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The Death Knuckle

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DBL
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The dreaded, and usually found on the east coast, Death Kuckle.
So today I died a little on a step up with the steepest of knuckles.
The death knuckle, if you did not know, is the beautiful triangle on the top of the landing that tries to kill you if you come up short.
Pics of said kuckles
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Video for reference of deadliness, broke my binding a little.

Feel free to share anything related to these deadly beasts.
inb4 thall on chads
Feb 15 2014 7:25PM
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.Rybak.
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that jump looks like so much fun. If you get enough speed.
Feb 15 2014 7:34PM
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DBL
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Speed is the issue, not enough room to fly into it
Feb 15 2014 7:56PM
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Titus69
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a few weeks ago my mountain had a hip and I tried gaping over and they tried to cover up an icy landing with an angled knuckle to a steep 20ft landing I undershot and was in deep knee and heel pain.


Feb 15 2014 8:00PM
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yangumane
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the embedded video is brutal
Feb 15 2014 8:39PM
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freestyler540
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God DAMN you took it hard. Glad to see you walk away from it.
Feb 15 2014 9:26PM
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WaffleMaster
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My biggest question is "why". Fucking, why. I've actually never seen one in person.
Feb 15 2014 9:27PM
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Substitute
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I would honestly just knock down the knuckle myself. Go up after the mountain closes and cut it up with a chain saw and then move the chunks off with a shovel.
Feb 15 2014 9:44PM
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.Rybak.
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You sound so hardkore. I wish i was like you.
Feb 15 2014 9:51PM
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Park.
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where in the east coast is that park it looks fucking sick
Feb 15 2014 10:08PM
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cornholio
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haha i thought our jumps were bad
Feb 15 2014 10:40PM
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yangumane
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Your park crew must be fucking terrible
Feb 15 2014 10:42PM
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DBL
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Brimacombe in southern ontario, park is dope except for the said step up with said knuckle. The other jumls are suprisingly floaty with smooth landings and trannys. A nice rail garden as well!
Feb 15 2014 10:54PM
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Park.
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might have to make a trip out there and to OP, dont worry I did the same thing on a step up at my mtn with a backy and broke my shoulder and have been out for a little over a month so atleast your not hurt.
Feb 15 2014 11:33PM
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edai
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not gonna lie dude that knuckle spread your asscheeks and fucked you dry like dirty hooker. Definitely work on that.
Feb 15 2014 11:36PM
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C.Apple
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Feb 15 2014 11:39PM
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wasatch_rat
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if there was about 1 or two less vertical feet of knuckle that would actually be a really sick jump. even now if you get speed it looks super fun, and even a "death knuckle" still beats coming up short on a stepdown.
Feb 15 2014 11:40PM
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Substitute
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I sounded way to serious. My b. but in all honesty who the fuck makes a jump like that?
Feb 16 2014 12:49AM
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Such_Doge
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Mini chads gap
Feb 16 2014 2:03AM
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.Rybak.
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If you could get enough speed for it that jump looks so fun.
Feb 16 2014 10:00AM
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TomWallnuss
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Honestly I don´t get all the hate for the parkcrew neither the solutions people posted

Takeoff/Landing are steep and look like shaped by Jesus himself and yeah the knuckle´s nearly a flat wall if you don´t have enough speed but how would taking down the knuckle a few feet help with that problem? If you undershoot then you´ll still hit the knuckle at the same angle...

Only solution I see is to fill up the space between kicker and knuckle with a good amount of snow or make a bigger, round knuckle
Feb 16 2014 10:11AM
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tacotom
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that lips looks stellar and then the knuckle hank as fuck. who the hell would build something that tall.
Feb 16 2014 11:37AM
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powerbong2000
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what the? The knuckle is like 5 feet from the lip.
Feb 16 2014 11:49AM
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esotericjive
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OP I feel you. East coast hills like to make knuckles bigger than the kickers, shits so sack.
Feb 16 2014 1:13PM
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elane~jib
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at a small hill on the east coast there were these 45 footers that were like slowly curved into a down and I saw only a few people not cap it.
Feb 16 2014 2:08PM
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Malcolm
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I'm pretty sure they're just not finished shaping the landing.
Feb 16 2014 4:25PM
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elinde
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Just hit the knuckle instead of the jump. You'll get the same amount of pop without danger of smashing into a triangle of death.
Feb 16 2014 5:02PM
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DBL
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Nope been like that for a week, but they are hopefully fixing it tonight! And the jump is really nice when speed right
Feb 16 2014 5:12PM
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theabortionator
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That jump looks awesome. Don't speed check so much next time.


