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Banned Super Bowl XLVIII Ad.

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Dobies.
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Have any of you guys heard about this? I'm just curious what the general consensus on NS is. Apparently, the NFL has banned this Super Bowl ad from this seasons game. Personally, I don't see whats wrong with the video. There's some guys response attached to the end of the video.
Dec 3 2013 5:33PM
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S.M.G
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This guy has got a solid argument and there's nothing wrong socially with the commercial but it's creepy as hell
Dec 3 2013 5:38PM
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Dobies.
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yeah i understand the nfl is a private company and can do whatever they want but still...
Dec 3 2013 5:49PM
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booniemon
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now that I know the stance of the NFL, I will protest by not watching...... who am I kidding, the doritos commercials are the shit
Dec 3 2013 6:02PM
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shibby
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that commercial is dumb as fuck. guy ranting at the end is dumb as fuck. that kind of shit has no place being aired on tv. thats how the world is going to end, when everyone believes that shyte about others being out to get them and guns being the answer
Dec 3 2013 6:10PM
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Phil-X-
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Bogus, we need more people to see that most registered firearm owners are regular family people and not terrorists or gang members
Dec 3 2013 6:18PM
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Dobies.
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the world IS a bad place. people ARE out to get others.
Dec 3 2013 6:20PM
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Spagett+
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Why do black people always
Make response videos!?!
Dec 3 2013 6:39PM
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Ben.
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Yup.
Dec 3 2013 6:50PM
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Daski
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I am an ardent supporter of gun-control, I believe nothing good can come of giving out guns to everyone (blah, blah, safety issue, blah, blah), but this guy has a concise, respectable, spot-on argument for letting the commercial air. I am totally against guns, but this commercial should be allowed to air.
Dec 3 2013 6:59PM
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MNS
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I'm indifferent with gun control. But I will say that when you go travelling, that would be a time where i'd want some form of protection, and you can't really travel with guns.

Sometimes to me, this whole issue of guns for personal protection seems like a solution for a problem that shouldn't be so large in the first place. Given that some people feel the need to strap a glock on their belt every morning because they don't feel safe seems to me as a testament to the security of a country or city. I would never consider carrying a weapon around with myself.

Not to mention, most the people I know that are into guns enough to be stoked on carrying them everywhere they go all seem to be the people i'd be least comfortable with having guns.

But yea, i'm indifferent. The problem isn't to do with guns. It's to do with stupid people, and I don't foresee a sterilization act coming into place anytime soon haha.



Dec 3 2013 7:10PM
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.Duncan.
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Thats cool, I just bought a daniel defense complete upper the other day.
Dec 3 2013 7:21PM
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Anathema
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i think its because no one in the states accepts ownership for what happens as a result of gun violence and the network doesnt want to bear any responsibility.

if someone gets killed, everyone points the finger at the weapon, not the person. so not the family that produced the crazy kid, but daniel defense who put a gun in his hands. and then the nfl network or whoever airs this kind of commercial is automatically guilty by association and could catch some flak as a result.

so in order to protect themselves, they say fuck that shit. no gun advertisement on our network.

or something?

i dont know a thing about daniel defense, but i can see why the network would ban such a commercial. you dont want to give anybody a reason to point the finger in your general direction.

does my logic make sense? that's all that i can really come up with...
Dec 3 2013 7:34PM
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Wallisch_pl
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It implies that he's using the product to kill/injury people, that's why it was banned
Dec 3 2013 7:35PM
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Blurst
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Why the fuck would the NFL ever air this? Its like airing cigarette commercials, advertising murder.
Dec 3 2013 7:46PM
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k-rob
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the black guy that got murdered for looking for help after his car crash was a football player.
Dec 3 2013 7:55PM
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bakedpow
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i can see why the ad was banned. if i was a business like the nfl i would not air that either.
Dec 3 2013 7:59PM
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987321654hgfd
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Colion Noir is the man. Always makes good, logical points in all his videos and is now a spokesperson for the NRA. Kind of bullshit that this commercial was banned but it does skate the line of the NFL's policy. However I do think more commercials like this need to be seen. People need to be aware that they are responsible for their/their families own safety.
Dec 3 2013 7:59PM
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danderson.
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Yeah, and they banned a Pornhub commercial so the NFL clearly does NOT know whats up.
Dec 3 2013 8:01PM
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Spagett+
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Porn is so cool. I like seeing all the naked ladies and stuff. While I am not a fan of the penis I will always like porn.
Dec 3 2013 8:02PM
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danderson.
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Dec 3 2013 8:10PM
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UphillIce
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I would guess Daniel Defense never planned to actually pony up the several million dollars that it would cost to run a Super Bowl ad. They knew it wouldn't pass muster, so they submitted it, had it rejected, and now are gaining from the publicity of saying "We're being repressed!".

