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What's life like in NZ?

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theabortionator
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I feel like I've gathered the important aspects of kiwi life from watching FotC. Anything I'm missing?


Hopefully moving there for the winter/summer if I can snag a visa.


Who all skis down there and where all ya'lls shreddin?
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Apr 9 2014 7:56PM
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I lived there for a summer -- I was near Auckland though so no skiing while I was there. But the people were freaking fantastic. So nice. Plus it was one country I've been where the people actually thought it was cool that I was American. It was definitely a really cool place to be. You're always close to the ocean. Plus there aren't any snakes in the entire country!
Apr 9 2014 8:44PM
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NZ is definitely on my bucket list.
Apr 9 2014 8:47PM
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FunkadelicI lived there for a summer -- I was near Auckland though so no skiing while I was there. But the people were freaking fantastic. So nice. Plus it was one country I've been where the people actually thought it was cool that I was American. It was definitely a really cool place to be. You're always close to the ocean. Plus there aren't any snakes in the entire country!



Word.




Ain't nobody got time for snakes.


I've wanted to go there for ever just to go there and check it out. Getting to ski there would be awesome, getting to live there and ski for a few months would make me ridiculously happy.

I just hope I'm able to get a work visa and do it up.
Apr 9 2014 9:18PM
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i didn't live there, but i took a two and a half vacation there over Christmas last year. i was in queenstown which is on the southern island, on the shores of lake wakatipu. super beautiful place. by queenstown are the remarkables, which is a massive ski area that is really cool. you can do your own research on the skiing at each mountain. also close to queenstown is snowpark NZ among other smaller skiing locations.

one thing i want to mention is prepare to pay a lot. the cost of living there is very expensive, at least with the experience i had.housing, gas, and groceries are all pretty pricey. but it is an insanely cool place and i would love to go back.

there are tons of outdoor activities around queenstown, both for summer and winter. so its really nice to have options. interesting town and super close skiing, i think they even have a shuttle that goes up from the town. snowpark NZ is a bit further away than the remarkables, but im pretty sure that has the best park in the area.

hope i helped answer your questions. good luck making it down to NZ.

ps- fun fact: NZ is the mopst difficult country to get citizenship in
Apr 9 2014 9:32PM
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Have not seen the sun for weeks. Moa and Haast's Eagle running rampant. All hope is lost.
Apr 9 2014 9:34PM
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Sit
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I've lived here my whole life and I like to think we are pretty nice and chilled out.

The North Island, has one big ass volcano with a feild on each side and the most skiable area for one field, but the snow there is pretty sketchy and is usually icy.

Definitley head down to the South Island to ski. Wanaka is probably our 'ski town', it has Treble Cone and Cardrona right next to it (Cardrona has a pretty awesome park, and TC has some amazing terrain if the snow lets you ski it). Queenstown is another more touristy option, nestled in the middle of the southern alps too but it's probably more expensive than Wanaka.

If you're after a city then Christchurch is probably your best bet for skiing, it's halfway down the South Island and it's close to Mt Hutt which is pretty good. It's also not far from all our awesome little club feilds, which are probably where some of your best skiing will be - haven't been there in ages but I think they completely lack parks and you will want to hike to get the good stuff.

Skiing aside I guess NZ is pretty beautiful, probably spend winter in SI then head up north for summer! Hope you get here, we would be happy to have you!
Apr 9 2014 10:02PM
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-Parks-snowpark NZ


R.I.P. The + to combat high prices is high wages.

SitI've lived here my whole life and I like to think we are pretty nice and chilled out.

The North Island, has one big ass volcano with a feild on each side and the most skiable area for one field, but the snow there is pretty sketchy and is usually icy.

Definitley head down to the South Island to ski. Wanaka is probably our 'ski town', it has Treble Cone and Cardrona right next to it (Cardrona has a pretty awesome park, and TC has some amazing terrain if the snow lets you ski it). Queenstown is another more touristy option, nestled in the middle of the southern alps too but it's probably more expensive than Wanaka.

If you're after a city then Christchurch is probably your best bet for skiing, it's halfway down the South Island and it's close to Mt Hutt which is pretty good. It's also not far from all our awesome little club feilds, which are probably where some of your best skiing will be - haven't been there in ages but I think they completely lack parks and you will want to hike to get the good stuff.

Skiing aside I guess NZ is pretty beautiful, probably spend winter in SI then head up north for summer! Hope you get here, we would be happy to have you!


LOL I'm probably going to be living and riding the "sketchy" "icy" volcano you speak off. Hopefully it's not too bad. I'd like to get some different places if I can find away to travel around myself or meet anyone with a car.

