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Everyone loves Star Wars, and if you don't you're lying.
We're about a year out, perfect time for conspiracies
This is the place for Star Wars VII news and speculation.
I'll start.
Granite_StateIf it doesn't follow the EU canon and creates a new story line, does that mean they will eventually change the canon to fit the new story line?
The canon is defined as the 6 movies so far, that are immovable objects in which the rest of it must revolve around. The 7th movie will be added officially to part of the canon. Anything else is non-canon. If you are asking if new EU games and stories will be written to fit with the 7th movie too I would say yes.
I am completely OK with the EU being non cannon and referred to as "legends"
I'd rather watch stories concieved by JJ, Disney, and Georgey boy than read about what "should have happened" based on Tubby McFatfat that lives in his parents basement and works at Taco Bell.
The obvious answer is because a lightsaber hilt isn't lightsaber proof.
I am definitely not saying it's a good idea, I think it was designed specifically to sell toys, and to have a new gimmicky lightsaber for people to ogle and associate with the new movie. Same ploy as Darth Maul's saber, pure gimmickry that was dreamt up to sell toys, and to have a "new" and distinctive look for the movie.
I'm not on board with that particular little detail, but it isn't some big deal to me or anything.
casualThe obvious answer is because a lightsaber hilt isn't lightsaber proof.
I am definitely not saying it's a good idea, I think it was designed specifically to sell toys, and to have a new gimmicky lightsaber for people to ogle and associate with the new movie. Same ploy as Darth Maul's saber, pure gimmickry that was dreamt up to sell toys, and to have a "new" and distinctive look for the movie.
I'm not on board with that particular little detail, but it isn't some big deal to me or anything.
casualThe obvious answer is because a lightsaber hilt isn't lightsaber proof.
I am definitely not saying it's a good idea, I think it was designed specifically to sell toys, and to have a new gimmicky lightsaber for people to ogle and associate with the new movie. Same ploy as Darth Maul's saber, pure gimmickry that was dreamt up to sell toys, and to have a "new" and distinctive look for the movie.
I'm not on board with that particular little detail, but it isn't some big deal to me or anything.
[tk]The canon is defined as the 6 movies so far, that are immovable objects in which the rest of it must revolve around. The 7th movie will be added officially to part of the canon. Anything else is non-canon. If you are asking if new EU games and stories will be written to fit with the 7th movie too I would say yes.
ButteryLlamaWhy the hell couldnt they have made the cross piece metal like the rest of the handle rather than attach two baby light sabers??
It would be way more chunky and awkward to carry around for sure. And like casual stated it's not lightsaber proof. Some say it could be cortorsis though which temporary disables lightsabers. Or, the stream from the crystal is in the main handle and it's just traveling through the side shafts, so it would still protect your hands. I think it's some ghetto ass jerry-rigged saber and they are exhaust ports that still protect you. Some longsword shit sounds dope.
casualThe obvious answer is because a lightsaber hilt isn't lightsaber proof.
I am definitely not saying it's a good idea, I think it was designed specifically to sell toys, and to have a new gimmicky lightsaber for people to ogle and associate with the new movie. Same ploy as Darth Maul's saber, pure gimmickry that was dreamt up to sell toys, and to have a "new" and distinctive look for the movie.
I'm not on board with that particular little detail, but it isn't some big deal to me or anything.
[tk]The canon is defined as the 6 movies so far, that are immovable objects in which the rest of it must revolve around. The 7th movie will be added officially to part of the canon. Anything else is non-canon. If you are asking if new EU games and stories will be written to fit with the 7th movie too I would say yes.
the 3d clone wars and the new show rebels are also canon
When I first saw the trailer I thought it was fake or a spoof. I don't know if that's good or bad for the movie. Those first 30 seconds or whatever.
And the new light saber looks goofy to me. I don't like that the shaft of light isn't as solid anymore and the cross guard seems odd. Hope there's still crazy twirly action fights with the sabers.
Other than that it got me stoked. That x wing shot. $$$
why would they have light sabers any way. i mean, you control the force and have the technology to build lasers that cut through anything.
why not just throw laser boomerangs or smaller laser ninja stars at people and control them with the force? why do you even have to engage in hand to hand combat at all?
Anathemawhy would they have light sabers any way. i mean, you control the force and have the technology to build lasers that cut through anything.
why not just throw laser boomerangs or smaller laser ninja stars at people and control them with the force? why do you even have to engage in hand to hand combat at all?
