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J_Berg
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Going to be a senior in highschool and thinking about engineering. Im currently writing my apps for Boulder, UW madison, Montana State, N. Michigan, and possibly U of U. I didn't do too hot on my AB Calc Ap test, but got decent grades both semesters. Im also taking BC next year, along with AP physics, i took the honors physics class this year.. Anyone in the field/older have any experience with grades in relation to success in college. I enjoy engineering but I feel like I dont have the grades/scores.
Take it easy
Jul 12 2014 5:42PM
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p.hawks
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At work/on mobile. Pursuin a double degree in mechanical engineering and international studies, and also working in the automotive industry. Threads for later
Jul 15 2014 8:45AM
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joris.blanc
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I'm currently in engineering school now, still have a year to go. Before getting into engineering school I didn't have great grades but they weren't bad either.

The first year was kind of hard and I failed some classes but after that I figured out how to study in a better way and now I have some great grades without studying more.

All that to say that grades you have before don't mean a whole lot, what is important is that you are motivated and know that you will have to do a lot of work, do it because you find engineering interesting!
Jul 15 2014 9:36AM
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HamFaceGirl
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In all reality I am studying to be an engineer, and also involved in research. Feel free to message me if you have any questions
Jul 15 2014 11:15AM
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shocker611
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shredschralp^^^ U of U recruiter


haha I might as well be. But I seriously just love my school and considering I was EXTREMELY close to not coming here because of the mormon situation, I don't like seeing people turning it up simply due to that reason.
Jul 16 2014 12:21AM
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matoco
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I recently graduated from CU Boulder with a civil engineering degree. It was pretty easy for me to get a job in the Denver area and most of my classmates also got them (at least if you go construction management route). I loved CU and would recommend it for anyone, it is such a fun place to spend 4 years. Only drawback is that it really isn't that close to skiing, but it's still awesome.

As far as whether or not you want to go engineering, I would recommend at least applying to the engineering school within the universities that you apply to. I too was on the fence coming out of high school and wasn't sure if I wanted to do engineering so I applied as an open option engineering student. Do this instead of applying open option arts and sciences. It is much easier to get out of the engineering school than into it once you are actually a student.

Civil is probably the easiest or one of the easiest engineering disciplines, and I liked it a lot. You would have really busy weeks from time to time, but you still had enough free time to party and have fun as much as you should in my opinion. The first two years will be heavy math classes that are pretty difficult and are often the "weed out" classes. After those, you will start getting into more focused classes which are usually more enjoyable. Overall, I'd say if your on the fence, apply for open option engineering, try it for a semester, and if you don't like it, switch out and you will probably already have almost all of your math/science requirements for the rest of college out of the way if you go into something like arts and sciences.
Jul 18 2014 11:10PM
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Jakx~
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I'm going to be a Sophomore next year aiming for my Mechanical or Electrical Engineering degree. Like it's already been said if you have a personal desire to be an engineer then you should be fine. It's a ton of work, and really hard but worth it in the end.

In my experience grades only matter if you're trying to get into a place like Harvard and for Scholarships. Don't slack off though, cause a .1 difference in your GPA could potentially mean around 10-20k after four years in terms of scholarships.

I'm also only in my second year of college so I haven't dealt with upper division classes or Pro-school. Pro-school is college you go to within a university for your major. Since I'm going into either Mechanical or Electrical Engineering I need to take classes that fulfill the requirements to get in. This could be another place where grades potentially matter depending on how competitive the school you're going to is.
Jul 20 2014 1:12AM
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ajax
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Graduated from Montana State in mechanical engineering a couple years ago. I highly recommend the school. It's a great balance of skiing and school, and it's easy to get accepted as well if you are worried about that.
Jul 20 2014 1:21AM
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cobra_commander
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If you want a great paying job immediately upon graduation, go to Colorado School of Mines.
Jul 20 2014 9:26AM
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shocker611
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cobra_commanderIf you want a great paying job immediately upon graduation, go to Colorado School of Mines.