Put in a good word for me with your government.
Apr 9 2014 10:18PM
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--ski--Have not seen the sun for weeks. Moa and Haast's Eagle running rampant. All hope is lost.

this is very true. Make sure you are fit, lots of running or you will get eaten. Giant Moa are the worst.

Cost of living is pretty high, but its worth it. One of the most beautiful countries in the world. You will definitely want to live in Wanaka in winter. North Island in summer.
Skiing is somewhat limited but for a season all you need is Cardrona for park and Treble Cone for most everything else.
Definitely try to come down. Good luck getting a visa!
Lived here whole life so any more questions just ask.
Apr 9 2014 10:19PM
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LOL I'm probably going to be living and riding the "sketchy" "icy" volcano you speak off. Hopefully it's not too bad. I'd like to get some different places if I can find away to travel around myself or meet anyone with a car.

Put in a good word for me with your government.[/QUOTE]

It's amazing in spring, it just gets thaw/frozen quite a lot. I'll get right onto the minister.
Apr 9 2014 10:37PM
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SitIt's amazing in spring, it just gets thaw/frozen quite a lot. I'll get right onto the minister.



Word. I ended up applying to Turoa then got kind of depressed and abandoned applying to other places and just the whole NZ idea for this year in general.

Also hear from people that some of the ski area jobs can be very tough as they get tons of applicants. Also I guess you can only have so many foreigners. One guy I was talking to said he has to hire kiwis if he hires any more park staff.

Hoping I wont have any problems getting a visa. As long as I can get a visa I have a job and I'm 100% coming. If I don't get one I guess I'm SOL.

Even if it's not my favorite season ever or doesn't really work out so well and I don't go back next year I just think it'd be awesome to give it a go once.

I've been trying to figure out a way to make this a year round career for so long. Thought about starting a small business building rails, parks and or doing consulting. Trying to get a job out on the glacier out west in the states for the summer. It just suck when you find that job you feel you're born to do, absolutely love would do it for free but you can only do it half the year. If I could shovel snow, and drag around stupidly heavy metal sculptures year round I would stoked to a possibly indescribable level.

Basically I would love to come kick it in your lovely land on the other side of the world.
Apr 9 2014 11:02PM
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They have unique traffic issues there:

Apr 9 2014 11:03PM
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Sit
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theabortionatorWord. I ended up applying to Turoa then got kind of depressed and abandoned applying to other places and just the whole NZ idea for this year in general.


Best of luck man, Turoa has really stepped up their park game recently too (I think they bring over some big dog from Squaw to shape now?). I'll be there for the start of the season so hopefully you can set up some good shit if you get through our iron-walled immigration service
Apr 9 2014 11:15PM
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--ski--Have not seen the sun for weeks. Moa and Haast's Eagle running rampant. All hope is lost.


Hahaha, I'm not sure how many people will get that but it's still pretty funny.

if you're in the Auckland Like some guy said before, you can still actually go skiing. there's an indoor park called Snowplanet, it's pretty fun if your there for a few days
Apr 9 2014 11:15PM
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there are more sheep than people on new zealand
Apr 9 2014 11:25PM
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Sit
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pow_pow~there are more sheep than people on new zealand


It's only 7:1 now, gone are the days when my harem of sheep was 20. Fucking dairy farmers ruining my wooly fun.
Apr 9 2014 11:32PM
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theabortionator
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SitBest of luck man, Turoa has really stepped up their park game recently too (I think they bring over some big dog from Squaw to shape now?). I'll be there for the start of the season so hopefully you can set up some good shit if you get through our iron-walled immigration service


Word. Probably building some new features as well. Talked about it on the phone briefly. Not sure what or how many. I'm not sure who all works there though.

Lachieif you're in the Auckland Like some guy said before, you can still actually go skiing. there's an indoor park called Snowplanet, it's pretty fun if your there for a few days


I think I'm going to be flying in and out of there so it's totally a possibility. I've never been to one of those places and the one in jersey won't be finished for another 50 or 60 years. Would be cool to tack on another experience.

Also just realized I've never shredded outside of the east coast of the USA. Also never skied a place without trees.
Apr 9 2014 11:33PM
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yo im from auckland man, send us a message if you need anything!!
Apr 10 2014 12:33AM
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-Parks-i didn't live there, but i took a two and a half vacation there over Christmas last year. i was in queenstown which is on the southern island, on the shores of lake wakatipu. super beautiful place. by queenstown are the remarkables, which is a massive ski area that is really cool. you can do your own research on the skiing at each mountain. also close to queenstown is snowpark NZ among other smaller skiing locations.

one thing i want to mention is prepare to pay a lot. the cost of living there is very expensive, at least with the experience i had.housing, gas, and groceries are all pretty pricey. but it is an insanely cool place and i would love to go back.

there are tons of outdoor activities around queenstown, both for summer and winter. so its really nice to have options. interesting town and super close skiing, i think they even have a shuttle that goes up from the town. snowpark NZ is a bit further away than the remarkables, but im pretty sure that has the best park in the area.

hope i helped answer your questions. good luck making it down to NZ.

ps- fun fact: NZ is the mopst difficult country to get citizenship in


SitI've lived here my whole life and I like to think we are pretty nice and chilled out.