There's a lot of controlling the sabers via the force, throwing them long distances, directing them, and them boomeranging back throughout the EU.
Not in the movies (thus far) probably more due to CGI and special effects limitations than anything. I bet we will see a fight in this trilogy like you're talking about.
Also, the force is like anything else, meaning it's on an spectrum, not black and white. Just because a jedi or paduwan can say deflect a blaster shot, possibly while blindfolded, that doesn't mean he or she can than sit in a recliner and will his lightsaber around deftly enough to win a fight. It's a muscle. In the canonical material, there's only been a few dozen jedis that we've met, and maybe 3-4 who are considered to be truly powerful (and those that are revered all have the power to kill, maim, whatever without hand to hand combat ex. palpatine, vader, yoda, luke later, whoever else). The original trilogy makes reference to extraordinary jedis with great power and abilities, and we gotta remember that Luke is a complete novice, not indicative of the "ceiling". Obi wan is an old man, clearly not practiced, yet he still relies on the force 10x more than his saber. Vader force chokes everyone, and saves his saber for other jedis. We've seen people guide proton torpedoes, lift several tons of machinery, and on and on. Plus, Jedi culture is obviously heavily influenced by samurai lure and tradition. The force and jedis are even quasi religious I think, and there's something ritualistic, pure, and also respectful about saber combat.
I don't know...I don't think much fiction (let alone sci fi conceived in the 70s) stands up to this much logical scrutiny to be honest. The answer to your question is because dueling and sword play are culturally revered and romanticized and it's personal. It works for films, and it works dramatically and it straight up just looks COOL. I feel like this is a film series that you have to be willing to suspend disbelief on some level. I don't have the same logic and continuity expectations for a starwars movie that I do for a political drama or something.
If these films pull at the right heart strings, have amazing set pieces, the score and sound design is great, and give us a few iconic images and lines, I'm going to be fucking pumped, damn the rest.
So ive read that tall women knight from game of thrones is most likely going to be a sith inquistor as well as the fact that they are building all new set pieces instead of relying solely on cgi like the perquels. Stoke is high
Granite_StateSo ive read that tall women knight from game of thrones is most likely going to be a sith inquistor as well as the fact that they are building all new set pieces instead of relying solely on cgi like the perquels. Stoke is high
Looks like a healthy blend of both. Stoked. I always try to keep my hopes down for movies that get me pumped up like this so I won't be disappointed. I just can't for this one though its gonna be tooo sick.
[tk]Looks like a healthy blend of both. Stoked. I always try to keep my hopes down for movies that get me pumped up like this so I won't be disappointed. I just can't for this one though its gonna be tooo sick.
I have high hopes because I LOVE Lawrence Kasdan, he wrote for The Empire Strikes Back and The Return of the Jedi. (and my fav movie ever, Raiders of the Lost Ark!!!!) Set wise, I'm def glad they realized their mistakes in using mainly CGI sets. This is gonna be such a sick film.
onenerdykidbut wasn't Luke's hand severed by an upswinging blow and not as a result of Darth's saber sliding downward?
Yep this is my thought on it exactly. A light saber isn't a metal blade that can slide when it makes contact with another blade. Notice how in the duels they lock sabers then disengage and then chop the hand off. They don't slide downwards and chop off their hand. So once again the saber still looks goofy Goku or whoever posted that.
Fuck machete order, just ignore the second trilogy about which we do not speak. Even though I have now talked about that of whom we do not speak, breaking the rule of speaking of that about which we do not talk.
omnidataFuck machete order, just ignore the second trilogy about which we do not speak. Even though I have now talked about that of whom we do not speak, breaking the rule of speaking of that about which we do not talk.
omnidataFuck machete order, just ignore the second trilogy about which we do not speak. Even though I have now talked about that of whom we do not speak, breaking the rule of speaking of that about which we do not talk.
Na IMO the first one is unspeakable. Second two are obvi not on the same level, but I thought the third one was dope.
Some potentially major details about the plot and characters have made their way online. Some are familiar but there are some new ones. While they don't give away the end of the movie, they do deal with some potentially key moments in the film. The rumors were posted by Galactic News One, who heard all this from one of their sources. If you are trying to avoid all spoilers for The Force Awakens, I strongly advise you to stop reading now. This is your official SPOILER ALERT!
