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Tsarnaev Gets Death Penalty

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ANDR01D
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In light of this decision, I wanted to know NS's opinion on the death penalty. Do you think it is justice for those who deserve it? Do you oppose it for fear that innocents will die?

For those of you that would like to read the article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/16/us/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-death-sentence.html?_r=0

Personally, I'd have to say that I'm against it. Who are we to say who lives and who dies?
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May 15 2015 6:13PM
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JAHpow
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We should find out what his greatest fear is and let him die from that.
May 15 2015 6:21PM
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Funkadelic
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I'm opposed to the death penalty. But I think someone who commits as heinous an act as he did should be forced to spend the rest of his life alone, naked, and with absolutely nothing else in an empty cement room for the rest of his life with meals slid under the door 3 times a day and zero human contact ever. That's way worse than the death penalty.

I'm not saying everyone that murders should get that punishment. Just fucked up terrorist acts like this one.
May 15 2015 7:06PM
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Funkadelic
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FunkadelicI'm opposed to the death penalty. But I think someone who commits as heinous an act as he did should be forced to spend the rest of his life alone, naked, and with absolutely nothing else in an empty cement room for the rest of his life with meals slid under the door 3 times a day and zero human contact ever. That's way worse than the death penalty.

I'm not saying everyone that murders should get that punishment. Just fucked up terrorist acts like this one.


Actually rereading that that's fucked up idk. But there are worse things than death and I think he should get some punishment worse than death.
May 15 2015 7:08PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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FunkadelicActually rereading that that's fucked up idk. But there are worse things than death and I think he should get some punishment worse than death.


Yeah but then peoples taxes go to supporting that and I'd rather use my money for something better. Then again I bet injections are costly too.

Bullets are pretty cheap, no?
May 15 2015 7:44PM
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JAHpow
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a_pla5tic_bagYeah but then peoples taxes go to supporting that and I'd rather use my money for something better. Then again I bet injections are costly too.

Bullets are pretty cheap, no?


Way cheaper, that's why the firing squad is back on the drawing board for some states.
May 15 2015 7:54PM
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Casey
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When did we decide that life in a prison cell is not tough enough of a punishment? You could slowly rip him limb from limb and its not going to un-bomb the Boston marathon, so what's the point? To satisfy the evil instincts in all of us? I think it is a higher developed civilization that chooses not to practice state sponsored execution, especially with how many innocent black, poor, or mentally ill people that didn't get a fair defense that this country has executed I don' think its right to keep doing it.
May 15 2015 8:03PM
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theabortionator
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Honestly I don't give a fuck, and I've been on a binge of unfollowing people on facebook so I don't have a million posts about it.
May 15 2015 8:24PM
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Rusticles
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FunkadelicI'm opposed to the death penalty. But I think someone who commits as heinous an act as he did should be forced to spend the rest of his life alone, naked, and with absolutely nothing else in an empty cement room for the rest of his life with meals slid under the door 3 times a day and zero human contact ever. That's way worse than the death penalty.

I'm not saying everyone that murders should get that punishment. Just fucked up terrorist acts like this one.


FunkadelicActually rereading that that's fucked up idk. But there are worse things than death and I think he should get some punishment worse than death.


Nope, completely agree with the first statement, Would way rather see them locked up for eternity than getting the easy way out, kinda like the shithead castro that had all the girls locked in his basement.
May 15 2015 8:39PM
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S.J.W
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a_pla5tic_bagYeah but then peoples taxes go to supporting that and I'd rather use my money for something better. Then again I bet injections are costly too.

Bullets are pretty cheap, no?


JAHpowWay cheaper, that's why the firing squad is back on the drawing board for some states.


Life in prison is cheaper than the death penalty.
May 15 2015 8:43PM
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Nikolaus
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we kill people to punish them for killing people.
May 15 2015 8:43PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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S.J.WLife in prison is cheaper than the death penalty.

Reputable sources are fun.

A firing squads gotta be cheaper than both of those. What's also expensive is all the time with appeals too. So much money wasted on this.
May 15 2015 9:32PM
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S.J.W
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a_pla5tic_bagReputable sources are fun.

A firing squads gotta be cheaper than both of those. What's also expensive is all the time with appeals too. So much money wasted on this.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2014/05/01/considering-the-death-penalty-your-tax-dollars-at-work/

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

http://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=31614

http://deathpenalty.org/article.php?id=42
May 15 2015 9:42PM
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yungcigsmoker
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Violent convicts should become our slaves

Imagine how much energy we could produce if we used violent convicts as our source of power.