The North Island, has one big ass volcano with a feild on each side and the most skiable area for one field, but the snow there is pretty sketchy and is usually icy.

Definitley head down to the South Island to ski. Wanaka is probably our 'ski town', it has Treble Cone and Cardrona right next to it (Cardrona has a pretty awesome park, and TC has some amazing terrain if the snow lets you ski it). Queenstown is another more touristy option, nestled in the middle of the southern alps too but it's probably more expensive than Wanaka.

If you're after a city then Christchurch is probably your best bet for skiing, it's halfway down the South Island and it's close to Mt Hutt which is pretty good. It's also not far from all our awesome little club feilds, which are probably where some of your best skiing will be - haven't been there in ages but I think they completely lack parks and you will want to hike to get the good stuff.

Skiing aside I guess NZ is pretty beautiful, probably spend winter in SI then head up north for summer! Hope you get here, we would be happy to have you!


theabortionatorR.I.P. The + to combat high prices is high wages.



LOL I'm probably going to be living and riding the "sketchy" "icy" volcano you speak off. Hopefully it's not too bad. I'd like to get some different places if I can find away to travel around myself or meet anyone with a car.

Put in a good word for me with your government.


^ good answer here. As for getting an visa, i think hearing about you getting in some trouble with the law in USA (maybe it was theclap or someone else) if that is so im sorry to say but your probably fucked with getting a visa, NZ is so hard to get into let alone with a criminal record. As for the skiing the volcano you speak of is sick, its my home mountain and i love it. Both sides have their advantages and disadvantages. If you working par crew you will probably be Turoa side. Turoa is good, has a very good 6 seater, but if that lift is closed then the whole field is shit. Whakapapa (other side of the mountain) has more, gnarly terrain but is filled with t bars, your choice.

My advice for NZ, dont live in auckland, pick up surfing, do the tourist stuff ( our adventure tourism is so awesome) and chill out, we are known to be chill, so just be the same and have a good time.
If you are in the north island give me a yell and ill shout you a beer
Apr 10 2014 12:34AM
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hit me up if you do get a job at turoa. I have my interview for the park crew in a view a weeks. Im a local so i will be down to sherd
Apr 10 2014 12:49AM
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Definitely hit me up if you do end up coming to snow planet, I'm keen to meet some other Newschoolers.
Apr 10 2014 1:32AM
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just say oww churrrrrrrrr bro
Apr 10 2014 7:41AM
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Life is good. Fantastic actually - just a really chill and honest place to live and grow up in. If you're heading welly or taranaki ways hit me up
Apr 10 2014 8:56AM
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theabortionator
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Bread.^ good answer here. As for getting an visa, i think hearing about you getting in some trouble with the law in USA (maybe it was theclap or someone else) if that is so im sorry to say but your probably fucked with getting a visa, NZ is so hard to get into let alone with a criminal record. As for the skiing the volcano you speak of is sick, its my home mountain and i love it. Both sides have their advantages and disadvantages. If you working par crew you will probably be Turoa side. Turoa is good, has a very good 6 seater, but if that lift is closed then the whole field is shit. Whakapapa (other side of the mountain) has more, gnarly terrain but is filled with t bars, your choice.

My advice for NZ, dont live in auckland, pick up surfing, do the tourist stuff ( our adventure tourism is so awesome) and chill out, we are known to be chill, so just be the same and have a good time.
If you are in the north island give me a yell and ill shout you a beer


No trouble here. I don't even have a speeding ticket. And yeah I'll be working Turoa. WOn't be living in Auckland just probably flying in there and then taking a bus up to the mountani and living right around there.

Is the lift you speak of closed regularly? Excessive winds or something?


Luke.88hit me up if you do get a job at turoa. I have my interview for the park crew in a view a weeks. Im a local so i will be down to sherd


Awesome! Would be sick to work with another NSer there. Let me know if you get the job.

LachieDefinitely hit me up if you do end up coming to snow planet, I'm keen to meet some other Newschoolers.