If you want to get laid in college, don't go to Colorado School of Mines.
Jul 20 2014 4:05PM
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~bagelz~
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I'm going to Montana state for mech eng in a month pm if you have any questions. Other people gave solid advice about engineering in general
Jul 20 2014 4:59PM
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TOAST.
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shocker611If you want to get laid in college, don't go to Colorado School of Mines.


But they can't say no
Jul 20 2014 8:22PM
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Phil-X-
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Just a heads up for "future engineers" still in highschool-

If you think this is what engineering is all about


Youre in for a big surprise of this kind of bullshit work

Jul 20 2014 8:49PM
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TOAST.
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Phil-X-Just a heads up for "future engineers" still in highschool-

If you think this is what engineering is all about


Youre in for a big surprise of this kind of bullshit work



eh depends. I've been doing a lot of design work at my internship and that is what most of the engineers there do as well.
Jul 20 2014 9:07PM
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Phil-X-
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TOAST.eh depends. I've been doing a lot of design work at my internship and that is what most of the engineers there do as well.


interesting, you may be within a large enough organization to have people that work only on various tasks
Jul 20 2014 9:23PM
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cobra_commander
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Phil-X-Just a heads up for "future engineers" still in highschool-

If you think this is what engineering is all about


Youre in for a big surprise of this kind of bullshit work



two different kinds of engineering there buddy.
Jul 20 2014 9:24PM
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TOAST.
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Phil-X-interesting, you may be within a large enough organization to have people that work only on various tasks


Nope 60 employees total in the whole company.
Jul 20 2014 10:15PM
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Phil-X-
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cobra_commandertwo different kinds of engineering there buddy.


How so? One is a visual chart of the process that basically every contractable engineering firm must go through during a project.. the other is a design render.. neither are "kinds of engineering"


My point being that a lot of kids think they're going to be sitting on autodesk all day playing around in inventor extruding shit when there is a ton more work then just the design process, such as: proposals, gantt charts, material cost estimates/procurement, load calcs, energy transfers, site visits, consumer consultations, constantly updating your portfolio and redundant amounts of paperwork


Not all engineers are subject to that sort of work (just as toast said) but from personal experience I can say the design process is only a fraction of the real work
Jul 20 2014 11:01PM
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Phil-X-
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cobra_commandertwo different kinds of engineering there buddy.


How so? One is a visual chart of the process that basically every contractable engineering firm must go through during a project.. the other is a design render.. neither are "kinds of engineering"


My point being that a lot of kids think they're going to be sitting on autodesk all day playing around in inventor extruding shit when there is a ton more work then just the design process, such as: proposals, gantt charts, material cost estimates/procurement, load calcs, energy transfers, site visits, consumer consultations, constantly updating your portfolio and redundant amounts of paperwork


Not all engineers are subject to that sort of work (just as toast said) but from personal experience I can say the design process is only a fraction of the real work
Jul 20 2014 11:01PM
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miroz
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Phil-X-My point being that a lot of kids think they're going to be sitting on autodesk all day playing around in inventor extruding shit when there is a ton more work then just the design process, such as: proposals, gantt charts, material cost estimates/procurement, load calcs, energy transfers, site visits, consumer consultations, constantly updating your portfolio and redundant amounts of paperwork
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I would argue that this is the design process, minus the portfolio and paperwork. Most of those things are what spark iteration. It's also not something that every engineer has to do. Maybe the project manager...

I agree that the "formal" design process is way less interesting than "aha" moments, and it's true that it usually takes forever to get anything done. But generalizing that makes a lot of assumptions about organization size and structure that aren't necessarily generalizable IMO.
Jul 20 2014 11:15PM
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Phil-X-
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blondie.I would argue that this is the design process, minus the portfolio and paperwork. Most of those things are what spark iteration. It's also not something that every engineer has to do. Maybe the project manager...

