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RparrGod damn I wish I had the motivation you guys seem to have, I never work out unless I'm rehabbing an injury
DayManMy god injuries fucking suck. Spent a while on the stationary bike today which honestly just bummed me out more because stationary bikes suck ass, and that's basically all I'll be able to do for 3 months.
Really trying to stay positive about this but it's hard when there's literally no positive side.
BenWhitwhat did you injure? Surely, you can train around it if you get creative enough.
DayManTore my labrum and rotator cuff, just had arthroscopic surgery last wednesday.
Sling till the 19th, then PT starts, and then about 4 months post-op till I can even think about any heavy activity that involves my shoulder. I've had plenty of injuries in the past but never had such a long prognosis for recovery. Counting the days till July 29th (4 month post op date) but it's just a lot of days hahah.
BenWhitThat's brutal, sorry to hear that.
Plenty of opportunity to creatively train the legs, though!
BenWhitPersonally, I think the hierarchy of fitness for application to CrossFit should be work capactiy - gymnastics skill - top-end strength. Right now, I put 70% of my time and energy into the development of work capacity and an aerobic base, and the other 30% of the time working any ancillary skills or strength. That's all you need to be really fit.
TheHamburglarThen how the heck do you train for competitive weightlifting if you only devote 30% of 45 min/day to strength? Work capacity and aerobic conditioning don't mean shit in WL if you can't pull yourself under a very heavy bar with speed, and that type of strength and athleticism usually only comes with oly specificity and repetition over time with a coach and a program. And that's not just for WL, building a big deadlift, squat, press, whatever, takes time and structure, the intensity being a manipulated variable throughout the program.
End rant, keep training hard!
TheHamburglar.
I guess I just simply fail to see how any variation of CF programming builds competitive strength in strength-based sports without dedicating much more time and frequency to training competitive lifts. There's a discrepancy between the wods at any CF gym I go to and the numbers I see in, for example, the Open in 17.3. Who the hell can snatch 265 in general on CrossFit programming, let alone under 20 minutes of extreme fatigue? I won't go into the danger aspect of that workout, but again I simply fail to see the connection between "45 minutes a day of intensity" and throwing 120 kilos overhead. coughanabolicscough
BenWhitKeep in mind, these are thoughts that I associate with my own personal goals and directed at someone that wants to do CrossFit, casually compete in CrossFit, and achieve a level of fitness that is greater than, say, 95% of the general CrossFit populous.
mirozThe first time you set goals and crush them, or make noticeable progress, I promise you'll be hooked.
TheHamburglarI drank the CF kool-aid for a couple of years and really developed strong work capacity and a solid engine, but never saw epic gains. I slowly transitioned to lifting heavy almost exclusively with little interest in GPP or competing in CF. Now I'm much stronger but my work capacity is shot, and my strength is still nowhere near competitive levels in any discipline. I'm only interested in specific strength pursuits at this point, which is funny because I'm getting L1 certified this weekend. I have many bones to pick with Castro and Glassman, but I'll have to keep my mouth shut until I have the certificate in hand.
BenWhitI love weightlifting. Deep down, I love CrossFit, but I fucking hate it everyday. It brings me to a very dark mental place in the middle of workouts at time and is both mentally and physically taxing. That's not to say that weightlifting isn't, but weightlifting is inherently exciting. At a meet, it you competing against yourself. You're alone on the platform trying to throw an ungodly amount of weight over your head. Weight that can kill you, literally. That is far more exciting that going into the pain cave doing burpees.
As for Castro & Greg Glassman; I've come to understand that Dave Castro is effectively playing a character in public. He wants to be hated and reviled because it means he is doing his job well in creating a mentally and physically challenging test of fitness. Still, he is super douchey about it. I don't like nor care to pay attention to Greg Glassman. All of his political pursuits are inherently selfish and he attempts to pass them off as if they serve the greater good. Meanwhile, he's has a beer gut and preaches to everyone about fitness. Not to mention, they raised probably north oif $500K in Open registration fees but couldn't produce a functioning leaderboard or app.
TheHamburglarAlso, we did the math at one point for the 2016 Open, which had something like 300k competitors, x $20 each, $6m alone just from registration. Fuckin' travesty!
Keep up the good work brother
BenWhitTotal: 436,663 Competitors x $20/competitors = $8,733,260. Absolutely insane. Not to mention the margin on that is probably wild.
BenWhitThat's brutal, sorry to hear that.
Plenty of opportunity to creatively train the legs, though!
DayManSo far I've been doing leg press, hamstring curls, split squats, step up type things, wall sits, calf raises, and more stationary biking than I could've ever dreamed of. Do you have any other suggestions for things that don't involve me putting anything on my shoulders or carrying anything in my right hand? I can't really jump or run yet either because they both involve the shoulder too much
Also looking for things to do for my abs, because my usual go to's are hanging leg raises, planks, and other things that I can't do with a bum shoulder
BenWhit:20 hollow hold
:20 flutter kick in hollow
:20 rest
for 10:00
DayManI don't have access to a sled, but I'm not sure I could really do that either because I still can't put on backpack straps.
