Bernie Sanders will ruin America!!!!

onenerdykidWhile I agree the government also needs regulation (checks & balances, for example), it seems like you are saying that the businesses don't need regulation and as such aren't the problem but only the government. You seem to be shifting the blame away from the businesses and only putting it on the government, which is not fair nor accurate. They have continuously proven that their unchecked greed will lead to huge problems. Businesses have already proven they will not check themselves due to the needs of the market- they ignore the signs of the market and continue to dig themselves further into trouble. They undoubtedly need regulation.

Government can be greedy, just as the businesses can be greedy. And when either of them go unchecked and unregulated there will be huge problems.

He is probably saying their is collusion between the two... Which is why America plays world police to ensure that the economic interests of these huge corporations stay safe.

Going back to an isolationist foreign policy will absolutely cripple not only the American economy, but also the world's. Nuclear war would be less destructive.

onenerdykidWhile I agree the government also needs regulation (checks & balances, for example), it seems like you are saying that the businesses don't need regulation and as such aren't the problem but only the government. You seem to be shifting the blame away from the businesses and only putting it on the government, which is not fair nor accurate. They have continuously proven that their unchecked greed will lead to huge problems. Businesses have already proven they will not check themselves due to the needs of the market- they ignore the signs of the market and continue to dig themselves further into trouble. They undoubtedly need regulation.

Government can be greedy, just as the businesses can be greedy. And when either of them go unchecked and unregulated there will be huge problems.


Its like a circular argument. Corporation buys politician, politician passes corporate happy legislation, corporation buys conintues to take advantage of people/environment/economy, politician complains, corporation pays him off.

ThaLoraxonenerdykidWhile I agree the government also needs regulation (checks & balances, for example), it seems like you are saying that the businesses don't need regulation and as such aren't the problem but only the government. You seem to be shifting the blame away from the businesses and only putting it on the government, which is not fair nor accurate. They have continuously proven that their unchecked greed will lead to huge problems. Businesses have already proven they will not check themselves due to the needs of the market- they ignore the signs of the market and continue to dig themselves further into trouble. They undoubtedly need regulation.

Government can be greedy, just as the businesses can be greedy. And when either of them go unchecked and unregulated there will be huge problems.


Its like a circular argument. Corporation buys politician, politician passes corporate happy legislation, corporation buys conintues to take advantage of people/environment/economy, politician complains, corporation pays him off.

So campaign finance reform is at the root of all American problems?

californiagrownHe is probably saying their is collusion between the two... Which is why America plays world police to ensure that the economic interests of these huge corporations stay safe.

Going back to an isolationist foreign policy will absolutely cripple not only the American economy, but also the world's. Nuclear war would be less destructive.

What I am trying to break is the habit of thinking that the whole world will go to shit if America wasn't "policing" it. Show me sources that say otherwise. Because it can be shown that the anger against America is because we are intervening overseas in areas that we do not belong. And this is going unchecked because the government controls the news that gets back to us.

Again this all relates to the Bern man because he supports us staying overseas. And he supports more government involvement in our lives. The same government involvement that is the source of many of our problems.

onenerdykidWhile I agree the government also needs regulation (checks & balances, for example), it seems like you are saying that the businesses don't need regulation and as such aren't the problem but only the government. You seem to be shifting the blame away from the businesses and only putting it on the government, which is not fair nor accurate. They have continuously proven that their unchecked greed will lead to huge problems. Businesses have already proven they will not check themselves due to the needs of the market- they ignore the signs of the market and continue to dig themselves further into trouble. They undoubtedly need regulation.

Government can be greedy, just as the businesses can be greedy. And when either of them go unchecked and unregulated there will be huge problems.

I am focusing on the government because they are the ones that can use force to get what they want.

louie.miragsWhat I am trying to break is the habit of thinking that the whole world will go to shit if America wasn't "policing" it. Show me sources that say otherwise. Because it can be shown that the anger against America is because we are intervening overseas in areas that we do not belong. And this is going unchecked because the government controls the news that gets back to us.

Again this all relates to the Bern man because he supports us staying overseas. And he supports more government involvement in our lives. The same government involvement that is the source of many of our problems.