I agree that the "formal" design process is way less interesting than "aha" moments, and it's true that it usually takes forever to get anything done. But generalizing that makes a lot of assumptions about organization size and structure that aren't necessarily generalizable IMO.


well said, I definitely see what you mean.

Also, how the fuck did you manage to type within the quote box, Im impressed
Jul 20 2014 11:24PM
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miroz
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Phil-X-well said, I definitely see what you mean.

Also, how the fuck did you manage to type within the quote box, Im impressed


Hahahahaha on purpose for emphasis...of course. Saw cobra did it in another thread, I think it just happens?
Jul 20 2014 11:39PM
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CliffyByro
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Phil-X-Just a heads up for "future engineers" still in highschool-

If you think this is what engineering is all about


Youre in for a big surprise of this kind of bullshit work



yeah if you're in a management job. there obviously has to be someone to sit and extrude all that shit, not every engineer sits doing gantt flow charts and all that shit all day every day, thats a very narrow generalisation
Jul 21 2014 9:01AM
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dmski
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Truth! I'm an engineer and while I enjoyed it, it wasn't easy for me. Shoulda done business but I ended up doing something that challenged me and I still enjoyed what I learned. I'll pair it with a MBA in the future and that should set me up decently well for what I'd like to do.
Jul 21 2014 3:38PM
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Heart
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PULLI'm also really socially awkward like I literally can't have conversations with groups of people it stresses me out so much.


You'll fit right in then
Jul 21 2014 8:41PM
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juicedrummer11
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Phil-X-My point being that a lot of kids think they're going to be sitting on autodesk all day playing around in inventor extruding shit when there is a ton more work then just the design process, such as: proposals, gantt charts, material cost estimates/procurement, load calcs, energy transfers, site visits, consumer consultations, constantly updating your portfolio and redundant amounts of paperwork


Not all engineers are subject to that sort of work (just as toast said) but from personal experience I can say the design process is only a fraction of the real work


can attest to this. i spend more time in excel than i do in any autodesk software at the moment.
Jul 22 2014 9:27AM
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louie.mirags
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Phil-X-How so? One is a visual chart of the process that basically every contractable engineering firm must go through during a project.. the other is a design render.. neither are "kinds of engineering"


My point being that a lot of kids think they're going to be sitting on autodesk all day playing around in inventor extruding shit when there is a ton more work then just the design process, such as: proposals, gantt charts, material cost estimates/procurement, load calcs, energy transfers, site visits, consumer consultations, constantly updating your portfolio and redundant amounts of paperwork


Not all engineers are subject to that sort of work (just as toast said) but from personal experience I can say the design process is only a fraction of the real work


Yup I can tell ya from experience it's a mixture of everything mentioned above
Jul 22 2014 9:03PM
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DasGoatenshafter
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I would say that the thing with engineering isn't how difficult the math is, or even a lot of the scientific concepts. Its the application and problem solving that is difficult. Engineering is extremely rewarding in terms of applying many different concepts to solve one problem, whereas hard science will further your understanding of specialized concepts. Both are difficult and rewarding but (to some extent) in different ways.
Jul 23 2014 10:15PM
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Logan.
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I know this bump might be pointless now, but anyways... I have to say I don't agree with a lot of stuff on this page. From my experience, people aren't socially awkward any more than other faculties (meaning that the percentage of weird, awkward kids is the same). And yes, it is hard, and probably harder than most other faculties (but that all depends).

Overall I'd say that in terms of having fun at university/college it is pretty much the same as any other faculty, and it also seems like it's the best for getting a job after you graduate. BUT you have to be interested in doing a ton of math and physics, and try to know if being an engineer is really what you want for the rest of your life.

