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Never Wet on Skis? Has anyone tried this?

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throwin_steeze
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So i just recently found out about "Never-wet" A product made by rustoleum. Apparently its a coating you can spray on to anything, and it literally repels water 100%. You can spray it on your shirt, and nothing will ever stick to it...no food, no stains, no water. You can spray it on your car, and it will never get wet. You can spray it on your phone and create a completely 100% waterproof phone. The applications are endless. And you can buy this stuff at your local home-depot...or so ive heard! Guess its around 20 bucks! So....my question to you ns is has anyone sprayed this stuff on your skis? Would it work or would it just come off after a run or two? If this stuff actually could work on skis...Were talking endless speed theoretically! Ive posted the product vid too...(+K for embed.) This seriously looks like a game changer...Thoughts? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrjXSsfxMQ


Nov 18 2013 9:42PM
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throwin_steeze
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Would this be the permanent replacement to wax? Even wax does not repel water 100%!
Nov 18 2013 9:48PM
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galardogod
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The future of wax
Nov 18 2013 9:54PM
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Rusticles
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Soaking my gloves in this shit, hoping for dry gloves.
Nov 18 2013 10:10PM
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Jesse.White
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Nov 18 2013 10:12PM
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DIPED_IN_SAUCE
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Perhaps now we can have hover-boards? Not sure what the chemistry behind this is, any chem majors on NS want to answer?
Nov 18 2013 10:12PM
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hokkanee
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From what I've heard, the stuff rubs off really easily. Not a viable solution for much of anything yet
Nov 18 2013 10:16PM
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Pikachu.
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only problem is that the base of skis are like long micro channels, they take the water from the snow and make it flow down the length of the ski. IDK how that would work with a coating of this stuff on it
Nov 18 2013 10:19PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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I sprayed it on my shoes and even though it works very well, I had to respray every two weeks because it would wear off when I wore them
Nov 18 2013 10:25PM
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BROLF
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I wonder if it would work to spray on a hoodie to water proof it?
Nov 18 2013 10:48PM
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throwin_steeze
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Waterproofing all our hoodies...instant outerwear
Nov 18 2013 11:06PM
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levi.
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While epic for some applications, it rubs off super easily and really doesn't work on clothes for any extended period of time. This leads me to believe it'd rub off the bottom of your skis in no time
Nov 18 2013 11:11PM
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No.Quarter
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This, It would probably rub off just scooting through the first lift line of the day after applying it.
Nov 18 2013 11:15PM
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mehregan15
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http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2013/07/neverwet_review_the_water_repelling_spray_is_no_miracle_product.htmlhttp://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2013/07/neverwet_review_the_water_repelling_spray_is_no_miracle_product.html
Nov 18 2013 11:24PM
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oil.
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i mean if you're racing, you'd only potentially need it for one run...
but this is ns, and racing is for squares
Nov 18 2013 11:31PM
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Theskiingguy
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maybe you could like "wax" it in by trying to melt it into your bases. Then it might actually last a run or two
Nov 18 2013 11:32PM
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Rusticles
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Hhhhhmmmmmmmm feeling a little disappointed, still going to try it out myself.
Nov 18 2013 11:39PM
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MadSteezin
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This BULLSHIT is probably so bad for our environment. FUCK RUSTOLEUM.
Nov 18 2013 11:41PM
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Uncle_Rowdy
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ok, so lets think about this in an absolutely ideal sense, where this product works perfectly as advertised.

if your skis are 100% repellent to liquid water, what are you sliding on?

Water is an interesting element because it's both a lubricant AND an adhesive. When you're skiing, your skis are really sliding over a very very very very thin layer of water (melted snow from the friction of your ski moving over the surface- i mean like really really really tiny amounts of liquid water, but liquid nonetheless). This is why, when you take your skis off and pick them up at then end of a run, it's very likely to be at least a tiny bit damp on the bottom.

in the sense of being an adhesive, the more surface area that is on the bottom of your ski for water to interact with, the slower you are going to go. This is why we wax skis- not because of any incredible speed properties that wax has, but because of the nature of a PTEX base- PTEX is a plastic polymer that is filled with tiny little air holes when solid. it's not smooth.-> without wax to fill these holes, all they do is create a LOT of surface for water to interact with and slow your progression. a well waxed ski has the MINIMAL amount of surface area available for water to adhere to.