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Here's what Galactic News One has to say about the plot of The Force Awakens,
"The film is dystopian and darker than Empire. Some 30-40 years have passed since Return of the Jedi, and the Empire and New Republic have been locked in a war of attrition. Everyone is languishing and sick of the war. The script, which is described as "too good for JJ Abrams", begins in space, above a desert planet -- presumably Tatooine.
The opening crawl details the ongoing turmoil in the galaxy. How the fall of the Emperor left a void of power, and how the heroes of Endor went into seclusion or kept fighting.
The current state of the war is described as being similar to the European theater of 1944, with the Empire being Germany and the Republic being the Allies. The Republic has finally taken the upper hand.
John Boyega and Daisy Ridley are the male and female leads.
Boyega is a force-sensitive Stormtrooper under command of Gwendoline Christie's character. He defects from the Empire over the course of the movie, ending up stranded on a desert planet (presumed to be Tatooine) during the first act. Having defied orders, Boyega is hunted as a deserter.
TIE fighter wreckage; possibly Boyega's (here)
Gwendoline Christie portrays an Inquisitor. The Inquisitors are a group of lightsaber wielding individuals that may or may not be force sensitive and head up the Imperial Remnant. Inquisitors aren't Sith, but they are not Jedi either; they are hounds used to track down force sensitives, and they are implied to have assisted Vader's cleansing.
Christie's Inquisitor (here)
Inquisitor's lightsaber (here)
Daisy plays Kira, a character living on Tatooine with Max Von Sydow's character. Kira is a dusty survivalist tomboy. Sydow is a broken man from the prequel area that has become mostly cyborg. He is not force sensitive and for some reason collects artifacts that we've seen at critical points during the previous films, particularly ones relating to the Jedi and the Sith. Daisy shares his fascination with history, and she is revealed in Act II to be the daughter of Han and Leia. As someone with force sensitivity, she resents the fact that Luke went into exile before he could train her, and she hopes that the search for force-sensitive artifacts could lead her to him. She keeps her identity as a Solo under wraps in order to keep trouble away.
Sydow's character examining Vader's helmet (here)
Sydow's character with Kira (here)
Sydow is a sort of mentor to Kira, and apparently his true identity is an Act III revelation that will surprise a lot of people. The contention is that he is an existing character from the prequel films, and the revelation of his identity will shock viewers.
Sydow's character is "not overtly" a villain, but has some sort of Sith connection.
Sydow's "hideout" is a downed AT-AT. Relics of the war are everywhere in the film; there is a real feeling that the entire galaxy is sick of the deadlock.
AT-AT (here)
The blue lightsaber in the above picture is apparently the same one Luke lost on Bespin in Empire.
The ball droid from the trailer belongs to Kira.
On the desert planet (again, presumably Tatooine) Boyega meets up with Daisy and Sydow. At the end of the first act, Han Solo and Chewbacca take them all off planet in the Millennium Falcon. Shortly afterward, we learn that "Kira" is Han and Leia's daughter. Again, she keeps her identity secret to avoid unwanted trouble.
Kira's revelation dumbfounds Boyega and "other people."
Chewbacca's life debt extends to Han's whole family, and he is now sporting a robotic arm.
Chewbacca (here)
Han takes a liking to Boyega. Throughout the film he is in love with Boyega's decision to defy orders and ruin his career in the Imperial military. Han vouches for Boyega, having gone through something similar in his youth.
At some point, Han says the familiar "Hey, it's me!" line. Someone, of course, says the classic "I have a bad feeling about this." These are said to be the only self-referential "smile while rolling your eyes" lines of the film.
When asked whether Han dies, Spoiler Man replied that he will "not spoil the third act." This in and of itself does not reveal anything, but rather comes off as Spoiler Man being audacious, because answering the question is such a way would spoil the third act, if it were true.
Lando's Sullustan co-pilot from Return of the Jedi, Nien Nunb, makes a humorous appearance.
Lando is in the script and has apparently become famous.
Luke Skywalker has secluded himself from the galaxy, training only a handful of students since his exile. He fears for his future; as he comes closer to Yoda levels of power, he becomes more and more secluded. There are no Jedi in the open, but rumors persist that Luke has trained a few since the events of Endor.
Luke first appears in Act II à la Obi Wan dropping his hood in A New Hope. He survives the movie.