Will do. I had never heard of it but it sounds really sick. I'd love to check it out even if it's only for a half hour or something. If I make a plan maybe I can come down the day before I fly out and shred for a little bit and then fly out that night or the next day.


I bought some kiwis from the store to try and flush out my american accent.
Apr 10 2014 9:50AM
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I went to NZ when i was younger but still remember it being fucking soooooo rad. dunno much about actually living for an extended period of time there but i cant see how it would be not enjoyable. south island for skiing / mountain shit, north island for tropical paradise. good combo
Apr 10 2014 9:57AM
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theabortionator
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When does the season usually end for you guys. October ish?
Apr 10 2014 9:57AM
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I lived in Wellington for 4 years when i was 10, best time of my life, for that reason I'm spending a year abroad there
Apr 10 2014 1:33PM
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theabortionatorWhen does the season usually end for you guys. October ish?


Probably around then for Turoa. I think I've even skied November up there. And that big 6 express can close from wind quite a lot, but they do have some t-bars and non-expresses that can keep going. It's not uncommon for the whole mountain to close if it's windy up there though.
Apr 10 2014 4:38PM
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The cities are a bit odd to say the least.

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Apr 10 2014 8:54PM
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Is the lift you speak of closed regularly? Excessive winds or something?
Apr 10 2014 11:07PM
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When the six seater closes at Turoa the whole mountain turns to shit. Closes for high winds most of the time. Normally it takes them ages at the start of the season to get it set up too. When it is closed you have to ski the Giant chair, which is a very slow 3 person chair.
Apr 10 2014 11:08PM
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Bread.When the six seater closes at Turoa the whole mountain turns to shit. Closes for high winds most of the time. Normally it takes them ages at the start of the season to get it set up too. When it is closed you have to ski the Giant chair, which is a very slow 3 person chair.


Word. Hopefully the weather holds up this season. Are you going to be there this winter?


Random questions
Is it weird riding without trees?


Does anyone who live in NZ know the cell phone situation? Do they have non contract phones like straight talk or trac phone I could grab to keep in touch with people down there?
Apr 10 2014 11:55PM
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Threads for all this solid info! NZ, and the UK are on my must as far as travel is concerned, I'll make my way down there sometime in my life.
Apr 11 2014 12:26AM
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Does anyone who live in NZ know the cell phone situation? Do they have non contract phones like straight talk or trac phone I could grab to keep in touch with people down there?[/QUOTE]

You can get prepay simcards for about $20 and just load money onto it when you want to use it, sell them at most dairys/supermarkets
Apr 11 2014 1:09AM
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theabortionatorRandom questions
Is it weird riding without trees?

rocks rocks and more fucken rocks. Also ice lots and lots of ice. On the positive side their can be a big storm and the whole mountain can change, gules full up, others empty and there can be some killer huge natural step ups that are tight mad from wind blown pow
Apr 11 2014 2:03AM
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theabortionatorWord. Hopefully the weather holds up this season. Are you going to be there this winter?


Random questions
Is it weird riding without trees?


Does anyone who live in NZ know the cell phone situation? Do they have non contract phones like straight talk or trac phone I could grab to keep in touch with people down there?


Well i have been brought up without trees so no it isnt. There are rocks in its place, lots and lots of big rocks. Fun fact many companies do their endurance test for their skis at Turoa.

I am going to be riding 50/50 for both sides this season (you season pass allows you on both mountains)

For cell phones you can get sims for $5 then just have a pre pay plan. What most people are on is telecoms $19 pack, which is 100 mins of calling, unlimited texts and 500mb of data each month. you can top up every month by buying a top up at a dairy.
Apr 11 2014 2:56AM
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Word. The tree thing is going to weird me out but it'll be sick to have such a dramatic landscape change. The trees do a lot to keep the wind from killing you here but whatever. Also how the fuck do you know what trail you're on?

I'm def gonna grab a phone while I'm down there.

Only a couple months out. I cant wait to shred
Apr 11 2014 10:57AM
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what makes you think NZ will give you a visa? (serious question)
Apr 11 2014 11:10AM
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theabortionator
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HanYolowhat makes you think NZ will give you a visa? (serious question)


Idk but I'm hoping they will. It's a work holiday visa which aren't supposed to be super hard to get. I've been told by some friends that have lived there that they didn't know of anyone who got denied. I don't even have a speeding ticket.

Also I have a job and a ride from the airport to where I'm staying all lined up.

I mean there aren't any guarantees so I'm definitely a little nervous, but really hoping it all goes smooth.
Apr 11 2014 11:34AM
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Anyone know how strict they are about the minimum available funds? If you have a job set up and staff housing can you get into the country with like 2k?

