There's a pair of L-Toros for $250 or the Bacons for $389.94. Just grew out of the Ar7s from 2012 and looking for new skis in the 172 range. Kinda liking the 'One Ski Quiver' idea because I ski at Mt. Bachelor Oregon and we get everything from powder to East-Cost Ice. Open to suggestions but kinda like these two the best.