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Pass Pulled for 2 Weeks

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Wild-Willis
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Some nice ski patrol over at Beaver Creek pulled my pass for doing a tiny ass 3 over a knoll. The guy was a real douche about it too, trying to come up with every single possible bad outcome that could happen from doing a "twirly," he called them. Anyways, going in to appeal this bullshit tomorrow.

Anyone been in a similar situation? Any suggestions on appealing a suspended pass?

**This thread was edited on Feb 15th 2015 at 1:32:53am
Feb 14 2015 10:26PM
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shin-bang
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dang dude, should have twirlied right into his face and then ski off. but seriously that sucks and its not like you hurt anyone right? or did you destroy some child
Feb 14 2015 10:34PM
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ChillTeenDad420
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you probably did some other shit too
Feb 14 2015 10:47PM
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californiagrown
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how crowded was the run? how blind was your landing? how fast were you going? how sketchy was your 3? how big did you go?
Feb 14 2015 10:53PM
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.lencon
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What type of snow? Weather? Time of day? Day of the week? Outerwear? Skis? Poles(if any)?
Feb 14 2015 10:58PM
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casual
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Why would a patroller pull your pass for doing a 3? Was it like mountain safety or something? I've never seen a patroller do anything other than pole clap, whoop it up, or maybe try and do a bigger and better 3.
Feb 14 2015 11:03PM
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bnewbs6
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Yeah there is a lot to this story you aren't telling us
Feb 14 2015 11:20PM
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veng_m
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let er' loose, OP
Feb 14 2015 11:37PM
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Fluffysnowkitty
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Thats how all VailResorts places are run, they have a new mountain ops
corporate team and theire really pushing safety this season. It sucks, you just gotta stay away from the slow zones
Feb 14 2015 11:56PM
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Z-Juice
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I got a warning a couple weeks back at Vail. Long story short, I was going pretty fast and the guy had a reason to stop me. He said my speed alone wasn't the issue, it was that it was a slow zone. I pointed out There were zero slow signs until immediately before the lift maze, he said I should know where slow zones are (it's not in the Skier Responsibility Code if you want to get technical). I'll let you guys decide if that's fair.

Anyways he told me another warning and I get my pass pulled for two weeks, so I'm assuming you got one of these warnings. I certainly thought an official warning was extreme in my case, so I don't doubt that you did as little as pop a 3 to get a "violation" as well. But I think there is pretty much no chance he skipped the warning and suspended your pass for two weeks, so I think you received a warning and should have been on your guard for yellow jackets.
Feb 15 2015 12:09AM
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Wild-Willis
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Well I did have a warning on my pass, and he gave me another so it's a two week suspension. Nobody on the run, 3 was stomped. Even banged it out to the bottom of the mountain.
Feb 15 2015 12:31AM
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Wild-Willis
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This guy was skier safety, not a yellow jacket. Didn't know they had that authority.
Feb 15 2015 12:32AM
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shin-bang
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Wild-WillisWell I did have a warning on my pass, and he gave me another so it's a two week suspension. Nobody on the run, 3 was stomped. Even banged it out to the bottom of the mountain.


nobody on the run????? wow lol and k+ for banging that all the way to the bottom. #legend
Feb 15 2015 12:36AM
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Dobber
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Twirly. Somebody has to develop a trick that fits this name.
Feb 15 2015 7:25AM
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Static
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Try to find some yellow jacket snowboarders without leashes and confiscate their shit.
Feb 15 2015 8:11AM
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yungcigsmoker
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Solution: Don't ski at Vail resortd.
Feb 15 2015 8:15AM
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assface
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that's what you would expect at beaver creek. Deer valley next?
Feb 15 2015 8:41AM
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alpinesjl
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I've been skiing in Beaver Creek since I was born and I'm 16 now and I've had my pass suspended once and almost a second time. The first was for skiing along a boundary line that I probably crossed at one point and the second that I almost got it take for was flying though a slowzone and jumped off an edge where there was a no jumping sign.
Feb 15 2015 9:29AM
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CaptTurner
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Im starting to like the East coast a lot more, Ive bombed through slow areas before by ski patrol or ambassadors and have only got a wave to slow down, I don't think I've ever seen a pass pulled
Feb 15 2015 10:49AM
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freestyler540
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CaptTurnerIm starting to like the East coast a lot more, Ive bombed through slow areas before by ski patrol or ambassadors and have only got a wave to slow down, I don't think I've ever seen a pass pulled