(this is why you tend to go slower in slushy wet snow too, there's more water slowing you down in the snow. you go faster on rock hard ice, because its a lot harder to friction melt it to liquid water)

I'm not a physicist or an engineer, and I don't work in materials science- this is just the way that I was taught skis work from working in a tech shop for a few years.

so, ideal sense: Liquid Water is 100% repelled. you do not move all that much, because you aren't generating lubricant to slide down the slope on.

less than idea sense- the shit wipes off in a few seconds, because there's nothing in it that helps it adhere to PTEX, and you move like normal. no better, no worse.

Nov 19 2013 1:39AM
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cheaaaaaa
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why are you so quick to knock this product? do you have any knowledge of its environmental effects or even its contents?

separately, heres a little on the science of it
Nov 19 2013 1:40AM
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Bittner
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Skiierman already dun it

https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/750220/
Nov 19 2013 1:52AM
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Mr.Bishop
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I can't help but think of this -



Nov 19 2013 8:54AM
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onLINE
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 This. No water = not much movement when skiing. Would still like to see it tested.
Nov 19 2013 9:34AM
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CBROOKS
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Spraying it on your topsheets to avoid snow sticking to them though...
Nov 19 2013 10:03AM
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BLADEE
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Tell me how it works. Slightly skeptical
Nov 19 2013 10:35AM
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Poikenz
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I made a thread about this the other day, sadly gear talk doesn't get much love, but there is some pretty good stuff in here.

Nov 19 2013 10:53AM
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Dr.Dickless
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we have a winner!
Nov 19 2013 11:27AM
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phiberawptik
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So many morons in this thread.
Nov 19 2013 11:27AM
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Hubsta
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Man that film is the best!
Nov 19 2013 11:42AM
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throwin_steeze
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Who cares if theres snow on your topsheets haha....though racers be like "unequal weight distribution"
Nov 19 2013 12:49PM
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Mr.Bishop
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Isn't it? We could do a great spoof with putting neverwet on skis.
Nov 19 2013 12:53PM
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Dr.Dickless
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clearly you have never been in the backcountry
Nov 19 2013 12:56PM
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CaptainObvious.
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It could be Neverbang.

"If you never land, you can never afterbang."
Nov 19 2013 12:58PM
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galardogod
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False in the video on how to after bang tom wallisch states that when you fall fall in the afterbang position to add steez to your falls
Nov 19 2013 1:01PM
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Laughterbang
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What would happen if you sprayed it on a fish?
Nov 19 2013 1:25PM
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suup
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*andy parry
Nov 19 2013 1:35PM
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galardogod
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Thank you +k for correcting me
Nov 19 2013 4:10PM
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ski0
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I drank an entire bottle of this stuff. Turned out to be a terrible mistake.
Nov 19 2013 4:15PM
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ski0
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lol no kidding bro.
Nov 19 2013 4:20PM
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PizzaKid
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This is interesting cause when they spray it on some cookie sheet in the video it's really just gravity making it the liquid flow to the lowest point, so wouldn't it be possible to have the skis slide the same way: just gravity making the ski slide downwards as a result of the repellent layer of never wet and the wet snow? Anyway it would be cool if someone could test it
Nov 19 2013 4:23PM
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CKpolicy
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prove it.
Nov 19 2013 4:28PM
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WU-sconsin
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I feel that with some development there could be a way to make this possible to use for skis.
Nov 19 2013 4:35PM
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galardogod
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Watch the video
Nov 19 2013 4:56PM
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CKpolicy
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Completely waterproof and able to be dipped for less than a second are not the same thing.
Nov 19 2013 5:05PM
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galardogod
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Fair enough
Nov 19 2013 5:10PM
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msndotwav
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I am soo gonna get this and spray the top of my skis.



Nov 19 2013 5:21PM
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gotti
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im gonna spray the bottom of my boots/bindings so i can hike without wiping the snow off all my shit each time. pain in the ass
Nov 19 2013 7:28PM
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Armada333
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first thing that crossed my mind Hoverboard 2015?
Nov 19 2013 8:05PM
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Rusticles
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Fairly skeptical on it working to keep the ice and snow off, it should work on water droplets but what if it freeZes right away? Will it stick to the surface like normal
Nov 19 2013 9:45PM
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throwin_steeze
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Ah good idea! such a pain when hiking haha
Nov 19 2013 10:08PM
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galardogod
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spray it on your shoes and "walk" on water
Nov 19 2013 10:17PM
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