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Park skiing without park boots a big deal?

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ArseneFox
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Went to a local ski store. He ordered the HEAD Cube 3 13 boots and began costumizing it to my feet, meanwhile a couple of costumizations has been done, like stretching the shell, adding implants on top of the liners, basicly making it fit wider and flatter. (I went there a couple of times alread.)

The first time I went there I asked for a shoe with a flex around 90, and the cube's got that, what is kind of parky. But it isnt classified as flex so thats a good thing. But it's not classified as a park boot and doesn't have all the other specific park boot features like shock absorbers. The question is, will it suck for me hitting the big kickers in these normal ski boots without shock absorbers, etc? Have you experienced park skiing in normal boots and park boots, and did it make a big difference for you? Did the guys in the early 2000 have park specific boots or did those pros also had to pull all those big airs with normal ski boots?

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Mar 26 2015 4:09AM
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steeze4days
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Buy the boots that fit, if they fit they will work the best for you in the park, park is all to do with the fit, and not a lot to do with the features, you'll be fine, enjoy your new boots!
Mar 26 2015 4:22AM
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BlackcountryBill
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Park boots are 90% a marketing gimmic, just get what fits best.
Mar 26 2015 8:28AM
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Craig114
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I agree with the first two posts. It is important to get a good boot that fits. It sounds like the flex is in a good range for you. You have the two most important areas covered. I also like how upright the forward lean is on a lot of park boots, but that is a personal thing and also something that you could probably adjust anyway. Enjoy your new boots!
Mar 26 2015 8:44AM
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Dobber
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My friends hate on me for not wearing full tilts, but I kill it in salomons. These fit perfect.

Do you think Glen Plake has ever worn full tilts? Because dropping cliff is a much bigger impact than man-made landings.

Mar 26 2015 8:54AM
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Dilch
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Unless you have a lot of money,don't go out buying 600 $ boots. especially if you are still growing. i would say by a liner that is soft that will help prevent shinbang.
Mar 26 2015 8:54AM
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Blake.P
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DobberDo you think Glen Plake has ever worn full tilts? Because dropping cliff is a much bigger impact than man-made landings.

I want you to think about what you just said...

Tons of freestyle skiers used the Raichle flexons (what full tilts used to be known by before they went under and were bought out/renamed) in the 80's, and swore by them. This includes glen plake and Seth Morrison (who actually would go to theift stores/ski swaps/etc when they were discontinued to get parts so he could make his remaining pairs last as long as possible). Plus Seth is still sponsored by full tilt, and to my knowledge plake still uses full tilts as well

DilchUnless you have a lot of money,don't go out buying 600 $ boots. especially if you are still growing. i would say by a liner that is soft that will help prevent shinbang.


Boots are the most important part of gear. Spend as much as you can then cut costs on skis. Seriously, if your boots suck you will always have issues and that's not fun. Fitted boots and good footbeds make a world of difference
Mar 26 2015 10:02AM
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OzzyJ
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I used racing boots up until this year. I never raced they were just cheap and I didn't know much about boots.
Mar 26 2015 10:18AM
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NMMedia
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I have friends that shred in race boots. Long as the boot fits well it doesnt really matter that much, they will work.
Mar 26 2015 10:29AM
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Caucasian_Asian
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Shock absorbers in boots are gimmicks. Your legs are shock absorbers.
Mar 26 2015 11:14AM
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senditsam
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It shouldn't be big deal.

For me comfort and confidence are what can help - at the moment I'm riding Vulcan TF's everywhere as they seem to have been made specifically for my feet (comfort) - and have been utterly Godzilla like when dropping BC and in pow (confidence) - I forced them into griffions on my park skis and have been so much better than the old Atomics I used to wear so they have become my all round booty.
Mar 26 2015 12:44PM
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Pipe_Munky
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Blake.Pd to my knowledge plake still uses full tilts as well


Glen Plake is a Dalbello team rider so no, he skis on Dalbello Kryptons and Sherpas
Mar 26 2015 12:56PM
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Lonely
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Boots are expensive. And just like skis you need the ski that fits you not the one that is discipline specific. I have friends who kill it in rails without twin tips or on things like hellbents. They don't need to buy filthy riches to be good. Use what is comfortable for you and what will work. Don't go buy full tilts just cuz your park skiing...unless they're comfortable and work then go for it. Whatever fits your needs is what's best.
Mar 26 2015 1:05PM
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Dilch
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OzzyJI used racing boots up until this year. I never raced they were just cheap and I didn't know much about boots.


you can get good comfortable boots for a good price. I'm just saying why buy a pair that is 600 when you could get a very similar in comfort pair for 300. i bout a pair of used boot for 50$ at the beginning of this season and they are the best boots I've eve had.
Mar 26 2015 3:52PM
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OregonDead
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Your boots are parky enough. If they fit then go skiing. One pair of boots is fine for all of your costumes.
Mar 26 2015 3:58PM
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Jpurd
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I ski and coach freeride skiing 42 days and year and I have been skiing park for 10 years. I Salomon racing boots. I hate park boots.
Mar 26 2015 4:14PM
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olyn
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A park specific boot is a marketing ploy for companies to sell there boots for more money, you will ski way better in a boot that fits with a custom foot bed vs a boot that doesn't fit that smashes your feet, ankles and shins to pieces even though it has all the features.
Mar 29 2015 4:43AM
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Negromancer
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Pick a good fitting race or all mountain boot over a poor fitting park boot.

I park and freeride in Lange RS130's which are race boots and have no problems because they fit.
Mar 29 2015 5:01AM
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onenerdykid
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Could a park boot be the right boot for you? Sure. It just depends on if it is the right fit, flex, and geometry for you. And as others here have already mentioned, pick the best boot for you regardless of its marketed purpose. Quite often the best boot is a race or all mountain boot.
Case in point, check out Keefer (wearing a Hawx 2.0 110) and Jossi (wearing a Redster Pro 130):



Two of the most stylish skiers in the game not wearing park boots. These boots fit them the best, so that's why they wear them.
Mar 29 2015 5:29AM
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BlackcountryBill
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SnowzillaIt shouldn't be big deal.

For me comfort and confidence are what can help - at the moment I'm riding Vulcan TF's everywhere as they seem to have been made specifically for my feet (comfort) - and have been utterly Godzilla like when dropping BC and in pow (confidence) - I forced them into griffions on my park skis and have been so much better than the old Atomics I used to wear so they have become my all round booty.


No, have you any idea how stupid forcing an AT boot into an alpine binding is? You loose any semblance of DIN certified release. Alpine bindings just aren't desinged to work with at soles. If you want to ride Vulcans in normal blindings, get wardens, or a binding designed to work with AT soles.

Think about your own safety bro.
Mar 29 2015 2:16PM
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senditsam
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BlackcountryBillNo, have you any idea how stupid forcing an AT boot into an alpine binding is? You loose any semblance of DIN certified release. Alpine bindings just aren't desinged to work with at soles. If you want to ride Vulcans in normal blindings, get wardens, or a binding designed to work with AT soles.

Think about your own safety bro.



For sure, it was just the once to see how they felt anyway.
Mar 29 2015 3:28PM
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Craig114
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Blake.PSeriously, if your boots suck you will always have issues and that's not fun. Fitted boots and good footbeds make a world of difference


I spent a few seasons skiing on boots that didn't fit well, it sucked. Really can ruin a good day.
Mar 31 2015 10:08AM
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Mr.softcookie
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If the boot fits and is comfortable then i guess it would be fine
Apr 2 2015 4:58PM
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