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So I have some sould riders and they are not flexy but I heard on here that his are flexy because his are broken in because of how much he flexes them. If over the summer I bent them daily, would they become very buttery?
You actually need muscle and strength to butter and press as well as Kieran, if you have scrawny legs and core you still won't be able to butter even the softest skis. Also good fitting stiff boots are hugely help because you can put way more pressure on your tips and tails with supportive good fitting stiff boots.
Just to add to my previous post just hand bending them won't break them in. You need to actually ski them and pretty much just do butter after butter and eventually they get nice and flexy.
I would not recommend bending them when you are not skiing, because they will have a shorter lifespan because of it. Instead, buttering is really about technique and strength, both things you can work on without breaking your skis. Inevitably, though, the more you ride em the more flexy they'll become.
NegromancerJust to add to my previous post just hand bending them won't break them in. You need to actually ski them and pretty much just do butter after butter and eventually they get nice and flexy.
IamIBAMI would not recommend bending them when you are not skiing, because they will have a shorter lifespan because of it. Instead, buttering is really about technique and strength, both things you can work on without breaking your skis. Inevitably, though, the more you ride em the more flexy they'll become.
What are some good leg exercises? I think I may be good, I am 125lbs but can leg press 375 as I play soccer and have to work out my legs frequently
bread-n-butterWhat are some good leg exercises? I think I may be good, I am 125lbs but can leg press 375 as I play soccer and have to work out my legs frequently
It'd not just leg strength it's general strength throughout the core and into your legs. But yeah as was said above technique is a big factor as is having a reasonably stiff boot.
Remember though if you really break in your skis you are pretty much breaking them. It's fine if you get more whenever you want but if you are buying your own it's prob not the best idea. Next time you buy skis DEMO. that way you actually know what you are getting.
Squats are good and calf raises. There's a lot of different leg exercises, swimming is great you don't really build much muscle but it does strength you quite a bit and I like it a lot because there is pretty much no impact or stress on knees or any joints.
if you are serious about gaining core strength, then do yoga. I'm not kidding about this either, yoga is a lot harder than it looks and it strengthens your core more than anything else I know.
Id say boots are more important than skis for butters, if your boots fit shitty then your heel will lift every time you try to press and you'll get nowhere.
bread-n-butterWhat are some good leg exercises? I think I may be good, I am 125lbs but can leg press 375 as I play soccer and have to work out my legs frequently
lol soccer is a pussy sport and 125 lbs wont press anything you literally need to be fatter to press
IamIBAMI would not recommend bending them when you are not skiing, because they will have a shorter lifespan because of it. Instead, buttering is really about technique and strength, both things you can work on without breaking your skis. Inevitably, though, the more you ride em the more flexy they'll become.
Come on dude we are skiers grammar is maybe not the biggest concern. I would not say that was really that bad, it read fine. At least I think it did but my written English is awful. One of the reasons I work in the ski industry haha.
PULLlol soccer is a pussy sport and 125 lbs wont press anything you literally need to be fatter to press
you're kind of right about him being too light, but its still possible if he is strong enough and his skis aren't too long.
But seriously fuck off about soccer. So many people give it shit and its just because they don't actually play it, or take it seriously if they do play it. Sure there's a lot of flopping and shit like that, get over it, all sports have floppers, no matter what sport it is. If you actually take the time to play it seriously, then you can learn to respect it, and that goes for all sports. And I can almost guarantee you that the majority of NSers that do other sports besides skiing, play soccer. I'm tired of seeing people give others shit because they think something is fun, its just like the snowboarding vs skiing shit.
/rant
Here's a little secret trick that will help you break in, or "cure" your new skis. Most pro skiers and snowboarders do this in order to properly "tune their flex" so it best suits their riding style.
1. Soak your skis in a salt bath for 48 hours. Some professional ski tuners will recommend soaking for 4-5 days but I've found that 48 hours is usually sufficient. Put 4-5 cups of iodized salt in a bathtub of warm water. Add your skis (you may need to put bricks on them so they don't float). Change the water out every 6-8 hours so it is lukewarm. If the water is cold it will take longer to soak them. Adding salt will soften the bases and allow the skis to flex more "naturally" later on.
2. Place your skis on two saw horses or two cinder blocks, biding-side up. The point of contact should be approximately 18-24" past your bindings. The further apart the saw horses the more buttery your skis will become. I usually recommend starting with 18" but you can readjust them down the line.
3. With your skis 6" apart, evenly place a cinder block in front of the toe piece of your bindings. Do the same behind the heel piece. You should notice a slight flex in your skis at this point.
4. Using a space heater, try to keep the air temp around the skis warm at all times. This will facilitate the "curing" process. Periodically spray the skis with salt water to keep them from drying out and becoming brittle.
5. Over the next 3-5 days continually add weight. Depending on your weight and how buttery you'd like your skis, you should end up with no more than 6 cinder blocks on your skis. If you're a heavier or more aggressive skier, 2-3 cinder blocks should do the trick. If you're lighter or just want really buttery skis, use 6 cinder blocks.
6. Once your skis have finished "curing", submerge the skis in a cold salt bath for another 24 hours. This will stop the curing process and restore the "pop".
7. Hand rub the bases with salt and then apply a summer wax. As always, store your skis in a cool, dry place until next winter. Enjoy having the most buttery skis on the mountain!!
