eheathI mean, anyone would agree with me, snowboards CAN flip faster, its just true. They do triples on jumps that skiers can do them on, i.e. xgames a couple years ago. McMorris did trip on the last jump and skiers couldn't, they had the ability the jump just wasnt big enough.
Feel free to express your opinion, but its an objective matter, they can spin/flip faster.
idk man, im not saying youre wrong (about the flip part. i think skiers can objectively spin faster), but nothing you said is objective proof. just because snowboarders did it at an event that skiers didn't doesnt
prove anything
A-cAllIt's not that they can flip faster in the air, it's that they can initiate the flip much faster. If you carve really hard on your toe edge you can get 45 degrees of that first flip easily before you leave the ground. Skiers rely on setting their trick off of the pop, as opposed to setting and popping simultaneously.
Ps: I have no idea if that makes sense to anyone but me
i understand what youre saying but i don't see why it'd be something that skiers can't do (or as well). when i do underflips on tiny jumps i carve in and take off with my body pretty much vertical
fatbastardSeems to me that merely from the element of extra weight on a skier's feet (boots and skis vs. snowboard gear), you're going to make the flipping portion that much harder. Put weight on the end of anything and it takes more force to make it flip around. Couple that with the length of skis, and you're adding increased wind resistance that are also fighting the rotation. Try spinning/flipping on snowlerblades sometime. It's easy as hell. And when you get in the air, you feel like you're just a body flying. The less weight at the end of your body, the faster it rotates.
yeah, i definitely agree that skiers have more length and weight on their feet and setting it in motion takes more, plus air resistance is a factor (and snowblades, which ive used, are a great example).
but then i wonder, after 2 or 3 flips, isnt it possible that the extra weight ( => momentum) makes a positive difference? on a tiny jump, yeah SBers definitely can whip them around faster, but on a 80+ jump i have a hard time believing snowboarders have any objective, physical advantage (to the extent that it would make a difference on this jump)