We could set up a massive gym in which you use an urg or something to produce electricity.
May 15 2015 9:53PM
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nochill
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I disagree with the death penalty so much. First we hold a trial talking about how horrible murder is and then we murder the person. Second it costs more than life in prison. Third is I'd rather die than be stuck in prison with psychopaths and killers. Fourth is did they ever think about the guy who has kill the person? Not many people can handle the guilt of killing someone even if they deserved. But idk that's just my take on it.
May 15 2015 10:13PM
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michiskier23
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the thing with killing him makes him a martyr. this situation is way bigger than just the idea of being pro or against the death penalty.
May 15 2015 10:15PM
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no_steeze
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I just don't see how killing people encourages other people not to kill people

He was a fucking high school kid who got caught up in shit that was way bigger than him, and while what he did was horrible and could never be justified, I think it's probably better for him to spend the rest of his life in prison thinking about his mistakes
May 15 2015 10:15PM
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las.
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NickyToorwe kill people to punish them for killing people.


"Killing is bad and forbidden, and to teach you that killing is bad, we're going to kill you".

The death penalty is an old-testament style, revenge-based practice that does not belong in modern, civilized society. It's immensely more expensive than keeping an inmate alive for life, too. Killing people for revenge will never accomplish anything.

Also, from The Onion: "Tsarnaev Death Penalty A Warning To Any Other Religious Fanatics Hoping To Be Martyred"
May 15 2015 10:19PM
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ANDR01D
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a_pla5tic_bagReputable sources are fun.

A firing squads gotta be cheaper than both of those. What's also expensive is all the time with appeals too. So much money wasted on this.


Yeah, god forbid that someone gets to appeal a death sentence.

read this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2015/03/17/most-death-penalty-sentences-are-overturned-heres-why-that-matters/

Basically, that article states that from 1973 to 2013, 8,466 death sentences were imposed. Of those, 3,194 were overturned on appeal, and in 890 of these, the conviction was overturned.

That's more than 10% that have had their conviction overturned. Granted most of these were probably back when DNA testing didn't exist (but who am I to speculate). Still, given that 10%, how can you be for the death sentence? And how can you call appeals a waste of money?
May 15 2015 10:50PM
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theBearJew
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Bullets are cheap.
May 15 2015 10:57PM
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.Hugo.
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tie a brick to their ankle and let em swim with the fishes
May 15 2015 10:58PM
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Dobber
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Should just use the firing squad and shoot him in the legs until he dies from blood loss.
May 16 2015 10:17AM
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Jaggy_Snake
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I don't agree. What he and his Brother done was awful, but sentencing him to death is extreme in comparison to what has happened in New York City this week: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-32757609 ...
May 16 2015 11:20AM
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SSteezle
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I'd rather him stay in an empty cell for the rest of his life with not a single person to talk to for the rest of his life. Either that or treat him like any other prisoner and put him on the yard and let him get his ass ripped apart by other prisoners
May 16 2015 11:50AM
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deleted5
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a_pla5tic_bagYeah but then peoples taxes go to supporting that and I'd rather use my money for something better. Then again I bet injections are costly too.

Bullets are pretty cheap, no?


the death penalty is actually going to cost more because it's going to take about 10 years petitioning it through a court. before the sentence is finalized I'm happy because it seems he wanted to live that was the entire case his lawyers made.
May 16 2015 3:40PM
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ANDR01D
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DobberShould just use the firing squad and shoot him in the legs until he dies from blood loss.


that's fucked up
May 16 2015 3:53PM
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SFB
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good, shoot him in the head and be done with it. we shouldnt be spending the money to keep him in a high secutiry isolation jail cell for the rest of his life.
May 17 2015 12:06AM
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000000000000
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It's easy to kill him to tie up loose ends...
May 17 2015 12:24AM
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shin-bang
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SFBgood, shoot him in the head and be done with it. we shouldnt be spending the money to keep him in a high secutiry isolation jail cell for the rest of his life.


This is true. The longer people stay in prison the more tax dollars we spend feeding and housing them. It all costs $$
May 17 2015 1:13AM
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dh1028
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I Havent signed in in years. watch this and educate yourselves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1air7b7AlAA
May 17 2015 1:20AM
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000000000000
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ArHansonI Havent signed in in years. watch this and educate yourselves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1air7b7AlAA


False flags do push power to martial law. Not advocating anything, however advising a weary eye to be kept on mass media.
May 17 2015 1:28AM
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las.
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.WashingtonThis is true. The longer people stay in prison the more tax dollars we spend feeding and housing them. It all costs $$


It's been said multiple times already, but it costs a great deal more to execute someone than it would to imprison them for life

Those who do support the death penalty - what is your reasoning?
May 17 2015 9:57AM
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S.J.W
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SFBgood, shoot him in the head and be done with it. we shouldnt be spending the money to keep him in a high secutiry isolation jail cell for the rest of his life.


.WashingtonThis is true. The longer people stay in prison the more tax dollars we spend feeding and housing them. It all costs $$


wow, you guys are so smart!
May 17 2015 12:07PM
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shin-bang
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lol arguing about it isnt going to do anything. the government will do what they want with him
May 17 2015 12:16PM
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Anathema
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I'm for the death penalty. I'm not for torture. You see all that crap on liveleak about dudes getting lynched and beaten by angry mobs.. that's really disturbing. Taking your own sick violent frustration out on someone doesn't make you any better. Maybe they do deserve to die, but not by being tortured to death. People who get enjoyment out of mashing and stomping a human body until it's pissing blood everywhere and totally lifeless are just as sick themselves.