Here's a little secret trick that will help you break in, or "cure" your new skis. Most pro skiers and snowboarders do this in order to properly "tune their flex" so it best suits their riding style.
1. Soak your skis in a salt bath for 48 hours. Some professional ski tuners will recommend soaking for 4-5 days but I've found that 48 hours is usually sufficient. Put 4-5 cups of iodized salt in a bathtub of warm water. Add your skis (you may need to put bricks on them so they don't float). Change the water out every 6-8 hours so it is lukewarm. If the water is cold it will take longer to soak them. Adding salt will soften the bases and allow the skis to flex more "naturally" later on.
2. Place your skis on two saw horses or two cinder blocks, biding-side up. The point of contact should be approximately 18-24" past your bindings. The further apart the saw horses the more buttery your skis will become. I usually recommend starting with 18" but you can readjust them down the line.
3. With your skis 6" apart, evenly place a cinder block in front of the toe piece of your bindings. Do the same behind the heel piece. You should notice a slight flex in your skis at this point.
4. Using a space heater, try to keep the air temp around the skis warm at all times. This will facilitate the "curing" process. Periodically spray the skis with salt water to keep them from drying out and becoming brittle.
5. Over the next 3-5 days continually add weight. Depending on your weight and how buttery you'd like your skis, you should end up with no more than 6 cinder blocks on your skis. If you're a heavier or more aggressive skier, 2-3 cinder blocks should do the trick. If you're lighter or just want really buttery skis, use 6 cinder blocks.
6. Once your skis have finished "curing", submerge the skis in a cold salt bath for another 24 hours. This will stop the curing process and restore the "pop".
7. Hand rub the bases with salt and then apply a summer wax. As always, store your skis in a cool, dry place until next winter. Enjoy having the most buttery skis on the mountain!!
^^^ Just tried this...my edges are gone. Normal?
Also have a pair of Henriks Al dente and my butter trips arnt
.squirrely.Id say boots are more important than skis for butters, if your boots fit shitty then your heel will lift every time you try to press and you'll get nowhere.
This, if your feet move around in your boot at all you cant apply the full pressure you need to the tip or tail.
Ribss.This, if your feet move around in your boot at all you cant apply the full pressure you need to the tip or tail.
A stiffer flex will help too. If you lean into the cuff and it flexes excessily you will not be able to get up on the tip and tails. You need the boot to transfer your power.
bread-n-butterWhat are some good leg exercises? I think I may be good, I am 125lbs but can leg press 375 as I play soccer and have to work out my legs frequently
this is your problem. no matter how strong you are, if you don't have any weight to throw around you're gonna have a tough time flexing anything. i'm also on the lighter side and have had the same issue before. but I've got a pair of lizzies I've been riding for like 3 seasons so they're noodly as shit now.
i'm guessing you're still growing, so just wait it out, over time you'll get heavier, the skis will break in, and you'll get better at butters (with practice of course)
Wear an xxxxxxxxxxxxxl jacket. It will be much heavier than a regular jacket and will allow you to butter much easier. Also throwing a few bricks in the pockets wouldnt hurt either
tomPietrowskiA stiffer flex will help too. If you lean into the cuff and it flexes excessily you will not be able to get up on the tip and tails. You need the boot to transfer your power.
dilla_says_goHere's a little secret trick that will help you break in, or "cure" your new skis. Most pro skiers and snowboarders do this in order to properly "tune their flex" so it best suits their riding style.
1. Soak your skis in a salt bath for 48 hours. Some professional ski tuners will recommend soaking for 4-5 days but I've found that 48 hours is usually sufficient. Put 4-5 cups of iodized salt in a bathtub of warm water. Add your skis (you may need to put bricks on them so they don't float). Change the water out every 6-8 hours so it is lukewarm. If the water is cold it will take longer to soak them. Adding salt will soften the bases and allow the skis to flex more "naturally" later on.
2. Place your skis on two saw horses or two cinder blocks, biding-side up. The point of contact should be approximately 18-24" past your bindings. The further apart the saw horses the more buttery your skis will become. I usually recommend starting with 18" but you can readjust them down the line.
3. With your skis 6" apart, evenly place a cinder block in front of the toe piece of your bindings. Do the same behind the heel piece. You should notice a slight flex in your skis at this point.
4. Using a space heater, try to keep the air temp around the skis warm at all times. This will facilitate the "curing" process. Periodically spray the skis with salt water to keep them from drying out and becoming brittle.
5. Over the next 3-5 days continually add weight. Depending on your weight and how buttery you'd like your skis, you should end up with no more than 6 cinder blocks on your skis. If you're a heavier or more aggressive skier, 2-3 cinder blocks should do the trick. If you're lighter or just want really buttery skis, use 6 cinder blocks.
6. Once your skis have finished "curing", submerge the skis in a cold salt bath for another 24 hours. This will stop the curing process and restore the "pop".
7. Hand rub the bases with salt and then apply a summer wax. As always, store your skis in a cool, dry place until next winter. Enjoy having the most buttery skis on the mountain!!
Looks like the original Volkl Wall. Those things were 2x4s...
Kieran spends a lot of time pressing into his skis, they break in, but he's also got a lot of technique for buttering and pressing and could probably butter any ski he uses.
if skis were made to be buttery they would break, the original k2 fujatives were the sickest nose buttering ski of all time!!!!
ive been begging for a ski that is different, i have even designed the sickest planks that will pop and still be buttery, but what do i know? lol
