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Semi-Official Olympic Snowboard Slope Thread

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cheaaaaaa
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Lets talk about some snowboarding
Feb 6 2014 1:51AM
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DIX~
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it was similar judging at x...
Feb 8 2014 11:38AM
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HappySoda
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You mean this guy? apparently its Roope Tonteri's Finnish team mate but it was pretty weird watching someone knitting on top of the slope
Feb 8 2014 11:47AM
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corona
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uhm. no? not at all.

at x-games the triples won over style. at Sochi style won over triples. simple as that.


I'm really happy style won here, but it's a total bummer for athletes who have made it here based on technicality and are throwing down a run expecting technicality to win.

Then the athletes only clue in AFTER McMorris gets butt fucked on the most technical run, so then they go more for style instead and score well.


I think they should have made it clear they're not looking for triples since it did go in a completely different direction from all competitions leading up to this event.



Now I'm excited for skiing. If they're scoring the same way Harlaut and Wells will be right at the top.
Feb 8 2014 11:51AM
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corona
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I also can't wait for the shit storm that's going to happen regardless of the results.
Feb 8 2014 12:03PM
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Chewy.
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Well the coaches meet with the judges. The judges go over how they'll be scoring and what they're looking for. So the athletes may have been warned hucking triples won't just win it. I'm personally stoked to see the most stylish rider in competitive snowboarding get rewarded. It's also nice to see the rail section actually counting. It seems like at X the skier rails were much more important in scoring than for the boarders. But anyways, Go Sage, Go America. Cool. Hot. Yours. Whatever the fuck that means.
Feb 8 2014 12:05PM
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cheaaaaaa
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mcmorris had trips on lock yet obviously lacked the grabs. Where as I feel life goepper still has the grab variety to hold it down. That dub wit the death grab, for example, should help him keep his score up even with 2 trips.

if i had to bet money Id still put it on goepper. but I'm really pulling for woodsy and andreas.
Feb 8 2014 12:10PM
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corona
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read this:

http://snowboarding.transworld.net/1000220900/news/sage-kotsenburg-wins-olympic-slopestyle-sochi-2014/


the judges clearly didn't express what they were going to be doing very well, since it was only after McMorris's run that the athletes clued in that triples won't win so they did less technical more stylie tricks.
Feb 8 2014 12:11PM
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d-rok
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the judging was sort of shit, but one things for sure if snowboarding is any indication of how skiing will be, The runs should be gnarly
Feb 8 2014 12:23PM
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Chewy.
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Regardless, shouldn't style beating the same run we've been seeing for two years be a good thing? The fact Sage tweeks his grabs but still gets the rotation is crazy. That back Japan 1620 is still really technical and looked way cooler than a trip mute in my opinion.
Feb 8 2014 12:23PM
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B.Fantana
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I have no problem if style beats rotation but his run wasn't perfect and shouldn't have scored as high as it did in comparison to the others.
Feb 8 2014 1:06PM
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t_rob
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Feb 8 2014 1:20PM
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icon1234
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where can I watch this?

help plzzz
Feb 8 2014 1:27PM
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blindside
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Stoked for Sage, his run was bad ass. Ya I think he was a bit over-scored, and ya there was a lot of pretty questionable judging going on, but that's what judging is and that's a big part of why I'll always prefer the non-competitive side of things. Still an awesomely entertaining event, can't wait for skiing now!

And CBC has a replay of the whole final on their website.
Feb 8 2014 1:54PM
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manero
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Yes Sage !!! make a difficult grab in double these more difficult than making a triple with a mute

Feb 8 2014 3:12PM
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JakobS
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The judging was really shitty on the snowboard finals.

Sven Thorgren was robbed from a medal, and Norwegian Staale Sandbech should have the won.


Yeah Sage's run was really dope, but he should not have been on the podium. SERIOUSLY, HOW THE HELL CAN YOU GIVE THE OLYMPIC GOLD TO SOMEONE WHO VERY OBVIOUSLY PUT DOWN HIS HAND IN A LANDING??

Not really throwing shit on Sage, because his run was the one I liked the best. It's that a judging misstake like this is not acceptable in this level of competition, even if his run was the most unique one.
Feb 8 2014 3:33PM
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JakobS
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I would have putted it 1. Staale 2. Mark and 3. Sven
Feb 8 2014 3:34PM
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theBearJew
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Anyone know where I can watch it in the US? CBC won't play for America.
Feb 8 2014 3:37PM
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c4t_l0ver
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any videos of the top 3 runs? cant find anything and im dying to see
Feb 8 2014 3:37PM
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mski
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How can they call it the world stage when it doesn't include the internet
Feb 8 2014 4:28PM
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t_rob
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This means that costas will be interviewing Sage tonight, right? Between White pulling out and Jackass comments, it could potentially be awesome although I doubt either are going to be brought up.
Feb 8 2014 4:34PM
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Pitolairas
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Yeah, judging was wacky. All in all I'm just happy Mcmorris didn't take the win, I can't stand that guy.
If sage didn't have that BIG hand drag, the gold would've been well earned (it actually was cause his run was the sickest with those grabs and rail section was really creative). But 1st place with a hand drag?
I hope skiing's judging is going to be better, but I know it's not gonna happen.
Feb 8 2014 4:41PM
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Drail
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Judging made the whole thing borderline uncredible. Style, or "originality" being judges higher than technicality sure is a good way to stop progression. It's subjective, and when you figure out what style te judges prefer, that's the style everyone will emulate to try and win. Capping progression and using a defined style to determine highest score. Sounds a little firmiliar to me.