Boyega and Daisy become Luke's new apprentices.
Lupita Nyong'o is Luke's current apprentice, and Boyega's eventual love interest.
Luke exiled himself because of the ongoing war. With the galaxy in chaos, he had to ensure his safety so that a new generation could be trained. At least, that's his contention; the fact that he continues to exclude himself despite his great power indicates ulterior motive.
Luke's rumored location (here)
Only Han and Leia know where Luke is, a fact we learn aboard a Mon Cal cruiser in the film's second act.
Luke has grown to dislike using his lightsaber, but apparently draws it late in the movie and showcases his abilities against an Inquisitor. It's still green.
Luke speaks to Yoda's force ghost in the film.
Luke has a reveal in the film which, apparently, is stunning.
Leia is the leader of the New Republic. R2D2 and C3PO are with her during the film.
R2D2 and C3PO are the only comic relief characters in the film.
Carrie Fischer's real life daughter, Billie Lourd, plays Leia in a flashback sequence. Darth Vader appears in this flashback as well, which apparently takes place on Endor.
Yavin is in the film, presumably as the Republic's base of operations.
Presumably Yavin (here)
The Republic is building a super weapon on a Scandanavian-esque cold and forsaken forest world. Its ultimate purpose is unknown.
The Han Solo archetype is split between Oscar Isaac and Domhnall Gleeson.
Isaac is an ace pilot with the last name "Darklighter" who's been fighting the Imperial forces for years now. He's a bit of a hot shot.
He inherits the Millennium Falcon and is implied to be Kira's eventual love interest.
Domhnall Gleeson plays a scoundrel of sorts.
Adam Driver's character is an ambitious, force-sensitive pilot who falls to the dark side.
He is described as having a transformation that "only begins" in Episode VII.
He builds his own lightsaber (the one we see in the trailer). It's referred to as a "junk" lightsaber, which is why it looks different from that which we are familiar with.
The decision to give his initial lightsaber a cross-guard was apparently made wholly by the art department.
The lightsaber battles are written by Kasdan to be minimalistic and powerful.
Driver wears a mask because half of his face is cyborg.
He goes looking for Andy Serkis' character on the aforementioned Scandanavian-esque forest world, as we see in the teaser.
Driver's character (here)
Andy Serkis is some kind of alien Sith exempt from the Rule of Two. He is implied to have existed for a long time, be very powerful, and is the speaker in the teaser.
Serkis is implied to have trained or used Palpatine for some obscure purpose.
Adam Driver receives or builds a new lightsaber after meeting with Serkis.
The Sith are not aligned with the Empire. Serkis' goals differ from Palpatine's. Serkis does not play or replace Darth Plagueis.
99.9% of the EU is disregarded. There's very much a sense of the old characters "passing the torch" to the newer characters.
John Boyega, Daisy Ridley, Oscar Isaac, Domhnall Gleeson, Lupita Nyong'o, Chewbacca, and the droids (presumably Sydow's character and Kira's ball droid) are the new "big 6". Adam Driver and Andy Serkis are Sith and Gwendoline Christie is an Imperial. Characters we still have no knowledge of are those played by Crystal Clarke, Pip Anderson, Christina Chong, Miltos Yerolemou, Greg Grunberg, and Warwick Davis.
GokuSome potentially major details about the plot and characters have made their way online. Some are familiar but there are some new ones. While they don't give away the end of the movie, they do deal with some potentially key moments in the film. The rumors were posted by Galactic News One, who heard all this from one of their sources. If you are trying to avoid all spoilers for The Force Awakens, I strongly advise you to stop reading now. This is your official SPOILER ALERT!
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Here's what Galactic News One has to say about the plot of The Force Awakens,
"The film is dystopian and darker than Empire. Some 30-40 years have passed since Return of the Jedi, and the Empire and New Republic have been locked in a war of attrition. Everyone is languishing and sick of the war. The script, which is described as "too good for JJ Abrams", begins in space, above a desert planet -- presumably Tatooine.
The opening crawl details the ongoing turmoil in the galaxy. How the fall of the Emperor left a void of power, and how the heroes of Endor went into seclusion or kept fighting.
The current state of the war is described as being similar to the European theater of 1944, with the Empire being Germany and the Republic being the Allies. The Republic has finally taken the upper hand.
John Boyega and Daisy Ridley are the male and female leads.