It's really pretty much common sense that the more shape other countries, the more we benefit. I also appreciate the humanitarian aspects of world policing. There are countless articles about why isolationism is bad policy... Here's one:



http://www.usip.org/publications/the-risks-isolationism

Oh damn im late to this train but bernie will ruin us. go trump. he has my vote

Oh damn im late to this train but bernie will ruin us. go trump. he has my vote

californiagrownIt's really pretty much common sense that the more shape other countries, the more we benefit. I also appreciate the humanitarian aspects of world policing. There are countless articles about why isolationism is bad policy... Here's one:



http://www.usip.org/publications/the-risks-isolationism

I want sources that prove this is true, " Likewise, if we want to remain secure at home we need to be engaged overseas. We need the help of 80 or 90 countries overseas to avoid the kind of terrorist attacks that we saw on 9/11. So the United States needs to continue to lead the world. No other country is in a position to do it."

We seem to be safe in America and the motives behind a lot of the terrorist action is our presence in their countries. No shit they are angry and want us dead, we travel 6000 miles to their backyard and try to tell them how to live their lives. I would be pissed too.

"humanitarian aspects of world policing"... Do you mean drone attacks based on meta data? Bombing whole wedding parties or hospitals? 100s of thousands dead? 100s of American soliders dead?
This is all common sense?

californiagrownSo campaign finance reform is at the root of all American problems?

No. Money does not judge what time of year it is. Politicians take bribe money any and all times of the year. Political coruption is ONE of the many roots of America's problems. Not all of them. I know you were being facetious though.

louie.miragsI want sources that prove this is true, " Likewise, if we want to remain secure at home we need to be engaged overseas. We need the help of 80 or 90 countries overseas to avoid the kind of terrorist attacks that we saw on 9/11. So the United States needs to continue to lead the world. No other country is in a position to do it."

We seem to be safe in America and the motives behind a lot of the terrorist action is our presence in their countries. No shit they are angry and want us dead, we travel 6000 miles to their backyard and try to tell them how to live their lives. I would be pissed too.

"humanitarian aspects of world policing"... Do you mean drone attacks based on meta data? Bombing whole wedding parties or hospitals? 100s of thousands dead? 100s of American soliders dead?
This is all common sense?

Are you really, really dumb and have no idea what I mean, or are you just looking for ways to argue? Fair question.

I chuckled.

ThaLoraxI chuckled.

This is so beautiful

californiagrownAre you really, really dumb and have no idea what I mean, or are you just looking for ways to argue? Fair question.

I provide sources, my opinions and opinions of scholars who have done research. And you have provided what you assume about terrorist. And you are asking if I am dumb just because you disagree? Instead of providing your own sources and reading material...

I already assumed you are arguing for the sake of it. Like you do in other threads. And then you assume that about me.. I wonder why? (you are projecting)

Granite_StateMy favorite part of this article:

"Republicans have unified control of 25 states. Along with the usual set of tax cuts for high-income individuals and business-friendly regulations, the result has been:

An unprecedented wave of restrictions on abortion rights

The spread of union-hostile "right to work" laws into the Great Lakes states

New curbs on voting rights, to further tilt the electorate in a richer, whiter, older direction

Large-scale layoffs of teachers and other public sector workers who are likely to support Democrats"

Ah, conservatives, you are so just. I want to help fuck the country up just like you!

All of those sound like great things, except for the curbs on abortion. I enjoy watching the democrats and their defense of the eugenics of Margaret Sanger, it's just further proves the absolute hypocrisy of the left. Plus the world doesn't need any more people.

"Right to work" being union-hostile? Don't make me laugh. It simply gives workers the option to join the union or not. Forcing people to join unions that steal money from them to donate to democrat politicians is wrong. No one should be forced to join a union against his or her will.

Curbs on voting rights? Such as the most basic requirement of providing an ID to prove the legal ability to vote? Again, don't make me laugh. This is by far the most sensible policy that only leftist activists oppose, especially when states provide a voter ID free of charge to those in financial difficulty.

Lay-offs of ineffective public workers is a benefit to all (except those being fired), since they are often simply leaches of taxpayer money contributed by the private sector. These policies help make the public sector more accountable and efficient.