Hasnt anyone read the Skier's code of Disconduct? 9. Evade patrol at all costs
Feb 15 2015 10:55AM
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Peachbutt
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CaptTurnerIm starting to like the East coast a lot more, Ive bombed through slow areas before by ski patrol or ambassadors and have only got a wave to slow down, I don't think I've ever seen a pass pulled


At my mountain I've never even treated a slow zone differently than any other area. No matter how crowded the slope is I'll be bombing the run switch and I've never gotten more than being told to turn around
Feb 15 2015 11:31AM
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Steezy_G
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CaptTurnerIm starting to like the East coast a lot more, Ive bombed through slow areas before by ski patrol or ambassadors and have only got a wave to slow down, I don't think I've ever seen a pass pulled


at whiteface they pull peoples passes all the time
Feb 15 2015 12:02PM
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plyswthsqrrls
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in ontario they take not giving a fuck to another level I guess, only time I've ever seen passes pulled is for people poaching closed runs on a pow day right in front of the lift. patrol was more pissed about having to actually do something I think
Feb 15 2015 1:26PM
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veng_m
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Behold.
Feb 15 2015 1:48PM
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veng_m
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veng_m


Behold.

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http://www.befunky.com/explore/gallery/9292429/
Feb 15 2015 1:49PM
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dsondrup
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Move to Alta. Patrollers have helped us build jumps before
Feb 15 2015 2:21PM
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FreeVillain
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Got mine pulled for two weeks for skiing down the race coarse during a practice and yelling shit at the racers.
Feb 15 2015 5:55PM
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Dobber
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FreeVillainGot mine pulled for two weeks for skiing down the race coarse during a practice and yelling shit at the racers.

No shit??
Feb 15 2015 7:20PM
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profa_212
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FreeVillainGot mine pulled for two weeks for skiing down the race coarse during a practice and yelling shit at the racers.


You sound like an ass.
Feb 16 2015 12:06AM
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dingus
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I was burning a corpse and the patrol yanked my pass I don't understand their logic, I feel ya man.
Feb 16 2015 12:10AM
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rememberscott
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I had a similar run in at Beaver Creek as well a couple of years back. The safety guys in yellow jackets spotted my buddy and I air out on a roller on a fairly steep groomer run. We skiied right up to one of them that flagged us down and he seemed pretty and pissed. He took our passes and once he saw mine was an employee pass he just let us go with a warning. Luckily he was a cool guy but with Vail resorts you have to watch out for the family/slow zones or else they will fuck you and in some instances make you take classes to get your pass back.

Also/Side note there can always be a possibility of a little kid underneath the roller so always be aware especially on weekends.
Feb 16 2015 12:22AM
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roddy116
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I jumped over a fence today at big sky. I got a big thumbs up from some old ski patrol dude.
Feb 16 2015 12:22AM
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Plankton
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FreeVillainGot mine pulled for two weeks for skiing down the race coarse during a practice and yelling shit at the racers.


the race course was coarse in texture? you sound like a funny guy
Feb 16 2015 1:31AM
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Kakdeg
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wow this is crazy, in Europe and Sweden where I live patrol is cool with almost everything.
Just yesterday we hooked on to the lift about 3/4 of the way up to be able to lap a powder jump, one of the bosses of patrol came up and said sick jump and asked if we were doing good.
Always spraying the slow signs and always doing twirlys over knolls.

People in the US sound so unfriendly?
Feb 16 2015 2:54AM
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Static
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KakdegPeople in the US sound so unfriendly?


Rich dick heads and their familes on ski vacations. They're usually determined to ruin their expensive vacation by bitching about any and everything. Lifts were too slow, the rental attendant gave me red boots. Unfortunately "people skiing too fast" is a common complaint.

The extra step Vail resorts take is to profile season pass holders, there is literally zero incentive for them to allow you to ski. They already have all the money you're gonna spend, you arn't buying lunch, you arn't paying for parking, you arn't paying for lodging. It's in their financial interests to send you home, keep you off the snow, keep you from using their facilities.
Feb 16 2015 5:05AM
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FreeVillain
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Profahoben_212You sound like an ass.