Boyega is a force-sensitive Stormtrooper under command of Gwendoline Christie's character. He defects from the Empire over the course of the movie, ending up stranded on a desert planet (presumed to be Tatooine) during the first act. Having defied orders, Boyega is hunted as a deserter.
TIE fighter wreckage; possibly Boyega's (here)
Gwendoline Christie portrays an Inquisitor. The Inquisitors are a group of lightsaber wielding individuals that may or may not be force sensitive and head up the Imperial Remnant. Inquisitors aren't Sith, but they are not Jedi either; they are hounds used to track down force sensitives, and they are implied to have assisted Vader's cleansing.
Christie's Inquisitor (here)
Inquisitor's lightsaber (here)
Daisy plays Kira, a character living on Tatooine with Max Von Sydow's character. Kira is a dusty survivalist tomboy. Sydow is a broken man from the prequel area that has become mostly cyborg. He is not force sensitive and for some reason collects artifacts that we've seen at critical points during the previous films, particularly ones relating to the Jedi and the Sith. Daisy shares his fascination with history, and she is revealed in Act II to be the daughter of Han and Leia. As someone with force sensitivity, she resents the fact that Luke went into exile before he could train her, and she hopes that the search for force-sensitive artifacts could lead her to him. She keeps her identity as a Solo under wraps in order to keep trouble away.
Sydow's character examining Vader's helmet (here)
Sydow's character with Kira (here)
Sydow is a sort of mentor to Kira, and apparently his true identity is an Act III revelation that will surprise a lot of people. The contention is that he is an existing character from the prequel films, and the revelation of his identity will shock viewers.
Sydow's character is "not overtly" a villain, but has some sort of Sith connection.
Sydow's "hideout" is a downed AT-AT. Relics of the war are everywhere in the film; there is a real feeling that the entire galaxy is sick of the deadlock.
AT-AT (here)
The blue lightsaber in the above picture is apparently the same one Luke lost on Bespin in Empire.
The ball droid from the trailer belongs to Kira.
On the desert planet (again, presumably Tatooine) Boyega meets up with Daisy and Sydow. At the end of the first act, Han Solo and Chewbacca take them all off planet in the Millennium Falcon. Shortly afterward, we learn that "Kira" is Han and Leia's daughter. Again, she keeps her identity secret to avoid unwanted trouble.
Kira's revelation dumbfounds Boyega and "other people."
Chewbacca's life debt extends to Han's whole family, and he is now sporting a robotic arm.
Chewbacca (here)
Han takes a liking to Boyega. Throughout the film he is in love with Boyega's decision to defy orders and ruin his career in the Imperial military. Han vouches for Boyega, having gone through something similar in his youth.
At some point, Han says the familiar "Hey, it's me!" line. Someone, of course, says the classic "I have a bad feeling about this." These are said to be the only self-referential "smile while rolling your eyes" lines of the film.
When asked whether Han dies, Spoiler Man replied that he will "not spoil the third act." This in and of itself does not reveal anything, but rather comes off as Spoiler Man being audacious, because answering the question is such a way would spoil the third act, if it were true.
Lando's Sullustan co-pilot from Return of the Jedi, Nien Nunb, makes a humorous appearance.
Lando is in the script and has apparently become famous.
Luke Skywalker has secluded himself from the galaxy, training only a handful of students since his exile. He fears for his future; as he comes closer to Yoda levels of power, he becomes more and more secluded. There are no Jedi in the open, but rumors persist that Luke has trained a few since the events of Endor.
Luke first appears in Act II à la Obi Wan dropping his hood in A New Hope. He survives the movie.
Boyega and Daisy become Luke's new apprentices.
Lupita Nyong'o is Luke's current apprentice, and Boyega's eventual love interest.
Luke exiled himself because of the ongoing war. With the galaxy in chaos, he had to ensure his safety so that a new generation could be trained. At least, that's his contention; the fact that he continues to exclude himself despite his great power indicates ulterior motive.
Luke's rumored location (here)
Only Han and Leia know where Luke is, a fact we learn aboard a Mon Cal cruiser in the film's second act.
Luke has grown to dislike using his lightsaber, but apparently draws it late in the movie and showcases his abilities against an Inquisitor. It's still green.
Luke speaks to Yoda's force ghost in the film.
Luke has a reveal in the film which, apparently, is stunning.
Leia is the leader of the New Republic. R2D2 and C3PO are with her during the film.
