Summer Surfing

The US is a pretty big place... I can tell you don't go to florida.

Just got back from surfing though. Might be able to ditch the boots next time here in NJ.

Why don't you ask a surfing forum? You'll get better answers on there than a bunch of skiers who have never stepped on a board

southern california, san diego beach side is great, but you gotta be careful about certain areas because the locals might get pissed. North shore on the big island of course. San fran has some pretty good surfing but it can get cold no matter what time of the year.

I don't really like surfing in LA though.

also its more fun to ride longboard down there for most of the time, at least during the summer.

If you find yourself in Oregon try your hand at the gauntlet. Go surf Indian beach at sunrise, head directly from there up to Timberline and get a full day in, then head back to Portland and skate Burnside park until sunset.

roddy116also its more fun to ride longboard down there for most of the time, at least during the summer.

nah op get a short, fat, super flat 4 fin fish tail.

don't come to orange county op, it sucks here

surfing sucks

roddy116but you gotta be careful about certain areas because the locals might get pissed.

this is what I hate about surfing. It's actually the most hostile sport on Earth. Even sitting out waiting for a wave with a few people and nobody wants to talk. They just sit there and ignore anyone who wants to make conversation. Then of course they are all the most secretive and bitchy about "their spot". It's even worse than people with secret powder stashes and powder can be skied out, waves can't be surfed out.

VinnieFthis is what I hate about surfing. It's actually the most hostile sport on Earth. Even sitting out waiting for a wave with a few people and nobody wants to talk. They just sit there and ignore anyone who wants to make conversation. Then of course they are all the most secretive and bitchy about "their spot". It's even worse than people with secret powder stashes and powder can be skied out, waves can't be surfed out.

that seems to be mainly in california though, when I'm in hawaii everyone is super chill and its like a huge party.

VinnieFthis is what I hate about surfing. It's actually the most hostile sport on Earth. Even sitting out waiting for a wave with a few people and nobody wants to talk. They just sit there and ignore anyone who wants to make conversation. Then of course they are all the most secretive and bitchy about "their spot". It's even worse than people with secret powder stashes and powder can be skied out, waves can't be surfed out.

It's mostly California that has localism. They just haven't grown out of it like the rest of the world has. In Australia, you can paddle out to any break and as long as you aren't being a fuck wit, the locals will accept you. The only time there's localism is in board riders battles, which is satirical at best. You just need to respect the line up, chuck a few yews and follow the surfers conduct.

Since that's gone up at beaches the line up has been pretty chilled, bar that one dude that is salty he never made it onto the QS

Is there even localism anymore, other than hawaii?

Not that NJ is known for surfing, but I see very little territorial behavior here. There's a couple salty old guys who complain that it's not like it used to be, I'm sure, but whatever. They're mad they can't catch any waves on their ten foot fun boards. I wouldn't let it spoil my session. If you're not being a complete noob than you should be fine. I think people confuse localism for people getting annoyed at noobs. We get pissed at people standing in landings or whatever. That's got nothing to do with localism.

Do they actually have signs in australia? Summers coming. I've had to push people out of waves I was already up on before I got dropped in on/run over. That's more for my protection from fins (kid was on a quad) than localism though. Signs to tell people not to drop in on you would be great. I'm surprised NJ doesn't have that. There's so many rules here. I've got my longboard ready for summer though.

In other news the wsl Fiji contest should run today, if that swell filters in. Supposed to be huge.

DrZoidbergIs there even localism anymore, other than hawaii?

Not that NJ is known for surfing, but I see very little territorial behavior here. There's a couple salty old guys who complain that it's not like it used to be, I'm sure, but whatever. They're mad they can't catch any waves on their ten foot fun boards. I wouldn't let it spoil my session. If you're not being a complete noob than you should be fine. I think people confuse localism for people getting annoyed at noobs. We get pissed at people standing in landings or whatever. That's got nothing to do with localism.

Do they actually have signs in australia? Summers coming. I've had to push people out of waves I was already up on before I got dropped in on/run over. That's more for my protection from fins (kid was on a quad) than localism though. Signs to tell people not to drop in on you would be great. I'm surprised NJ doesn't have that. There's so many rules here. I've got my longboard ready for summer though.

