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Can these be fixed/ Frontflip help

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-WZ-
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So last weekend i was learning frontflips with a friend and i bent the back tips of my skis :/
On a side note i kept trying frontflips and landed one but i was wondering if you guys could give me more tips besides a better tuck (i completely missed the grab in the gif below) this is also the attempt where i bent the tips. So first off, can the skis be salvaged? And second, frontflip advice :) Thanks NS!

Gif of my attempt:
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And this is what the skis look like:
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Dec 16 2013 10:47PM
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270on420out
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1. Loosen your dins.
2. Try the kick one leg back/stomp with the other setup when you go to flip
3. Go to your shop and see what they can do
Dec 16 2013 10:51PM
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booniemon
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holy fuck to the skis, and yah you just gotta huck it
Dec 16 2013 10:52PM
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Mr.LemonPie
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I mean your arms flail against your rotation in the gif. I can't really think of anything that went right with that one...Take it back to the tramp maybe?

And your skis aren't in good shape, if you take them into a shop they can probably do something with it and make it a bit better but really just be glad it's just the tip of the tail and it won't mess with your ski that much.
Dec 16 2013 10:55PM
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skiingizkewl
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First off idk how that happened to your skis by doing a front flip, but i bet if you can bend the edges back to where they were then get some epoxy to fix the delamination and a clamp it should be better than it is now. Hope this works.
Dec 16 2013 10:56PM
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nine50seven
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I would say pop more for sure. Try popping up and forward like a small superman front but suck the knees up fast I may be wrong but that's when it looks like ppl who do good ones do.
Dec 16 2013 10:56PM
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wasatch_rat
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the trick with frontflips is to really get a good pop forward, then tuck, you can't just jump and throw your head towards your wang. try lifting up one foot before takeoff, then right as you're going to pop, stomp that foot down and leap forward off of it swan dive style and get a good look at the landing, then tuck. if you pop like you did just you kill your flipping momentum trying to fight the angle of the jump. foward dive, then tuck, the more you actually feel your tips nollieing off the lip the faster you can flip.

and i think those skis are totally still skiable
Dec 16 2013 11:00PM
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FroesenSkeeze
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I have the same problem as you, frontflip wise. I have no idea what to do about the skis except offer my condolences :'(

Obviously, you need more momentum, so:
1) Either huck and tuck harder, or
2) Throw one foot back to set and speed up the rotation.

The "knuckle frontflip" technique would probably work the best seeing as you are going straight off without any lip. Personally, I'm not a fan of frontflips cause I always land backseat and destroy my shins.

Good luck

Dec 16 2013 11:01PM
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-WZ-
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Thanks for all of the quick replies! Im going to a shop tomorrow and hoping they can bend the metal back and epoxy them

as for front flips, on the attempt that i landed i definitely popped a lot more so ill focus on that. Also i go to a trampoline place on fridays now so ill practice the tuck there this upcoming weekend
Dec 16 2013 11:04PM
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Pitolairas
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Most common mistake is setting the front flip as a "dick suck". Instead, you should set it like a superman with the pop and then dip your head and tuck your knees. That's how I finally learned fronts! Hope it helps.
Dec 16 2013 11:08PM
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BROLF
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Your not using your skis at all, lean forward and pop off your skis. dont just huck your arms and tuck
Dec 16 2013 11:11PM
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suup
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your skis are goners
Dec 17 2013 1:26PM
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sNaubi
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perfect for op, prop the same age as well.


Dec 17 2013 3:42PM
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GreenStezz
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I would have to concur.........................
Dec 17 2013 3:48PM
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Dr.Dickless
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This, more pop, and it looks like you should have popped earlier, I really like that you made a gif out of it for easy viewing
Dec 17 2013 4:57PM
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Park.
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that "instructional" video only tells you bad form..
Dec 17 2013 5:14PM
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milk_man
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I'd say keep skiing on them until you can't anymore. It's the back tips so it probably won't affect much except for tail butters. As for the front flip, you need to bend your knees right after you throw it. Tuck your knees in instead of tucking your face to your stomach!
Dec 17 2013 5:21PM
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sNaubi
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I know wasn't meant to be taken seriously, but it has the fundamentals of a frontie, i.e. lean back to get longer room for momentum, lean forward fast to build up rotation, and finally, tuck.
Dec 17 2013 6:45PM
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TNORTS
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leaning back before a frontflip=bad form.
Dec 17 2013 6:51PM
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PKchu
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Epoxy your tails. Then put a heavy duty screw through them, cut it at the base, and sand it. Leave it in a clamp too. Used to work for me
Dec 17 2013 6:52PM
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caderobinson
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Yessir
Dec 17 2013 7:42PM
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-WZ-
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Went to the shop today and they said its gunna cost $100. is it worth it for $200 skis?
theyre gunna dry out the core, bend the metal back and epoxy them
my question is how well will this fix hold up? they told me that if i kept riding them the core would rot because its exposed to the snow...

my frontflips still suck :P
Dec 17 2013 8:33PM
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sNaubi
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I know it's bad, but it makes it easier, no?
Dec 18 2013 9:08AM
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closeyetfar11
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Are you serious with $100?? What shop did you take the skis to? Please let us know where to never bring anything, ever.

Here's what you need:
-Heat gun
-Vice-grips
-Industrial strength two part epoxy
-Popsicle sticks for epoxy gooping
-Some metal plates
-bunch of C-clamps, or spring clamps. I prefer C-clamps, as they give the user more control over pressure.
-appx 36-48 hours

I'll let you take it from there.
Dec 18 2013 10:39AM
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CrotchKiller
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no it honestly doesn't
Dec 18 2013 10:50AM
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KingTaco
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idk mane frontflips are a shitty trick. i really struggle with popping when a lip doesnt provide much pop. its the one trick I would never do off a huge booter
Dec 18 2013 8:21PM
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Just_Send_It
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this is why you never buy surface kids
Dec 18 2013 8:30PM
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blazer258
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not even surface. there joystick's
Dec 18 2013 9:07PM
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wasatch_rat
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i know its way scarier, but the more you leap forward in a dive motion the faster you will flip. check out the frontflips at :53, they had about the same amount of airtime as you, but they get it around because they get a good pop off of their noses and leap forward before tucking.
Dec 18 2013 9:07PM
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TNORTS
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joysticks are made by surface
Dec 18 2013 9:36PM
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perryhunter
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Oh no! Wrong frontflip, or just too low! I don't think if it could be fix by a ski shop, better bring it there.
Dec 18 2013 10:12PM
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