Now I'd probably let it run if I were in charge of the network, but I doubt anyone on either side ever really expected it to.
Dec 3 2013 8:59PM
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Dobies.
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from what i've read that company has plenty of money. i actually heard the ceo on the satellite radio into work today and it sounded like he was really trying to get this commercial aired. they even agreed to remove the firearm in the logo.
Dec 3 2013 9:37PM
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40oz.
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Great commercial, guy at the end is legit, this world is a fucked up place (just look at the girl who killed another girl over the alabama football lose, or the lady who killed three people for the last xbox, and I could go on for days). I will carry a concealed weapon for the rest of my life with my permit, I will have guns at my house for protection and enjoyment in hunting, I will obey all laws that come with those freedoms. But if you try to take that freedom away from me with your gun control bullshit you will never win.
Dec 3 2013 9:46PM
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40oz.
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Oh that's what it implies??? No your wrong, it implies that if someone try's to hurt him or his family on his private property he will defend them to the best of his ability, if he feels his life is in immediate danger and may be taken by another human being he has the right to stop that from happening.
Dec 3 2013 9:49PM
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987321654hgfd
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Obama is the greatest gun salesmen of all time and DD makes great products.
Dec 3 2013 9:51PM
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chacha33
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I don't know what to think any more. I'm all for the people owning firearms and I have a couple myself. But I don't know how many people could claim to be the same way then drop a mothafucka for doing nothing.

I guess I just don't want anymore trayvon martin cases
Dec 3 2013 9:58PM
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40oz.
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I agree and I hope no one wants more of that, but it's a sick fucked up world so I know there are still people out there who kill for the hell of it. And I would never wish anyone into a situation where they are forced to use their weapons on another human being to protect themselves or their family, but gun control certainly is the answer.
Dec 3 2013 10:02PM
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coling
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I dont see anything wrong with this comercial
Dec 3 2013 10:06PM
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UphillIce
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They may very well may. But Daniel Defense has 23million in revenue (revenue, not profit), and Super Bowl ads this year are supposed to be running around 4 million dollars for 30 seconds (maybe a bit cheaper if you're willing to air late in the game). 

That would be one GIGANTIC risk for a company of that size to buy an ad that expensive. Now maybe they are making huge margins (or maybe the info I found on the internet is wrong), but it seems like an odd thing to go through with to me.
Dec 3 2013 10:09PM
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Mr.LemonPie
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I think this is probably the reason they denied it. I mean really has anyone ever seen a gun ad on TV? And whoever was making the point about the finances of the company was right too, how could they possibly afford it? It almost seems like they made this commercial so it would get banned and then talked about...

I just can't believe we live in a world where people think they need assault rifles for self defense.
Dec 3 2013 10:34PM
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40oz.
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What if I am a millionaire and have a nice house, money on my premise, nice car, etc. Enough that a group would come to kill and steal my stuff, you think I could defend my house and family with a pistol that holds 9 rounds? And obviously that situation has very low odds of happening but why do you care what type of gun someone has as self defense. A pistol or shotgun kills just like an assault rifle so why does it matter?
Dec 3 2013 10:42PM
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987321654hgfd
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Well daniel defense doesn't make assault rifles and assault rifles are illegal for the average person to own.

When things like this, http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/elderly-couple-robbed-gunpoint-7-men/nb9SK/, stop happening then a semi automatic rifle will not be needed for home defense. Until then it is useful.
Dec 3 2013 10:43PM
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40oz.
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Exactly!
Dec 3 2013 10:45PM
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will_powder
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Not to mention the fact that this ad is pretty sexist and patriarchal. But then again I guess that's the type of guy who watches the NFL....
Dec 3 2013 10:55PM
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Mr.LemonPie
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They sell assault rifles though don't they? Or what else am I seeing when I go to their webpage? Is a semi-automatic rifle not an assault rifle?