Oct 20 2014 1:33AM
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4man
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i feel like i can give a bit of insight on this. i am a second year mechanical engineering student at ualberta and to answer your question simply, highschool marks really do not matter all that much. everything you learn in highschool isnt all that relevant or you will relearn in n time anyway. especially in your first year chemistry classes, you will learn that everything in highschool wasnt actually 100% accurate. it really all boils down to work ethic and how you learn. i was class valadictorian and won governor generals award in highschool and only finished with a 3.2 and i even have friends that got mid to high 90s in highschool that failed out. but on the flip side i have friends who barely squeeked into the faculty but were on the deans list after first year. you just have to commit yourself (im one of those people who teaches themself everything the night before the midterm).
i really do recomend it though if that's really what you want to do. for the hard work its really rewarding and if you get into the specialty you want its pretty damn cool (maybe im just a nerd). as said before though, prepare for a few duds and really socially awkward people and some people that are actually just really stupid (i cant stand international students here) but find the right group and they're all absolute beauties. plus we drink with the best of them. hope this helps
Oct 20 2014 10:13AM
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DasGoatenshafter
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Phil-X-Just a heads up for "future engineers" still in highschool-

If you think this is what engineering is all about


Youre in for a big surprise of this kind of bullshit work



In my experience, large companies will have the engineering technicians (2-3 year college diploma, not an engineering degree) do the CAD component while the P.Eng folks do the actual design. The P Eng will know how to CAD but is hired to sign off on designs etc, not do the bitch work of drawing it all up
Oct 20 2014 1:46PM
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the~muffin~man
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Studying Mechanical Engineering Technology up at MSU Bozeman... Been pretty rad so far, you can Message me if you have any questions about it.
Oct 20 2014 4:49PM
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Dustin.
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A 4 year engineering program taught me that being an engineer would be fucking awful.

Actually college in general taught me that most jobs suck balls and I either need to have an exciting one or accept that I'm going to be poor.
Oct 20 2014 6:00PM
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yuck
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Dustin.A 4 year engineering program taught me that being an engineer would be fucking awful.

Actually college in general taught me that most jobs suck balls and I either need to have an exciting one or accept that I'm going to be poor.


hahaha this, im in my fourth year of engineering, had a student job in a real engineering workplace for 2 summers and man fuck that. im gonna neeed a year or two before i can commit myself to live in a cubicle again. im sure ill get to a point in my life where im okay with that but right now im at the height of my restlessness and an entry level engineering job, being a CAD bitch in a cubicle farm is not what i wanna be doing right now.
Oct 20 2014 6:14PM
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Dustin.
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yuckhahaha this, im in my fourth year of engineering, had a student job in a real engineering workplace for 2 summers and man fuck that. im gonna neeed a year or two before i can commit myself to live in a cubicle again. im sure ill get to a point in my life where im okay with that but right now im at the height of my restlessness and an entry level engineering job, being a CAD bitch in a cubicle farm is not what i wanna be doing right now.


Ya I couldn't convince myself that dorking away at a computer inside and designing shit for other people to enjoy is fun.
Oct 20 2014 6:27PM
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msg
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yuckhahaha this, im in my fourth year of engineering, had a student job in a real engineering workplace for 2 summers and man fuck that. im gonna neeed a year or two before i can commit myself to live in a cubicle again. im sure ill get to a point in my life where im okay with that but right now im at the height of my restlessness and an entry level engineering job, being a CAD bitch in a cubicle farm is not what i wanna be doing right now.


what about being a cad bitch didn't you like? Im curious because it's something i could see myself being that I like it. ps howd you get that gig
Oct 20 2014 6:37PM
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Scotty_B
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If you are worried about your motivation/smarts than don't sweat it. Go someplace where you can ski a bunch and get an engineering degree and as long as you keep your shit balanced out you'll have the time of your life.
Oct 20 2014 7:01PM
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TOAST.
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stucciwhat about being a cad bitch didn't you like? Im curious because it's something i could see myself being that I like it. ps howd you get that gig