On top of that, deciding to do so in the middle of an event, without letting the riders know beforehand. It's rubbish. Also, people were bailing a lot in finals tryin tricks just a bit harder than they were comfortable with. Wacky inconsistent judging combined with a lot of incomplete runs made snowboard slope look like it wasn't ready for the Olympics.

I just hope ski slope is more successful at presenting itself on the world stage, cause I think boarding blew it, big time.
Feb 8 2014 5:25PM
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bryanw
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this please
Feb 8 2014 5:55PM
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johnk
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Feb 8 2014 6:05PM
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luc
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since mr white gets a 100 with a handrag, i think two handrags totally deserve olympic gold!
Feb 8 2014 6:25PM
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ski0
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Honestly I think Kotsenburg has just as much technicality as McMorris. Doing a technical grab can be just as hard as getting an extra invert. The judges said that triple underflips will not be scored well. He also had an extra 180 of spinning compared to Mark.
Feb 8 2014 6:30PM
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CrotchKiller
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this is honestly my favorite image from sochi yet.
Feb 8 2014 6:33PM
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Abu_Hajaar
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Video of winning run?
Feb 8 2014 6:41PM
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stupendous-man
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Where is dat replay at. even just a cellphone vid of your computer screen
Feb 8 2014 6:43PM
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sNaubi
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If my fast connection, but tiny fucking bandwidth, will let me, the gold run will be up now or later/tomorrow(sunday)
Feb 8 2014 7:25PM
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sNaubi
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my upload says 19mins left, holy balls... but it will be up
Feb 8 2014 7:43PM
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DIX~
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Thanks mane
Feb 8 2014 8:02PM
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DIX~
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http://olympics.cbc.ca/videos/live/video/men-snowboard-slopestyle-finals-webcast.html

This works for Canadia
Feb 8 2014 8:06PM
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sNaubi
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here you go guys


Feb 8 2014 8:20PM
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Frediboy94
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Anyone see women's slope finals? One chick wrecked a 7 so hard that she broke her helmet on the first jump of the second run. I don't remember her name, but she was in the lead after run 1. Shit was probably the gnarliest crash I've seen in a women's comp ever. She got up after a while and rode away, but I'm pretty sure she got herself a severe concussion. Anyone have a vid of this to embed/news on how she's doing?
Feb 9 2014 11:53AM
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Foolproof
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That was Šárka Pančochová from Czech Republic. Her doktor did some MRI and other stuff and said she is OK. She even did interview with our (Czech) TV few minutes after crash.
Feb 9 2014 1:04PM
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Foolproof
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Wow :D Sarka Pancochova. Newschoolers forum don't like our special letters.
Feb 9 2014 1:07PM
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Mr_pretzel
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This so much.

Everyone was going down. My dad said "These guys suck, nobody can land anything" and he atleast has some insight, to people with no knowledge of the sport that was an awfull portrail.

Really i felt like nobody should have won. It was so jumbled and lame, the qualifing was awesome, the final sucked.
Also, seeing stale safe his last run was super lame. I see why he did it, but it was still lame.
Feb 9 2014 2:24PM
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ButteredToast.
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Yeah, I have no problem with how they were judging, I have a problem that they didn't tell anyone and just let the riders figure it out when they received scores...
Feb 10 2014 11:00AM
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cheaaaaaa
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how do you know they didn't tell anyone???????????

from what I heard (maybe on this thread?) they meet with the coaches and tell them what their looking for
Feb 10 2014 12:21PM
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Drail
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it is kind of mentioned in this article:

http://snowboarding.transworld.net/1000220900/news/sage-kotsenburg-wins-olympic-slopestyle-sochi-2014/
(which was posted earlier in this thread)


and, as the comments of that article, and some comments in here point out. The judging was inconsistent from qualifiers to finals.

Sage threw a similar run in qualifiers as he did in finals, the quali run didn't score him high enough to get a spot in the finals, but when he threw a similar run with a 1620 off the last jump, it's a gold metal run.

Max threw a run in qualifiers that got him a 97 and top spot going into finals. In finals he threw a similar run but with a clean, stomped triple off the last jump and got a 87 and 5th place.

That is some pretty fucked up judging all within one event (imo).

Feb 10 2014 12:49PM
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ButteredToast.
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There was some discussion on it earlier.

Also it was quite obvious from some of the athletes (especially McMorris) judging by their reactions upon seeing their scores. Lots of "What...?" reactions going on.

That led to so many of the wipeouts you saw. Athletes were figuring out that judging was different and changing up their runs to try to please the seemingly haphazard judging format. They had no idea style would be so heavily favored, which is unfortunate.

Feb 10 2014 4:33PM
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cheaaaaaa
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the only thing that surprised me in terms of judging was how easily people got away with hand drags on their landings. I almost wonder if they were being more leaneant on that due the (alleged) flat/harsh landings.

from what i heard the riders got some sort of intel on what the judges were looking for. and I don't really trust mcmorris' comments after seeing a few of his interviews, he sounded kinda bitchey, conceited, and d bagish to be honest.
Feb 10 2014 4:53PM
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lukaturtle
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I really just don't get it. I think there's something weird going on. As much as most people on newschoolers hate airialist robots in these comps : HOW THE FUCK CAN A RUN WITH TWO TRIPPLES AND A DOUBLE LOOSE TO A RUN WITH ONE DOUBLE AND TWO HAND TOUCHES. I don't know why that even bugs me. I don't really watch snowboarding much anyways.
Feb 10 2014 8:44PM
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