Also, for lunges and split squats, does it matter if I hold a dumbbell in one hand and not the other? You mentioned being unevenly weighted but I'm just wondering if any actual problems can come out of that
BenWhitYou can put the strap around your waist when moving forward or around your back when walking backwards, especially when moving slowly. Really hammers the glutes.
How long do you anticipate not being able to hold things? I doubt it would really create any imbalances in the short term, so you could give it a try. Last night, I did some single arm front rack kettlebell hold bulgarian split squats, quite the mouthful, but they were super effective.
SlushAnyone got any tips for adding weight to my bench? I'm trying to get a lot stronger in that area and wanna be able to stack the weights on
mirozBench needs a lot of volume. Hit it at least twice per week, and each time get in at least five work sets. I typically do a heavier day (sets of 3-5) and a volume day (sets of 5-6). And then toss in other accessories as you wish.
.lenconQuestion..
Most of my lifting includes dumbells. When I'm doing bench should I twist my arms out (same motion you make when you punch)? I've kinda been doing both normal and a twisty motion, but I'm just curious as to which is better.
Also, when I do push ups I always use perfect push ups and do the twisty motion, but I mostly use those cause it hurts my wrists to do normal push ups.
PharoahThats how I have always done them. Either that of palms facing in. When your palms face down, it makes your chest work less and puts the brunt of the load on your shoulders.
PharoahThats how I have always done them. Either that of palms facing in. When your palms face down, it makes your chest work less and puts the brunt of the load on your shoulders.
DayManThe biggest thing for getting the load off your shoulders is retracting your scapula, I'm not sure how much grip affects it.
.lenconGot a job as a wildland firefighter... here comes a big boost in cardio. Hoping that we'll be able to lift, cause not being able to lift for the summer would stink.
.lenconWas not really able to lift.. so I am getting back into it. Super stoked. Starting to do a bit more yoga and what not so I can get flexible/stable.
Anyone have some favorite ski exercises they want to share while were preparing to enter the ski season:)
DayManWho else is trying to get freakin huge
DayManWho else is trying to get freakin huge
Fred_BearNot trying succeeding. Well I was but my new job and injuries are kinda slowing down my progress
BeetleJuiceI’m just getting back into it after a 2 month break..
Getting big while skiing all day/every day is tough though, that calorie burn and those sore muscles.
DayManI'm just getting back into it after a six month break. I tore up my shoulder pretty bad and had surgery which put me out until a few weeks ago. Injuries are a real bitch
Mr.Pandahttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/840272/How-To-Be-A-Powerlifter
BenWhithe almost cracked himself up with the "bar-bar binks" line. I could see the smirk growing on his face.
DayManPretty amazing how much working out can affect your mental health. Feel way better/more confident/happier when I'm hitting the gym regularly.
hey-dude-its-meDon't care if the thread goes anywhere mainly interested in an answer to the following
When lifting to failure, on the last rep, how long should I hold the weight stagnant before giving up? As long as possible or just a few seconds? I've been doing as long as possible on presses and a few seconds on pulls. Any advice?
IsitWinterYet17Going to failure is defined as not being able to do one more rep no matter how hard you try. Visualize you're life depending on that rep, but you still can't push it up. That's failure. You know it when it you reach it. I'm not talking about struggling so you stop the set early. For me, I usually give it at least a few seconds (about 5) after my momentum or movement has stopped or once the weights start to travel in the opposite directions due to exhausted muscles (e.g. Barbell back towards your chest mid rep after failing. Not being able to push it further.).
I've had plenty of sets where my last few reps were extremely difficult and moved very slowly, but I still completed the rep. That is not yet going to failure, but many people will stop a set once that occurs. Keep pushing through those reps until you truly hit the failure wall.
If I have a spotter or workout buddy, I like to hit failure and then have them give me just enough assistance to complete that rep. Then you know you've exhausted every single muscle fiber.
.lenconActually taking a spin class this semester lol
.lenconTrue. I’m super busy with school and work, but try and usually succeed with getting in a workout everyday. Actually taking a spin class this semester lol, pair that with a bit of lifting, stretching, and skiing and I’m doing okay out here. Just can’t seem to gain weight.
DayManEAT MOTHERFUCKER EAT
I'm 6'2" and lanky and have struggled with that in the past too but I just never realized the ridiculous amount of food it takes to put on weight when you're working out all the time and also tall
.lenconYeah I’m not eating enough. I eat a decent amount when I stay on top of it, but I’m just constantly moving and have a fast metabolism. Oh how horrible for me.
I am also trying to eat healthier as well. More fruits and veggies, less dark meat.
Anyone have some input on the best milk to drink? I used to drink whole milk, then slowly made it down to 1%. Kinda wanna go back to whole, but don’t mind staying away from fat, cause them abs are made in the kitchen. Should I just stick with 1%?