And I don't know, I just don't think it is prudent to worry about being robbed by seven gunman...I mean really? That just seems like living in fear. I mean honestly I cannot think of a single situation in my present day life where I would want to have a gun.
Dec 3 2013 11:03PM
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40oz.
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It's not living in fear at all, I'm not scared of shit. But if you don't think you could get killed or robbed doing something like shopping at a store or similar situations than you aren't being exposed to the world we live in enough.
Dec 3 2013 11:09PM
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987321654hgfd
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"An assault rifle is a selective fire (selective between semi-automatic, automatic and/or burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine."

"a rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use."

Like I said before it is very very hard for the average person to acquire and automatic weapon. I don't live in fear I just really enjoy shooting my AR15 and after recreational purposes it can serve as a potential self defense weapon.

Dec 3 2013 11:12PM
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life_is_hood
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If you honestly believe that a gun ban will help, then you're a fucking retard.
Criminals don't give a shit about the law and will have guns anyway while law abiding citizens will not.

Also, the city with the strictest gun control laws in the country (chicago) also happens to have the highest rate of gun related crimes and shootings. weird how that works, aint it?
Dec 3 2013 11:16PM
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40oz.
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Boom! Actually agree with this kid for once
Dec 3 2013 11:21PM
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shibby
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the world is not as fucked up as crazies like you love to believe. actually i would bet that we are at the "safest" point in human history. but no, you guys like to puke out some retarded scare narrative to justify stupid behaviour and stupid institutions like police states, nsa or fucking gun commercials during one of the most watched tv events of the year

dude in the video is a total wanker too. i cant be arsed to rewatch it but he is trying to compare gun advertising to beer and shit like that, one is harmless - the other facilitates evil
Dec 3 2013 11:26PM
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.Duncan.
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Yeah dude you're right, alcohol has never caused any problems when used improperly.

Also you beside cirillo really need to think through your arguments a bit better before posting, I'm as pro-gun as it gets but you're posting some really stupid shit.
Dec 3 2013 11:30PM
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987321654hgfd
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We probably are, but that doesn't mean bad things still can't happen. I really don't get why that's so hard for some people to understand. Cars are safer than they've ever been but people still seem to wear seat belts in case of an accident.

And quite the opposite of this. A police state would want every gun confiscated so they have complete control. I know most gun owners are completely against all this bullshit and have realized that they are responsible for their own protection.

You know what the easiest way to stop someone who has a gun from harming you? Having your own gun. Police aren't just going to appear at the scene to rescue you.

I'm assuming you're not even from the states so why don't you just stay in your gun hating country and I'll stay here.


Dec 3 2013 11:35PM
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40oz.
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When people kill people over an xbox or who lost a fucking football game or people who kill homeless people for fun or those who play the knockout game for fun or people who rob old couples and so on you can't say the world isn't full of crazies. Those examples don't even scratch the surface. And if you think alcohol kills less people than guns then I feel sorry for you.
Dec 3 2013 11:38PM
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40oz.
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Yes!
Dec 3 2013 11:39PM
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40oz.
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Even more yes!
Dec 3 2013 11:39PM
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.Duncan.
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Go look at the numbers dude, making stupid statements like this doesn't help anyone considering that in 2010 more people were victims of homicide involving guns than those killed in drunk driving related crashes.
Dec 3 2013 11:45PM
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40oz.
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I didn't say drunk driving and I have looked at the numbers more people die from alcohol "related" issues than gun issues. (Alcohol involved inssues include liver failure, drinking too much to cause death, drunk driving, and many other things)
Dec 3 2013 11:51PM
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uni-corn
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QFT.

Colion Noir is one of the best things to happen to the pro-gun culture. And the points he makes are spot on.

Fuck the NFL.
Dec 3 2013 11:52PM
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40oz.
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Alcohol related deaths - 80,000 per year
Gun Deaths in 2011 - 31,940

http://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_gun_deaths_are_in_the_US_every_year
Dec 3 2013 11:53PM
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.Duncan.
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I guess that counters shibbys point pretty well but its retarded to use when talking about gun violence. Making the distinction between violent acts committed by humans on other humans such as gun related murder or drunk driving and self harming acts like suicide and excessive alcohol consumption is important.

On an unrelated note, does anyone have any experience with any NFA items. Me and my dad want to get a suppressor or two but we don't really know the best way to go about it.
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