Do you have to prove your funds before you go or do they stop you at immigration and say show me the money?

Anybody from other places gone there to work, or just happen to know things?
Apr 14 2014 11:53PM
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my friend's dad is from NZ

that is all
Apr 15 2014 12:01AM
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theabortionator
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dgravesmy friend's dad is from NZ

that is all


for some reason reminded me of my hero

Apr 15 2014 12:08AM
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yuckI went to NZ when i was younger but still remember it being fucking soooooo rad. dunno much about actually living for an extended period of time there but i cant see how it would be not enjoyable. south island for skiing / mountain shit, north island for tropical paradise. good combo


As a resident of the northern hemisphere that always messes with my mind that the north is tropical and the south is cold and wintery.
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theabortionatorAnyone know how strict they are about the minimum available funds? If you have a job set up and staff housing can you get into the country with like 2k?

Do you have to prove your funds before you go or do they stop you at immigration and say show me the money?

Anybody from other places gone there to work, or just happen to know things?


I emailed someone at Cardrona a while ago about these types of things and seeing how feasible it is to land a job as well as live in the area... here's the site I was referred to: http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/work/workingholiday/unitedstatesofamericaworkingholidayscheme.htm

You've probably found this yourself. But, regarding funds, currently you'd have to have about $3,700 stashed away to be accepted, but I don't know how definite that is.
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theabortionatorAnyone know how strict they are about the minimum available funds? If you have a job set up and staff housing can you get into the country with like 2k?

Do you have to prove your funds before you go or do they stop you at immigration and say show me the money?

Anybody from other places gone there to work, or just happen to know things?


So when I went in I just showed them a copy of my bank statement at the border. Not sure how strict they are, but they didn't check very well, the person actually stamped my passport wrong. I would think it would be easy to make a fake statement and get passed the boarder patrol guy, but it is pretty high consequence if you did get caught some how.
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theabortionatorAnyone know how strict they are about the minimum available funds? If you have a job set up and staff housing can you get into the country with like 2k?

Do you have to prove your funds before you go or do they stop you at immigration and say show me the money?

Anybody from other places gone there to work, or just happen to know things?


So when I went in I just showed them a copy of my bank statement at the border. Not sure how strict they are, but they didn't check very well, the person actually stamped my passport wrong. I would think it would be easy to make a fake statement and get passed the boarder patrol guy, but it is pretty high consequence if you did get caught some how.
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Matt_DSo when I went in I just showed them a copy of my bank statement at the border. Not sure how strict they are, but they didn't check very well, the person actually stamped my passport wrong. I would think it would be easy to make a fake statement and get passed the boarder patrol guy, but it is pretty high consequence if you did get caught some how.


That's because your not Asian.
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I want to go there
Apr 15 2014 8:55AM
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terraclotI emailed someone at Cardrona a while ago about these types of things and seeing how feasible it is to land a job as well as live in the area... here's the site I was referred to: http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/work/workingholiday/unitedstatesofamericaworkingholidayscheme.htm

You've probably found this yourself. But, regarding funds, currently you'd have to have about $3,700 stashed away to be accepted, but I don't know how definite that is.


Yeah. I really wish the USD didn't keep dipping off and the exchange rate was better. It's not bad but a little more would really have helped. Are you trying to go there and work this year still?

Matt_DSo when I went in I just showed them a copy of my bank statement at the border. Not sure how strict they are, but they didn't check very well, the person actually stamped my passport wrong. I would think it would be easy to make a fake statement and get passed the boarder patrol guy, but it is pretty high consequence if you did get caught some how.



True. I wouldn't give them a fake statement. Was that in an NZ account or an account where you were coming from?

I was thinking of maybe getting a loan from a friend whatever I'm short then transferring the money back once I'm set up. Maybe even once I receive my first check just to make damn sure.

Idk. I just hope I can pull it off. If needed I'm prepared to sell both my new drum sets, my tv, some other drum stuff, car, pin collection, pretty much anything I have that's worth anything to make it happen.


Hoping I can finish up some stuff at the mountain this spring instead of the fall for a little $. I won't have time in the fall anyway. Might get a part time job even dishwashing just to get some $$$ coming in.
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Mr.LemonPie
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theabortionatorWas that in an NZ account or an account where you were coming from?


I just had my last bank statement from my US account, with like $6,0000 in it.

I mean you can borrow money from a friend a few days before your flight, then transfer it back right when you get into the country if you are confident you'll be sweet with $2,000, they aren't gonna check once you get in.

I also think they may be more lenient on the $4,0000 if you have a return ticket, because then that isn't something you need to buy and it shows you will leave the country etc.
Apr 15 2014 12:40PM
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