It gets old pretty damn fast. Designing and creating the 3D parts isn't bad but dimensioning is really boring. That being said I would much rather do that than plant or HVAC layouts. Hopefully I can stick with the machine design path.
Oct 20 2014 7:35PM
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caucasian_chad
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yuckhahaha this, im in my fourth year of engineering, had a student job in a real engineering workplace for 2 summers and man fuck that. im gonna neeed a year or two before i can commit myself to live in a cubicle again. im sure ill get to a point in my life where im okay with that but right now im at the height of my restlessness and an entry level engineering job, being a CAD bitch in a cubicle farm is not what i wanna be doing right now.


Should've been a civil engineer. I spend probably about 75% of my time in the field during the summer months. I realize that this will diminish somewhat once I'm a PE, but I'll probably still be able to do 25-50% out of office in the summer from what I've seen. This summer we had a GIS project where we had to shoot a bunch of survey monuments and I spent about 6 weeks ripping around various Indian Reservations in Montana on a four wheeler with a bunch of GPS units for 12-14 hours a day (and I'm hourly so I was getting OT). It was basically a paid scavenger hunt, probably the most fun I've ever had at work. Oh, and my company says I can work part time in the winter if I want to so I can ski pretty much as much as I want.
Oct 20 2014 8:10PM
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yuck
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stucciwhat about being a cad bitch didn't you like? Im curious because it's something i could see myself being that I like it. ps howd you get that gig


my job actually didnt include much CAD work, but I have done enough of it in school to know that I wouldnt enjoy it. being in that work environment, cadding stuff, is definitely not my thing. If it sounds enjoyable to you then thats awesome because you will have no problem going through that part of your career (should you choose to do so).

caucasian_chadShould've been a civil engineer. I spend probably about 75% of my time in the field during the summer months. I realize that this will diminish somewhat once I'm a PE, but I'll probably still be able to do 25-50% out of office in the summer from what I've seen. This summer we had a GIS project where we had to shoot a bunch of survey monuments and I spent about 6 weeks ripping around various Indian Reservations in Montana on a four wheeler with a bunch of GPS units for 12-14 hours a day (and I'm hourly so I was getting OT). It was basically a paid scavenger hunt, probably the most fun I've ever had at work. Oh, and my company says I can work part time in the winter if I want to so I can ski pretty much as much as I want.


Sounds like you have landed a pretty awesome set up. cant say its entirely due to you being a civil major though because obviously there are a lot of jobs in civil engg that are boring, indoor desk jobs. yours sounds rad though. I am in mechanical, and its definitely interesting to me, I would just want a more hands-on job like yours though. at least for the first little while, as I ease into real life haha
Oct 21 2014 1:29PM
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louie.mirags
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stucciwhat about being a cad bitch didn't you like? Im curious because it's something i could see myself being that I like it. ps howd you get that gig


Sitting for 8 hours a day blows. Starts to hurt your neck or back, even when you think you're sitting straight up. Besides that my job is really chill...
Oct 21 2014 2:59PM
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AT-AT
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I'm an engineer for Kapsch. We do toll systems, aka EZ-Pass.

I personally love my job.

Go for engineering, the worst case is you change majors. Best case is you get to make/design things that people use everyday.
Oct 21 2014 4:28PM
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cornholio
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caucasian_chadShould've been a civil engineer. I spend probably about 75% of my time in the field during the summer months. I realize that this will diminish somewhat once I'm a PE, but I'll probably still be able to do 25-50% out of office in the summer from what I've seen. This summer we had a GIS project where we had to shoot a bunch of survey monuments and I spent about 6 weeks ripping around various Indian Reservations in Montana on a four wheeler with a bunch of GPS units for 12-14 hours a day (and I'm hourly so I was getting OT). It was basically a paid scavenger hunt, probably the most fun I've ever had at work. Oh, and my company says I can work part time in the winter if I want to so I can ski pretty much as much as I want.