I am an ass. Fuck you
Feb 16 2015 11:41AM
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powerbong2000
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kakdeg, europe isn't all ruined by liability litigation. Safety isn't such a fake big deal there.
Feb 16 2015 1:05PM
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veng_m
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FreeVillainI am an ass. Fuck you


alias?
Feb 16 2015 1:56PM
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notjason
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For the future my advice to you when waved down by a ski patroller is to simply pretend that you did not see them or hear them. When I'm skiing any of the vail resorts I know they give out warnings and tickets in slow zones so as soon as I see one I start making turns again and keep skiing down the mountain, not stopping at the lift. If the patroller actually engages in a high speed chase with you, you won't be the only one getting in trouble, and you can always say you had no idea they were following you. Many times patrollers have started to follow me, and then stop as soon as I pass the lift. Don't try this at base areas though, unless they are really busy and you're in an outfit that blends in pretty well.
Feb 16 2015 3:54PM
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galardogod
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After seeing man almost die at Sunday River when he was struck in the head by a knee of a skier who aired off a roller. I can say I do understand their reasoning in not wanting people to air rollers. However it could be handled differently. My idea is a sign that makes skiers aware of a blind drop.
Feb 16 2015 7:54PM
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YoungJ
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This is why i like skiing at a small mountain. I can just say im terrain park manager and head freestyle coach and it really shuts them up. im scared for when i go out to Utah and get my pass pulled for riding just like do here
Feb 17 2015 12:13AM
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bighomieflock
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I've never been fully stopped at vail resorts by safety patrol...probably because I pretend to not see them while they yell at me
Feb 17 2015 12:32AM
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S.J.W
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I feel like people who get their passes pulled then complain about aren't usual telling the full story. Like they're not telling us that they were a cunt to the person who stopped them. I've had yellow jackets in whistler tell me off for doing butters and 3s off shit in slow zones. I just apologise and move on. I've had them tell me I was going too fast and tell me to slow it down. So I do as they say. I've even skied switch into the lift line and the dude in the yellow jacket was like don't do that or I'll take your pass. I just smiled at him and said won't happen again.

A lot of what causes someone to take your pass is how you present yourself. Don't be a dick and you'll be fine. Shrink your ego and just do what they say and you'll be fine
Feb 17 2015 12:34AM
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Static
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UglyboyI feel like people who get their passes pulled then complain about aren't usual telling the full story. Like they're not telling us that they were a cunt to the person who stopped them. I've had yellow jackets in whistler tell me off for doing butters and 3s off shit in slow zones. I just apologise and move on. I've had them tell me I was going too fast and tell me to slow it down. So I do as they say. I've even skied switch into the lift line and the dude in the yellow jacket was like don't do that or I'll take your pass. I just smiled at him and said won't happen again.

A lot of what causes someone to take your pass is how you present yourself. Don't be a dick and you'll be fine. Shrink your ego and just do what they say and you'll be fine


No, it really is bad at the Vail resorts. You can be skiing by at a regular pace on an empty run and they will hassle you if you don't look like a gaper.

Victim blaming when someone's prohibited from skiing is pretty shitty, as someone who's had their pass pulled for no reason: Fuck you and your assumptions.
Feb 17 2015 1:38AM
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exile_ch
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ahhh America & their 'freedom' ...
Feb 17 2015 2:54AM
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pow_pow~
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ive literally never had a bad experience with patrollers, they always pole clap and get stoked if you hit a natural feature and sometimes try to out do you. they started where you are, season pass holders, and most of them grew up skiing.

yellow jackets and safety are a different story.
Feb 17 2015 5:08AM
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Monsieur_Patate
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I'm always surprised by those pass pulled stories. I don't think anyone has ever had their pass pulled in Europe for that, at least I don't know of anyone who has ever been bothered by patrol for that kind of thing, speeding or whatever. Those stories seem pretty unreal to me.

I guess north american resorts have to protect their interest because of the suing mentality, but I wouldn't like feeling like I'm not free to shred my home mountain as hard as I want.
Feb 17 2015 7:03AM
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Rparr
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Vail yellowcoats are unlike anything else in the ski world. I was just as doubtful as most of you until I went to a vail resort for the first time quite a while ago. Those guys are fucking dicks.
Feb 17 2015 8:07AM
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steezburgereddie
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galardogodAfter seeing man almost die at Sunday River when he was struck in the head by a knee of a skier who aired off a roller. I can say I do understand their reasoning in not wanting people to air rollers. However it could be handled differently. My idea is a sign that makes skiers aware of a blind drop.


Thats why you dont sit in the blind spots after rollers.
Feb 17 2015 10:42AM
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SteezOnSkis12
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dingusI was burning a corpse and the patrol yanked my pass I don't understand their logic, I feel ya man.


Dude same thing happened to meeee

galardogodAfter seeing man almost die at Sunday River when he was struck in the head by a knee of a skier who aired off a roller. I can say I do understand their reasoning in not wanting people to air rollers. However it could be handled differently. My idea is a sign that makes skiers aware of a blind drop.


I saw that happen ouch
Feb 17 2015 10:51AM
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