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In the past few years I've ordered 2 jackets, a pair of pants, and mittens from saga. (No i don't wear then all at once LOL) But today when I was doing a gear check I've noticed all of my gear has had a tear in the item somewhere. I've worn my on deck jacket literally twice, there's 2 holes inside the pockets. I have a shutout with a hole in the pocket too. I also have the deer camo mitts that I've worn 1 time, that also have a rip in them. Anyone else ever have this problem? I've noticed a lot of shit talk here on NS towards saga but I think the stuff they make is sick.
I've got a few small rips on my pants but when you where them everyday from December to end of March for 6+ hours they are bound to get beat up at least a little bit. Although one of those metal things at the bottom of the pants that hook to your boots which don't work that great with ski boots anyway fell of the second I had them but that was probably my fault seeing they got stuck on one the the buckles and I didn't notice so it popped right off.
Saga is not high quality, bullet proof outerwear. Compare it to some nicer outerwear and you will see that saga is paper thin. My HH is on a whole different level than saga and it doesnt cost much more.
And HH isnt even that fancy. Go look at an Arcteryx to see some bullet proof shit.
By cheaply made clothes and expect it to fall apart. And yes, i have owned 3 different pieces of saga outerwear
Saga is appealing to me because I can get last years $250 pants in pretty great shape for $15 off KSL classifieds. For that price I will patch some holes and do a nikwax wash.
Dr.Nitrog3nI've always known saga to be really hit and miss as far as durability goes, also it just looks bad.
i generally don't like the look of saga, but you can't go wrong with solid color pants. a personal anecdote on quality...
well i've had two pairs of anomie pants. got them both dirt cheap through sales. the first (10/11 line) lasted me 2 and a half years. i could have got some more time out of them but it was time.
i bought some black pants in a sale halfway through last season and they're doing spectacular so far. for the price i pay, i get what i'd expect from saga.
probably wouldn't buy a jacket from them though, they make people's stature look weird. and for that i love my armada jacket.
.LincolnI have a question I hope one of you can answer. How does bloom outerwear compare to saga? Looking at picking up a jacket from there
Not sure if I can answer this completely because I only have 1 saga jacket that I haven't used yet, but I love my bloom jacket. About the same quality from what I can tell, and perfect length for me. Also lovin the magnetic hood and the pockets on it. Also I haven't seen a single kid on the hill with a bloom jacket so far, so it's definitely unique. I would recommend.
From seeing and wearing both saga and bloom, I liked the waterproofing on the saga stuff more but I would say bloom had nicer material that was more durable and overall a better anatomical fit(atleast for me)
[tk]Not sure if I can answer this completely because I only have 1 saga jacket that I haven't used yet, but I love my bloom jacket. About the same quality from what I can tell, and perfect length for me. Also lovin the magnetic hood and the pockets on it. Also I haven't seen a single kid on the hill with a bloom jacket so far, so it's definitely unique. I would recommend.
parkplaygroundFrom seeing and wearing both saga and bloom, I liked the waterproofing on the saga stuff more but I would say bloom had nicer material that was more durable and overall a better anatomical fit(atleast for me)
StoseThey are very comparable. Bloom is a little lighter
Thanks for the info...k+ I'm probably going to go bloom if my other jacket sells
I haven't skied with anyone that has had durability issues but there is a reason it costs $200 for a jacket compared to some other brands $500 jackets.
That being said, I'm pretty stoked for my Monarch suit this year. PNW rain doesn't stand a chance.
13-15 year old love saga. (generalizing) Saga is a lot of hype and to me it is a fan-boy company. If I saw someone wearing fulltilts, on pair of the latest jskis and head to toe saga I would could very well presume that they suck. (except steve stepp, the only exception thus far).
I just picked up a sabek jacket. The thing is bomb. everything looks really high quality. I haven't been able to test durability yet for obvious reasons but still stoked to try it out. Black diamond stuff is always good too.
I've only heard good things from arcteryx but the style isn't for me.
I do own pieces of saga outerwear/clothing. They are comfortable. Also they are very branded. The durability is hit and miss. for me it has been decent.
The cool thing about saga though is when you wear a saga hoodie or a t shirt off the hill people know that you ski park. And when I see a saga sticker on the back of a car I know the people inside are at least apart of the new-school community
I have never owned saga but I bought some fd/virtika v4 pants which now have small holes after 4 days at hood this summer. I know FD is not known for their quality but just a caparison.