If a human being has committed a totally inexcusable, heinous crime and is beyond any type of helping, sure, if you deem it is appropriate, kill them. But not by torture. Lights out, guy's gone, end of story. The act of torturing someone, to me, is completely despicable, mainly because it involves some sort of personal satisfaction to see something suffer. That isn't going to change what they did.
May 17 2015 12:19PM
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DubV134
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CaseyWhen did we decide that life in a prison cell is not tough enough of a punishment?


uhhhh.... you got that a bit backwards. correction
"when did we decide that killing criminals was too harsh of a punishment?"
the State has been killing those who break their laws since forever
May 17 2015 1:43PM
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DubV134
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NickyToorwe kill people to punish them for killing people.


we elect officials to make laws to govern our society for the best for all.

this motherfuck blew up random innocent kids, teens and adults. why? why sholdn't he be punished to the extent of the law? why should he be allowed to live?
May 17 2015 1:49PM
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SFB
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S.J.Wwow, you guys are so smart!

so are you!!! in theory it should be much cheaper to just shoot them and move on but for whatever reason due to the system its more expensivce.
May 17 2015 5:36PM
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SkiBum.
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For $.25 I could put one between his eyes and save the tax payers a lot of money. Stupid fucking terrorist monkey.
May 17 2015 6:38PM
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profa_212
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IMO...we should put the man in a secluded room with a pistol with on bullet. Tell him to end it himself or he can choose to live and be fed slop for the rest of his life wit no human interaction. That way if he does cap himself....there is no guilt left on any other person.
May 17 2015 7:29PM
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las.
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DubV134uhhhh.... you got that a bit backwards. correction
"when did we decide that killing criminals was too harsh of a punishment?"


When (most of) the world thought it's probably not a good idea to form criminal law around the old testament.
And it's not because it's too harsh - it's because it's revenge-based, and petty, and completely hypocritical.
May 17 2015 9:01PM
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level_juan
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SFBso are you!!! in theory it should be much cheaper to just shoot them and move on but for whatever reason due to the system its more expensivce.


Also only Oklahoma and Utah allow death by firing squad
May 18 2015 2:05AM
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averageMIskier
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Regardless of crime, death is never a deserving punishment, there is no lesson, there is no change.
May 18 2015 3:31AM
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nutz.
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graemeskiiiiiRegardless of crime, death is never a deserving punishment, there is no lesson, there is no change.


wellllll there's definitely a change
May 18 2015 3:37AM
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scratchproteen
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Eye for an eye.
May 18 2015 7:57AM
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Byron_tha_gr8
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scratchproteenEye for an eye.


keep saying it white people.
May 18 2015 8:24AM
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theBearJew
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Profahoben_212IMO...we should put the man in a secluded room with a pistol with on bullet. Tell him to end it himself or he can choose to live and be fed slop for the rest of his life wit no human interaction. That way if he does cap himself....there is no guilt left on any other person.



Put him in the room, but give him a bullet that is a dud. That way when he finally works up the courage to kill himself, he can't. Then just let him rot
May 18 2015 8:32AM
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Lonely
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I feel like the death penalty is only necessary in one case. Say a convict in prison for life for killing a family escapes and goes and kills more people, comes back for life again, escapes and kills more. Obviously that is an extreme case but if that convict is a danger to the public alive, he should be put to death.

Now someone like the boston bomber is different, he was pushed by his brother and groups to do what he did, and besides that event he has not gone on a continuous crime spree/attempted escape from prison. So keep him locked up in the superman to life, where he won't do anything else. Plus we wouldn't have to pay the fees for execution.
May 18 2015 9:32AM
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ANDR01D
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LonelySo keep him locked up in the superman to life


Immediately thought of this...
May 18 2015 10:16AM
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AidanCski
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Kill one person - life in prison
Kill 2 people - life in prison
Kill 3 people - life in prison.
Responsible for the death of 4 innocent people (including an 8 year old boy). Responsible for the death of an officer along with paralyzing and tearing the limbs off tens of people. Sparking terror throughout one of our great cities. Always putting the horrific thoughts in our mind when we watch the marathon. - Imo you deserve to die.
I am from the area of Boston. I know families who have been affected by this. He deserves to die.
Just my thoughts
May 18 2015 10:18AM
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Funkadelic
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For those saying the death penalty is revenge based... I don't care about revenge. I want a penalty that will potentially discourage other individuals from commuting similar heinous acts. IMO the death penalty alone doesn't do that. When the next idiot considers a terrorist act I want him to think "shit that other guy is rotting away in some kind of mental torture for the rest of his life."

Most of these people don't fear death. Make the penalty something they'd fear. I'm fully in favor of lifelong psychological, not physical, torture for these kinds of atrocities.
May 18 2015 10:45AM
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