i have a civil engineering degree but went into project management for a concrete sub. the work constantly changes for me so it's not the same thing day in and day out and it's a good balance between office time and field time. i can basically schedule when i want to be in the office or not
Oct 21 2014 4:31PM
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airplaneface
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Be an engineer. Don't go to Michigan.
Oct 21 2014 5:16PM
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Heart
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Have any of you with engineering degrees transitioned to engineering management? I'm currently a junior mechanical engineer and am beginning to loathe the idea of doing technical work day in and day out.
Oct 21 2014 6:22PM
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telecolo_
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The previous posts are more or less on point. I am working on my PhD in Geotechnical Engineering (see dirt engineering) and it isn't too harsh. Math-wise (in terms of upper level calc and such).. the difficulty fades pretty hard past most of your Freshman and Sophomore courses. Once you get into true engineering courses (Junior and Senior) the math is simple.. the concepts are more difficult.

Honestly, I think the ones who are more successful in engineering are those who get slightly worse grades but actually have a passion to continue as opposed to people who got AAA's but didn't really give a shit. So if you really want it, go for it.

Also, just another heads up.. there will be plenty of time to ski while schooling in engineering. Last season was my 3rd year in the PhD program and I still swung 76 days (CU Boulder).

Good luck!
Oct 21 2014 7:02PM
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JWoods
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ajaxGraduated from Montana State in mechanical engineering a couple years ago. I highly recommend the school. It's a great balance of skiing and school, and it's easy to get accepted as well if you are worried about that.


One thing that turned me off about Montana State (call me shallow but its true) is that during my campus tour I saw approximately 0 females that I would consider having any sort of relationship with. They offered me lots of money and I know it's a good school/close to skiing etc. but the thought of not being able to interact with attractive female coeds was a no go.

That being said if you want to meet some babes, ski and party your ass off all while being an engineer, come to the U. I'm a senior in the Chemical Engineering program and yes, while I am only taking gen eds this semester, my last semester of Junior year, arguably the most difficult semester, I was averaging 3-4 ski days a week.
Oct 21 2014 8:24PM
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E__
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Been thinking about it for a while, my buddy is going through his 2nd year and bridge program to uni and says it is difficult but you don't have to be a super genius.

The hard part is the dedication to the schoolwork, it's all about the effort you put in not your natural intelligence. I mean that helps but that's beside the point. He said basically he spent all day at school, went home and did homework or did homework with his school friends. He also said having people to study and do homework with outside of school helped tremendously.

I'm going to enrol in 2 years, I have to get skiing while young out of the way first.
Oct 21 2014 8:47PM
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juicedrummer11
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ObeseBunnyHave any of you with engineering degrees transitioned to engineering management? I'm currently a junior mechanical engineer and am beginning to loathe the idea of doing technical work day in and day out.


the real world is not like that. im a mechanical engineer and i can tell you engineering managers who don't have a solid technical degree and some technical experience suck. and over the last few months i have done like a week total of technical calculation stuff. in the real world there is much more to mechanical engineering than pencil pushing and number crunching.
Oct 21 2014 9:04PM
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Heart
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juicedrummer11the real world is not like that. im a mechanical engineer and i can tell you engineering managers who don't have a solid technical degree and some technical experience suck. and over the last few months i have done like a week total of technical calculation stuff. in the real world there is much more to mechanical engineering than pencil pushing and number crunching.


I wasn't considering a direct move to management. I was thinking of working for a few years as a technical engineer and then moving into management once I get a good feel for what it's like to be on the technical side. I just couldn't imagine myself doing that for the rest of my career. What exactly do you do other than technical calculations, if you don't mind sharing?
Oct 21 2014 11:35PM
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Scaredwhiteboy
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Why in the world would you even consider Northern Michigan? It's a terrible school academically and the winters are colder than sticking a popsicle up your butt.
Oct 22 2014 12:39AM
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