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Bio vs Flat

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teofarley
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Hi!
I can't easily make the difference between bios and flats. Sometimes, it's pretty obvious but not always. If the rotation is big (more than a 720), it's easy but under that, sometimes, I can't. A flat 5 looks the same to me as a bio 5 (I know they're not).
Does anyone know a way to see the difference? Cause the positions right before the take-off are pretty similar.
That thread helped me a lot but still: https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/748833/page/1/

Thanks in advance for your answers
Nov 12 2013 6:35PM
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Lemuel
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Wrong forum.

And a bio is not even close to a flatspin. A bio is an off axis spin with your body tilted downhill, a flatspin is a flip, basically a lincoln loop on the horizontal plane (as if you were lying on your back and spinning).
Nov 12 2013 7:32PM
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Heart
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Flat 5 and rodeo are arguably the same thing. Bio is a forward cork.
Nov 12 2013 7:42PM
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GeorgiaJibber
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Bio is more comparable to a misty, while a flat is comparable to a rodeo. A bio is just a misty but you don't go off axis as much, or just like said before its a forward cork!
Nov 12 2013 8:03PM
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teofarley
Posts: 26 - Karma: 55
Sorry for the wrong forum
Thanks for your answers
I still have difficulties to understand bios! How do you start the rotation of it?
Nov 12 2013 8:24PM
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teofarley
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Look at those two vids:

Bio 7 at 2:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0ylhSdsZx0

Rodeo 9 at 0:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-fRqI_MkGo

The first one looks like a flat 7 to me and the second like a bio 9! So how do you make the real difference?
Nov 12 2013 8:48PM
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At0micski
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Sometimes it can be hard to tell, especially when it is a higher spin, on a smaller jump or filmed at an awkward angle.

A bio is like a forward cork or a misty that does not go inverted. The skiers head is usually first, and it is thrown forward and down.

A flat is like a lincoln loop parallel to the ground or a rodeo that doesn't go inverted. The skis are usually first, and it is thrown backward and to the side.

I can't do these tricks, but this is the way I try to differentiate between the two. Correct me if I'm wrong NS.
Nov 12 2013 9:27PM
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teofarley
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Thanks a lot!
That helped!
Nov 13 2013 7:04AM
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Rockhound
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a bio above 9 and a rodeo above 9 are effectivly the same thing.
Nov 13 2013 12:54PM
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first_rodeo
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flat you are spining on hz axis on back facing sky..............

rodeo is the forward inward head over heels lesser so than lincolns

cork you are like facing inward and down...............
Nov 13 2013 1:00PM
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