In other news the wsl Fiji contest should run today, if that swell filters in. Supposed to be huge.

Mainly just at tourist beaches. (manly, Bondi, Gold Coast)

VinnieFthis is what I hate about surfing. It's actually the most hostile sport on Earth. Even sitting out waiting for a wave with a few people and nobody wants to talk. They just sit there and ignore anyone who wants to make conversation. Then of course they are all the most secretive and bitchy about "their spot". It's even worse than people with secret powder stashes and powder can be skied out, waves can't be surfed out.

I disagree. The people who let anyone else surf their break without getting aggressive are unnecesary, but a healthy dose of localism and respect creates a better atmosphere. Think of all the the people that side jump in the park or blindly cut off people about to hit features. That type of shit is not tolerated in surfing and for good reason: it's dangerous and disrespectful.

bighomieflockI disagree. The people who let anyone else surf their break without getting aggressive are unnecesary, but a healthy dose of localism and respect creates a better atmosphere. Think of all the the people that side jump in the park or blindly cut off people about to hit features. That type of shit is not tolerated in surfing and for good reason: it's dangerous and disrespectful.

You're wrong. There's a difference between telling someone they're being dangerous and localism. Localism is telling someone they can't surf x break because they're not a local. People use to get their boards broke and tires slashed if they're not local.

S.J.WYou're wrong. There's a difference between telling someone they're being dangerous and localism. Localism is telling someone they can't surf x break because they're not a local. People use to get their boards broke and tires slashed if they're not local.

This is what I'm getting at, or was trying too. Watching out for your own safety and that of your board isn't localism.

I should be able to tell somebody they're being a noob/dangerous or being a dick. Like if some noob is ditching his ten foot longboard and it's taking out other guys (it's happened to me before) somebody should tell him to hold onto that thing. I was hit in the back, but if that thing hit me in the head I could have gone unconscious or needed quite few stitches. Even in small waves, most boards being pushed along in whitewash carry a lot of momentum, especially larger boards beginners are often on.

I know the majority of NS doesn't surf, but think about it. You're in the water. If somebody hurts you badly you have a problem. Fins are very sharp... You'd get mad if some gaper just plowed you because they suck or something. But you're on the snow. If you get knocked unconscious by a loose longboard the few seconds it might take for anybody to even notice that could be your last. Or their loose board caused severe damage to your board or some other part of your body.

Imagine if somebody ran over the tails of your skis and that tore an edge out, or cut your skis to the core then water got in and made them soggy. You'd be mad. That's what happens when noobs in the water do stupid stuff.

Localism is somebody saying that others have no right to surf in a spot because the local somehow owns it or has exclusive rights to it. Doesn't matter if the surfer in question is pro or a noob. The local doesn't want them out there. There was that instagram photo of somebody waxing kelly slater's car or whatever they did a while ago.

S.J.WYou're wrong. There's a difference between telling someone they're being dangerous and localism. Localism is telling someone they can't surf x break because they're not a local. People use to get their boards broke and tires slashed if they're not local.

I agree that form of localism is blatantly wrong, but that extreme treatment is pretty damn rare these days except for certain reefs in San Diego and maybe a couple other areas in california. Most "localism" that occurs these days is towards people who surf a break with no respect towards the locals and/ or who don't know what we're doing. Regardless of the definition of localism though surfing is pretty simple shit: respect the locals and don't drop in

bighomieflockI agree that form of localism is blatantly wrong, but that extreme treatment is pretty damn rare these days except for certain reefs in San Diego and maybe a couple other areas in california. Most "localism" that occurs these days is towards people who surf a break with no respect towards the locals and/ or who don't know what we're doing. Regardless of the definition of localism though surfing is pretty simple shit: respect the locals and don't drop in

If you drop in on anyone local or not you'll get called out. Every beach has that one surfer who is like "this is my break" but even the board riders laugh at him.

if you're not a dumbass in the water you won't get bitched out, and this is coming from someone who surfs in southern california pretty much every day

Santa Cruz locals, local harder haha.

Depends what you're into. There are a ton of consistent breaks. Some are more gnarly than other regarding conditions or locals.