Feb 16 2014 6:07PM
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84891jnf92048
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Didn't that Derek Spong crash result in a ruptured aorta and nearly death?
Feb 16 2014 8:22PM
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Triple_Strum
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My solution would be to fill slightly and move the landing toward the take off by about 2 feet. Also, landing needs to be just a tidge flatter and longer. I think that is a pretty poor jump. A jump is well built when you don't have to be EXACT with speed, but just pretty close to perfect. That jump is no dice. We obviously saw what happens short. If he has just a few mph more he would be in the gucci plateau.
Feb 16 2014 9:23PM
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tdollo
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This
Feb 16 2014 9:30PM
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theabortionator
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Yea another inch forward and he would have overshot the mountain entirely right?. Pretty much all jumps suck to come up short. You don't need exact speed to hit most jumps but if you case them it's going to suck. I'm would think most people are clearly it fine if they haven't adjusted it. Also making the landing flatter would just be dumb.
Feb 16 2014 9:48PM
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Triple_Strum
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Ahh your sarcasm is totally lame. It is sad you couldn't use some constructive thought.

Of course all jumps suck to come up short. However, you can build them intelligently in a way that creates a lower risk and greater probably of landing correctly. And making the landing a less exaggerated angle would only slightly increase the impact of the landing while creating a lot of space. And don't say things without basis or critical thinking. I am not just making this up, but speaking as a former physics teacher.
Feb 16 2014 9:52PM
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elinde
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Nah he's right. What's the point of having a steep landing on a step up anyways? The point of one is that you are falling less vertical distance, and because of that the landing doesn't need to be steep to cushion your fall.

Also if you look the guy didn't speed check at all.
Feb 16 2014 10:02PM
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theabortionator
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Doesn't look that ridiculously steep or short. I understand the concept of the step up.


And if he didn't speed check maybe he needs to learn how to pop. Also have no idea what video you guys are referring to as I don't see one in the thread.

More interested to see how other people are hitting it. My guess is most of them are landing nice and soft in the sweet spot.
Feb 16 2014 10:11PM
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theabortionator
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Oh sick. Jumping right into the "oh look at my qualifications bro.

Speaking as someone who got a higher score than you on the SAT's. (TahoeRondo can vouch for me)
Feb 16 2014 10:13PM
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DBL
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Everyone hitting the jump is having speed issue's. No one has gone past 5ft of the knuckle. I did mess up on the pop a little there, not getting the correct amplitude. But today I managed some rodeo 5's, just squeaking it around. Fun jump, low impact, unless you come up short.
Feb 16 2014 10:17PM
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theabortionator
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Just watched the video in your vids section. Def doesn't look like anything people are taking long which really makes the physics teachers arguments invalid. Def looks like something that sucks to come up short on especially if you're upside down but a lot of step ups can be funky for inverted spins.
Feb 16 2014 10:22PM
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DBL
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I enjoy the lip, very poppy and feels nice for flats/rodeos. Straight spins are death on it
Feb 16 2014 10:25PM
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deepvoice
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yea that take off might be poppy, but you need to pop more
Feb 16 2014 11:14PM
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Substitute
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Your just mad cause rusty got you in the ass.
Feb 16 2014 11:22PM
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Triple_Strum
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Not mad at all. Just slightly annoyed as the juvenile lack of thought. Had he made good points I would have listened. Instead he sounded like an uneducated 14 year old, despite claiming a high SAT score.
Feb 16 2014 11:27PM
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Substitute
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Hey! I take no offence to being a 14 year old. But in all seriousness this is a thread on a website about 1 jump. Why we bringing SAT scores and shit into it?
Feb 16 2014 11:32PM
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Triple_Strum
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I didn't say anything about them, he brought up how smart he was. I was merely using my past experience to show that there was merit behind the thoughts.
Feb 16 2014 11:42PM
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Substitute
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I passed 5th grade. My parents are throwing me a party.

Anyway. I get what your saying and thats a good way ro put it.
Feb 17 2014 12:02AM
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crawf635
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My buddy knuckled it pretty hard on his snowboard didn't speed check on any of the jumps and still bounced about 5ft off the knuckle
Feb 17 2014 12:18AM
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Karma_Police
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Good, i can finally sleep happy tonight.
Feb 17 2014 12:26AM
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theabortionator
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It's from another thread. And only mentioned it because you jumped right into "you're dumb I'm a physics teacher".

Also you seem kind of mad. Considering one of your big points was flattening the landing yet OP even said nobody is overshooting it.
Feb 17 2014 8:04AM
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theabortionator
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You don't know what you're talking about. Does it look like that park was built with little amounts of snow. Second I highly doubt the operator is "uneducated in terrain park building". Look at the setup below this jump.

People just need to pop more. If you really can't get enough speed I could see taking it down a little bit but sounds like people are clearly it and OP said he was floating rodeos over it.
Feb 17 2014 8:07AM
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