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DobberI've used Griffons for awhile. Can somebody tell me why they like fks better?
LittleGe0Yea, i also have been riding griffons for a long time, and when i do end up breaking a brake, its a cheap quick fix that you can do with some simple tools. Do the fks's really only bend
.complexMarker makes solid bindings as well, but if any marker bindings I'd reccommend the jesters.
TheJoshHenshawI personally won't buy markers again. If you land switch awkwardly, there's a really good chance your brakes are going to snap from the plastic binding. Happened to me and my buddies. I personally LOVE the fks and pivots because if you land switch awkwardly (which happens), the brake just bends. Thats because its ALL METAL, NOT PLASTIC. Takes 5 seconds on the hill to bend it back after you fall, aside from taking markers into the shop and getting replacement parts. METAL>PLASTIC
veng_mthe FKS has the highest elasticity length on the market.
last_tangoNot anymore. The axial 3 now has higher elasticity than the fks but they are only really available in a 12 din right now. They make a 15 but they only go on race plates.
The fks is still kickass binding. There is a reason why the pivot/nevada has looked pretty damn familiar looking for 40+years.
nutz.whoa that's very cool. I didn't know that.
I like fks's cause of the low profile mounting points though, the less parts touching the ski, the more feel of the ski you get
parkplaygrounddont believe that FKS are far superior in durablility terms, because I trashed mmy FKS's and they have maybe a season under them total. Ive broken 5 half moon pieces, which arent a huge problem, but its a pain when you swap them and the next day you break another one. ALso chipped a large chunk off the plastic baseplate on 2 pairs and cracked the metal stomp pad. On markers I dont see any of these problems with my friend who skis 2X harder than me and is much better.
shin-bangholy cow, how hard are you on your stuff? hahahahha but one thing i do for my fks is wrap pretty hefty layer of tape on the metal O that comes in contact with the plastic baseplate so its not as likely to crack with that little extra padding when stomping down.. like dis but slightly more tape.. lol just kind of thought of it on my own
parkplaygroundI broke that part but not on the place where the metal bar contacts it. It is a chunk of plastic missing from where the break arm sticks out all the way to the far end. Both heelpieces have it and I've only had it happen when I'm doing 4s on I guess I land weird or something
hughlorinI have FKS and Griffons on my skis, and I have to say they are both good bindings. I've had no problem with my griffons and they've always released when I needed them to. I hardly (if ever) prerelease with them. I don't know if I would recommend them to someone on the heavier side, though (I'm 140 lbs). if you're like 160+ you should probably go with jesters if you take the marker route.
I also really like the FKS. the all metal construction is kick ass, and the pivoting heel piece is great for a natural release. I've also noticed I feel much closer to the ski on my FKS. the design is much lower profile IMO, and it's nice to feel like your boot is directly on the ski. I have had one or two instances that my binding didn't release when I thought it should, but no serious damage occurred so maybe it knew better than I.
either way I don't honestly think you can go wrong with either. if you're buying new and money isn't an issue, maybe go with FKS. if you're trying to save a little, go with griffons or jesters. the markers will also be a bit lighter, but I never really notice a difference in weight. either way you won't pick a bad binding.
AbusedBananaI personally won't buy markers again. If you land switch awkwardly, there's a really good chance your brakes are going to snap from the plastic binding. Happened to me and my buddies. I personally LOVE the fks and pivots because if you land switch awkwardly (which happens), the brake just bends. Thats because its ALL METAL, NOT PLASTIC. Takes 5 seconds on the hill to bend it back after you fall, aside from taking markers into the shop and getting replacement parts. METAL>PLASTIC