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Sticky Bases? help!

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kyleisaskier
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Hello NS,
I don't normally post on here, but the past few days have made me rethink things a bit.

On Wednesday, I finally ripped the edges out of my beloved nordicas. I thought I was done for the season but then I remembered I still had enough money saved up for a new pair of skis. I ended up buying the 2015 A-bangs from my local shop in a 166cm. Super stoked on em despite the bad buzz surrounding the Afterbangs, I had em mounted up and even hot waxed cause what the heck that factory wax isn't gonna do shit anyways.

I picked em up Friday afternoon and they felt awesome. Took em out to my local hill and skied the best 2 hours of my life, they're amazing skis with a ton of pop, and they lock on to rails perfectly.
then shit hit the fan. I started to notice a weird sound when I picked up speed, high-pitched like the friction caused when you put your fingers on a moving treadmill or rub waterproof outerwear fabric together. Then they began to stick. regardless of the extremely fast icy conditions, when I dropped into the park, I heard the noise (nnneeeeeaaaaarroowwwwww) and I slowed almost to a stop. I even tried to hit a flat bar a couple more times which was a terrible idea because the bases stuck to it like glue. It seemed like the more I skied, the worse it got.

Disappointed, I left and researched my problem, and after base inspection a found dry/sticky spots in various locations/pressure points, mainly under the boot. Determined to fix this predicament, I woke up early Saturday morning and spent 3 hours hot-scraping/waxing them 4 times. It seemed like I had it down, but when I took them out that day my 4 coats of wax lasted a couple runs until the sticky was back, fiercer than before. I tried to drop a tranny off the side of a knuckle and as I skied down the side they gripped the snow so hard that it sent me flying forward, ejected, onto my face. The bases even had what I thought was base burn, but felt more like a thin film. I'm so clueless I have no idea what is going on. Today, I researched for hours and found absolutely nothing, I messaged and called line but this isn't a business day for them. I took them to my shop and they recommended I wax them again. AM I CRAZY? is it possible that they're defective? Maybe someone at line forgot to structure the bases on mine, leading them to not hold a wax?

I'm really in need of some help, I'm super grateful of any and all input!
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Feb 8 2015 10:44PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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where do you ski? is it on a lot of fake snow? Those bases are extruded, not sintered. I have extruded bases and sometimes when the snow is fake or just sometimes, I hit spots and suddenly decelerate a lot. I almost flipped forward because of it once.
Feb 8 2015 11:00PM
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kyleisaskier
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a_pla5tic_bagwhere do you ski? is it on a lot of fake snow? Those bases are extruded, not sintered. I have extruded bases and sometimes when the snow is fake or just sometimes, I hit spots and suddenly decelerate a lot. I almost flipped forward because of it once.


Yeah I ski in Missouri so it's a ton of fake snow. It's just so bad that I cant even hit anything though, I was kinda thinking about getting a base grind, maybe that would help. And it's literally the bases that are sticking, especially cause I won't even slide on rails.
Feb 8 2015 11:16PM
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japanada
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cheap bases will do that and the fact that you are on man made snow doesnt help your cause. You are on the right track tho, a nice heavy and deep stone grind could help dramatically open up the pores on the base and encourage them to hold onto that wax a little bit better. Also try using a temperature specific wax too, works wonders compared to the all temp crap.
Feb 9 2015 12:18AM
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mattridesskis
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Get some structure in your bases!
Go to your shop and ask for a stone grind. If they are properly set up they should be able to do this.
Stone grinding structure into your base will help the skis glide better in almost any conditions by allowing the water(snow) to travel through the little channels in the structure.
Hope this helps!
Feb 9 2015 12:19AM
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edi.dalazi
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damn that sucks man but I think it's something wrong on lines part especially cuz you said you waxed them 4 times and it still was bad. it could have been that the place you got them hot waxed at first did something wrong like burned your bases. contact line and see what they say. try to get them inspected but line or some reliable guy and see what they say
Feb 9 2015 12:23AM
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NMMedia
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I can say im fairly certain its your base structure. If they arent structured right they literally suction to the snow. I ride man made snow everyday and even when Im lazy and dont wax my skis for too long I dont get stuck like this, so I doubt it is your waxing
Feb 9 2015 10:40AM
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