I bought some cheap pants at like big 5 for like 45 bucks which have lasted me two seasons without ripping once even tho they lost some of their water proof.
GrumpisPringleIf I saw someone wearing fulltilts, on pair of the latest jskis and head to toe saga I would could very well presume that they suck. (except steve stepp, the only exception thus far).
GrumpisPringle13-15 year old love saga. (generalizing) Saga is a lot of hype and to me it is a fan-boy company. If I saw someone wearing fulltilts, on pair of the latest jskis and head to toe saga I would could very well presume that they suck. (except steve stepp, the only exception thus far).
kung_powpowThis is some of the dumbest shit I have ever seen
care to expand on that? I think what I said is true. 13-15 year olds generally do like saga. I have friends who suck ass at skiing but think that they are better for wearing saga. They think saga instantly makes them better. The same reason they think they need full tilts and want jskis. How are generalized facts the dumbest shit you have ever seen?
Fan-boy, hype, whatever other nonsense aside, I feel like you cant really hold it against Saga. Most of the big outerwear companies top of the line jackets are running $700+ it's really tough to compare a companies jacket that costs $299 to say a $700 Patagonia jacket. A lot of the Saga stuff is at a price point, and to get to that price point you have to make some sacrifices. That being said, I have never owned a Saga 2 or 3L jacket, just feel it should be noted that some of these big outerwear companies have set the standard for winter outerwear extremely high.
GrumpisPringlecare to expand on that? I think what I said is true. 13-15 year olds generally do like saga. I have friends who suck ass at skiing but think that they are better for wearing saga. They think saga instantly makes them better. The same reason they think they need full tilts and want jskis. How are generalized facts the dumbest shit you have ever seen?
because you called saga a fanboy hype company. that shits dumb. They have tons of styles to try to cater to many different types of people, they have very well respected and talented athletes riding for them, and guess what? yeah many people do like saga, but that doesn't make them fanboys. I see just as many 20 year olds riding with saga as I do 13 year olds, if not more.
Stosebecause you called saga a fanboy hype company. that shits dumb. They have tons of styles to try to cater to many different types of people, they have very well respected and talented athletes riding for them, and guess what? yeah many people do like saga, but that doesn't make them fanboys. I see just as many 20 year olds riding with saga as I do 13 year olds, if not more.
I'll second that. Went to alta one weekend and I saw so many 20 years old+ people wearing saga. Even a few older gentleman. Not a lot of kids at alta (at least from what I saw) but the teens and kids there were definitely not wearing saga.
Reason I use alta as my example is because
1. It's where saga is located
2. It's not a bunch of "13 year olds fanboys"
3. My home mountain cant even afford saga stufd lol
I think your blowing my comment out of proportion. I didn't say that saga was restricted to prepubescent gapers. I just said that saga does cater to their gapertastic needs.
With that said I do agree that saga's team is fuckin stacked and many adults shred in pieces of saga clothing. What I was trying to get across is that I hate it when I see a 13 yearold wearing full saga, fulltilts that don't fit him, and some j's on his feet, literally.
I wasn't trying to say that saga's only demographic is a bunch of fanboy little kids. I was just trying to say that I don't like the fanboy little kids.
GrumpisPringleI think your blowing my comment out of proportion. I didn't say that saga was restricted to prepubescent gapers. I just said that saga does cater to their gapertastic needs.
With that said I do agree that saga's team is fuckin stacked and many adults shred in pieces of saga clothing. What I was trying to get across is that I hate it when I see a 13 yearold wearing full saga, fulltilts that don't fit him, and some j's on his feet, literally.
I wasn't trying to say that saga's only demographic is a bunch of fanboy little kids. I was just trying to say that I don't like the fanboy little kids.
My one Saga jacket has performed exceedingly well considering how little I paid for it, welll enough to warrant buying another Saga jacket to replace it. I've had no quality issues in a year of shredding but the simple fact is that I do not need a 100% Gore-Tex, seam-taped Arc'teryx jacket. Would it be awesome to have one? Yes. Ten times more awesome than a Saga jacket given the conditions I use it in? Probably not. There's not too much to complain about when you pay one quarter of the retail cost on a brand new jacket from the manufacturer or even less on a new jacket from someone here on NS. Saga fills a completely different niche than HH or Arc'teryx, and does to to its fullest capacity.