R2D2 and C3PO are the only comic relief characters in the film.
Carrie Fischer's real life daughter, Billie Lourd, plays Leia in a flashback sequence. Darth Vader appears in this flashback as well, which apparently takes place on Endor.
Yavin is in the film, presumably as the Republic's base of operations.
Presumably Yavin (here)
The Republic is building a super weapon on a Scandanavian-esque cold and forsaken forest world. Its ultimate purpose is unknown.
The Han Solo archetype is split between Oscar Isaac and Domhnall Gleeson.
Isaac is an ace pilot with the last name "Darklighter" who's been fighting the Imperial forces for years now. He's a bit of a hot shot.
He inherits the Millennium Falcon and is implied to be Kira's eventual love interest.
Domhnall Gleeson plays a scoundrel of sorts.
Adam Driver's character is an ambitious, force-sensitive pilot who falls to the dark side.
He is described as having a transformation that "only begins" in Episode VII.
He builds his own lightsaber (the one we see in the trailer). It's referred to as a "junk" lightsaber, which is why it looks different from that which we are familiar with.
The decision to give his initial lightsaber a cross-guard was apparently made wholly by the art department.
The lightsaber battles are written by Kasdan to be minimalistic and powerful.
Driver wears a mask because half of his face is cyborg.
He goes looking for Andy Serkis' character on the aforementioned Scandanavian-esque forest world, as we see in the teaser.
Driver's character (here)
Andy Serkis is some kind of alien Sith exempt from the Rule of Two. He is implied to have existed for a long time, be very powerful, and is the speaker in the teaser.
Serkis is implied to have trained or used Palpatine for some obscure purpose.
Adam Driver receives or builds a new lightsaber after meeting with Serkis.
The Sith are not aligned with the Empire. Serkis' goals differ from Palpatine's. Serkis does not play or replace Darth Plagueis.
99.9% of the EU is disregarded. There's very much a sense of the old characters "passing the torch" to the newer characters.
John Boyega, Daisy Ridley, Oscar Isaac, Domhnall Gleeson, Lupita Nyong'o, Chewbacca, and the droids (presumably Sydow's character and Kira's ball droid) are the new "big 6". Adam Driver and Andy Serkis are Sith and Gwendoline Christie is an Imperial. Characters we still have no knowledge of are those played by Crystal Clarke, Pip Anderson, Christina Chong, Miltos Yerolemou, Greg Grunberg, and Warwick Davis.
I saw this the other day, looks awesome.
ALso, i just rewatched episode 3. After watching the clone wars, damn, that shit was heavy. I still maintain my opinion that whilst episode 1 and 2 are terrible, 3 really makes up for it. It has its awkward dialogue moments, but theres alot of heart behind that film. and boy, is it dark.
Nice. The New Darth's like...FUCK TREES, OPEN CANS.
Only reservations for me; too many dumb special effects, dumb dialogue and lack of a captivating plot similar to recent Star Trek movies. Everything else should be worth paying for.
STwoopsNice. The New Darth's like...FUCK TREES, OPEN CANS.
Only reservations for me; too many dumb special effects, dumb dialogue and lack of a captivating plot similar to recent Star Trek movies. Everything else should be worth paying for.
I don't really understand this most of the time. I'm a big fan of star wars but I feel like part of their charm is the cheesy dialogue and acting. I feel like all 6 of the movies have that in some form.
SKI.INGI don't really understand this most of the time. I'm a big fan of star wars but I feel like part of their charm is the cheesy dialogue and acting. I feel like all 6 of the movies have that in some form.
I suppose you first have to hate star trek.
2nd, you are correct, but mostly the charm is in the cheesy metaphors behind the cheesy acting/dialogue. The new "evil" lightsaber is a symbol, Abrams signed on for three years... obviously. It just depends on your own interpretation. Parts of a New Hope were so innovative and wacky that the whole thing ended up making a lot more sense than just going back in time. And Harrison Ford is not cheesy, at least I hope its better than fucking doctor who.
totally nerded out this weekend and had a star wars marathon. had never heard of machete order, so figured i'd give it a go. somewhere along the line i guess i had forgotten that GL changed the Yub-Nub song at the end of ROTJ, and i must say that i find this to be unacceptable. he's really fucked the originals up big time. i don't know of one change that i actually like. fucking d-bag. part of me hopes they don't really let him touch e7.