GrumpisPringleI think your blowing my comment out of proportion. I didn't say that saga was restricted to prepubescent gapers. I just said that saga does cater to their gapertastic needs.
With that said I do agree that saga's team is fuckin stacked and many adults shred in pieces of saga clothing. What I was trying to get across is that I hate it when I see a 13 yearold wearing full saga, fulltilts that don't fit him, and some j's on his feet, literally.
I wasn't trying to say that saga's only demographic is a bunch of fanboy little kids. I was just trying to say that I don't like the fanboy little kids.
Why do you hate Full Tilt, SAga, and J Skis so much?
Also I've never had a problem with any of my saga gear.. Very high quality for the price. Is it getting crazy popular? Yes. But if you are good at what you do then it will show.
GrumpisPringle13-15 year old love saga. (generalizing) Saga is a lot of hype and to me it is a fan-boy company. If I saw someone wearing fulltilts, on pair of the latest jskis and head to toe saga I would could very well presume that they suck. (except steve stepp, the only exception thus far).
I just picked up a sabek jacket. The thing is bomb. everything looks really high quality. I haven't been able to test durability yet for obvious reasons but still stoked to try it out. Black diamond stuff is always good too.
I've only heard good things from arcteryx but the style isn't for me.
I do own pieces of saga outerwear/clothing. They are comfortable. Also they are very branded. The durability is hit and miss. for me it has been decent.
The cool thing about saga though is when you wear a saga hoodie or a t shirt off the hill people know that you ski park. And when I see a saga sticker on the back of a car I know the people inside are at least apart of the new-school community
I generally judge a person's skill level by how they ski
It's always tough to hear from our loyal fans when a piece of their gear doesn't hold up to the quality standard that they and ourselves here at Saga expect and always strive for. That being said, being actively involved within this community is what has helped us grow to where we are today and we always appreciate the feedback from end users of the gear!
I got a saga fatigue jacket for like 80 bucks in a normal fitting size and was thinking about buying J skis cause according to others and what Jason say about them they seem to be a ski I would enjoy. Unfortunately I have dalbellos so I ruined the stereotype.
I got an arcteryx Alpha SV suit this year. Retails for $1200 (I didn't pay that much) but it is basically considered to be the most durable alpine shell on the planet at this point... All I can say is that it was one hell of an upgrade from my 08-09 Saga.
Durability doesn't seem to be an issue with my items from Saga, frankly, I love them because they're cheap, their items fit me well, and overall the company fits me well for being a low budget teenager skiing on the east coast. I do get annoyed at kids that hop on every bandwagon ever, but who cares? I mean, as long as they're not interfering with your skiing why should it be such a big deal?
Also, I have Virtika pants and usually wear my old M.Elihu vest, but I still love some Saga hoodies!
I thought saga was sweet like 4-5 years ago, now I wouldn't even consider getting something from them. I switched to Orage and was dumbfounded with how much nicer their outerwear is. IMO whenever I think of Saga I picture kids that are just barely in high school or someone that just started freestyle.
camstainI thought saga was sweet like 4-5 years ago, now I wouldn't even consider getting something from them. I switched to Orage and was dumbfounded with how much nicer their outerwear is. IMO whenever I think of Saga I picture kids that are just barely in high school or someone that just started freestyle.
Not trying to toot our own horn here but our products have come a loooonnnggg way since 4 or 5 years ago. Hopefully someday you and any other people who have had less than stellar experiences will get a chance to try us out again.
What I'm alluding to is that we've for several years been trying to figure out a way to do on hill demos for outerwear like ski manufacturers do. So far the only limitation is having the staff for the events. But hopefully as we grow we can make this a reality soon. Currently the only people who get to test outerwear are industry publications. Everyone should get a chance.
Saga.Not trying to toot our own horn here but our products have come a loooonnnggg way since 4 or 5 years ago. Hopefully someday you and any other people who have had less than stellar experiences will get a chance to try us out again.
What I'm alluding to is that we've for several years been trying to figure out a way to do on hill demos for outerwear like ski manufacturers do. So far the only limitation is having the staff for the events. But hopefully as we grow we can make this a reality soon. Currently the only people who get to test outerwear are industry publications. Everyone should get a chance.
Will join the staff for any a basin keystone demos. (That's the only pass I have) but seriously think that's an awesome idea/opportunity.
Saga.Not trying to toot our own horn here but our products have come a loooonnnggg way since 4 or 5 years ago. Hopefully someday you and any other people who have had less than stellar experiences will get a chance to try us out again.
What I'm alluding to is that we've for several years been trying to figure out a way to do on hill demos for outerwear like ski manufacturers do. So far the only limitation is having the staff for the events. But hopefully as we grow we can make this a reality soon. Currently the only people who get to test outerwear are industry publications. Everyone should get a chance.
That's a really good idea and I'll be in line trying jackets out when it happens :)
I think it comes down to how can you even comment on a company's durability if you've admitted to barely even using the gear. Two little holes in a pocket? Not a big deal, especially with all of their dirt cheap sales. I own one Saga jacket, and while its not the highest quality, I only paid $110 for it. Plus, there are so many random events that determine whether a piece of gear gets ripped up or not. I have a decent sized slice in my Armada pants from when I crashed and my edge cut it, but that doesn't mean it isn't high quality or durable. It just means my ski took an unlucky course. My skis were new and sharp. Could be anything. And I don't understand why people still make fun of Saga for being a skittle brand. There are plenty of muted color offerings.
I like getting saga because I know what Im getting every time. They're a company that I'm completely okay with giving my money to, because I know I'll be getting a good product, and they give so much back to the ski industry with that money.
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I stick to Armada outerwear and Orage. I have had a pair of Armada pants and jacket that are three years old. Worn them 100 plus days and they are still in great shape. Only holes are at the bottom of the pants from walking on them and the Jacket doesnt have any holes or scratches. Just done a couple Nikwax waterproofing washes and they're good to go. I now have three full outerwear setups from Armada and love them. Sticking with what works. (Armada also has everything from super techy to cheaper, cost friendly stuff.)
What better place for a community discussion. We built our brand around 1 concept, and 10 years later we stand behind that. If any of our customers or loyal Saga Fam has an issue with anything, they know our brand backs them 100.
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Mr.PenguinFan-boy, hype, whatever other nonsense aside, I feel like you cant really hold it against Saga. Most of the big outerwear companies top of the line jackets are running $700+ it's really tough to compare a companies jacket that costs $299 to say a $700 Patagonia jacket. A lot of the Saga stuff is at a price point, and to get to that price point you have to make some sacrifices. That being said, I have never owned a Saga 2 or 3L jacket, just feel it should be noted that some of these big outerwear companies have set the standard for winter outerwear extremely high.
I think this is true. Saga is really good for how inexpensive it is, And every thing they make is so stylish.
I've only skimmed this thread tbh, and I've seen Helly Hansen and Arc'teryx names being dropped. Both companies make pretty high end gear, GRANTED, HH makes cheap, really durable gear, they have the backing to such things. Saga is a dwarf compared to these guys, so they probably don't have the funds to go play around with all this expensive material, and I don't mean that in a disrespectful way by any means btw. Personally, I grabbed an Arc'teryx Sabre last year which is a 550 dollar SHELL (emphasis on shell, not jacket) and I haven't thought of wearing anything but arc'teryx since then, but again, it's really fucking expensive so I expect quality lol! Saga makes pretty quality gear for their price. I still rock anomie pants with my arc'teryx and haven't had any complaints about em (Going two years strong now). Yes the pockets may rip down the road but they're freaking mesh lol, its so thin! Their zippers are the same zippers on my arc'teryx jacket (it's a start). Overall, even if Saga has a stacked team, I agree with the dude saying they offer a bunch of gear to a wide variety of ages at a reasonable price. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend Saga to any of my friends. Shit I even tried to get the shop I work at to carry them, at least their pants! (no cigar, sorry boys, we really don't have the clientele, but I'll keep trying). Gotta give credit to the boys over at Saga, they started from the ground up and built themselves an empire (to us here on NS at least) which not an easy task to do in this industry. So I tip my hat to you gentlemen, good day. (sorry for the rant, I love you all)
I also have the deer hunter mittens and the first day I ever wore them the palm stitching came all undone but luckily the bag part that's underneath the outer layer is still intact
^ well said. I think its important to note that Saga has seemingly remained unchanged throughout the years as a brand. They remained true to who they are and that is something that most companies cant say.
