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stl or surface

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powfoka
Posts: 2709 - Karma: 160
help me out

i am 5 10 130 lbs

i ski almost all park
cuz i cant afford my alta pass so its just my pc pass

i am either gona get 174 surfaces or 177 stls

surfaces=90 underfoot
stl=82 underfoot

do you think the stls would give me enough float for the occasional pc pow

any suggestions would be splended

btw i like a really soft ski
so anything like msps is out
'skis are like girls , the more you have the better'
Nov 28 2004 10:01PM
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1337chronic
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I would go w/ the 4frnt stls since frnt has been around longer my opinion though.
Nov 28 2004 10:03PM
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NBCskier
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fujis
SGB
Nov 28 2004 10:06PM
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powfoka
Posts: 2709 - Karma: 160
^ was also an option

buti want something more original

i like supporting smaller companies and not riden something that everybody has

but it will save me 200

any other opinions between the surface and stls


are the stls worth the extra 200


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Nov 28 2004 10:15PM
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tandan83
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i dont really know anything about surface, but the stl's are way killer. and that should be plenty for occasional powder, but if you're gonna build some b/c booters, get something fatter prolly. a lot of peeps have tlaked about takin pe's in some powder and said they were fine, and those are only 80 waist





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Nov 28 2004 10:48PM
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shawnm1260
Posts: 3219 - Karma: 66
stls cause they are the sickest skis ever made... believe that








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Nov 28 2004 10:49PM
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SKlAN
Posts: 1109 - Karma: 205
Justin if you like wet noodles which i'm assuming you dont i would for sure ride the surface. Represent a company that doesnt send out gnarly lawers to get money. A.K.A. go with the surface
Surface skis...Check em out their dope

www.DeValeclothing.com
Nov 28 2004 10:59PM
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powfoka
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^ yeah ian they are sick but i am not gonna be able to get my alta pass

so i dunno how much pow im gonna be riding
the sts may be bettr for riding pc

hm i have some thinkin to do
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Nov 28 2004 11:01PM
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SKlAN
Posts: 1109 - Karma: 205
Dude you could totaly rock 90 under foot for park man thats what i'm gonna be riding so far they've been sweet.
Surface skis...Check em out their dope

www.DeValeclothing.com
Nov 28 2004 11:03PM
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BeLeiVeTheHyPe57
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dude trust me stl 100 percent. you will be stoked if u ride mosyly park and ims ure u will be able to ride pow in them
We're all chasing the dream
Nov 28 2004 11:05PM
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powfoka
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^ does width underfoot matter? am i good enough to pul it of i know the surfaces are light as hell but you have seen me ski

can i handle em good enough
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Nov 28 2004 11:05PM
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SKlAN
Posts: 1109 - Karma: 205
I dont really think underfoot matters it makes it easier to land switch and regular. Maybe a little harder on rails but its something you need to get used to.
Surface skis...Check em out their dope

www.DeValeclothing.com
Nov 28 2004 11:07PM
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powfoka
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do you think i can handle em

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Nov 28 2004 11:08PM
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SKlAN
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Yeah dude for sure you can. It'll be like the 164s just your size.
Surface skis...Check em out their dope

www.DeValeclothing.com
Nov 28 2004 11:10PM
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powfoka
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how soft r yours compared to the 164s im riden
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Nov 28 2004 11:15PM
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aclsarescary
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stl's.
Nov 29 2004 12:28AM
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shawnm1260
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or msps both are better








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Nov 29 2004 1:21AM
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tandan83
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get 4frnts...you will not be dissapointed ever





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Nov 29 2004 3:00AM
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1337chronic
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well since u like the fujis 2 go with them I have them they kick ass.
Nov 29 2004 9:26AM
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*rkp*
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nope go 4frnt
Nov 29 2004 9:44AM
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NoTeefa
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you dont weigh much, so i'd go with the 4frnts cuz they are sooper light
Nov 29 2004 11:05AM
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XxLibertYxX
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liberty choppers or stealths
We're all chasing the dream
Nov 29 2004 11:11AM
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UTmeathead
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I skied the STL's 2 days ago in two feet of fresh and they rocked, I don't know what Lurpsteez means by 'wet noodle.' Ptex sidewalls are PROVEN to be lighter than normal ABS. And what's with the 'lawyer' comments? Did 4FRNT send a lawyer after you?
Nov 29 2004 11:47AM
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KeegLove
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stl.
SKI FOR LIFE!



If it was easy it would be called snowboarding.

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Nov 29 2004 1:32PM
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powfoka
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hmmm very tough

i need to go check out and compare the stls and the
fujatives
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Nov 29 2004 3:13PM
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CTD
Posts: 6300 - Karma: 348
yeah, stls are such great skis. and sterbenz is a great guy.
opps, that was free advertising.
Nov 29 2004 3:15PM
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beartrap
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i have the STL and they are sick.......so in my opinion i would go STL
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Nov 29 2004 5:32PM
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lechef
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4frnt are like the lighest ski man
Nov 29 2004 5:54PM
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SKlAN
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Surface for sure man they have way more pop than anyother ski out there. And when you take the Msps to any thing but pow they chatter like crazy
Surface skis...Check em out their dope

www.DeValeclothing.com
Nov 29 2004 7:11PM
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UTmeathead
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^What is your deal? That's the biggest load of crap! The MSP is one of the most stable twins on the market. It has a FULL MAPLE CORE, tip-to-tail. If you want chatter, go try a Pocket Rocket.
You like Surface and that's great, but don't go mis-informing people about other companies skis.
Nov 29 2004 7:31PM
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pocket-rocket
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From what you said, money might be a factor, have you tought about Liberty trough Www.Absoluteskishop.com? Super cheap...
Liberty Skis
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WWW.OAKLEY.COM
Nov 29 2004 7:57PM
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SnowCoast
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*Hides in corner, wishes he was affiliated with a core ski company so he can plug it*
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Nov 29 2004 8:00PM
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powfoka
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^ no money isnt a factor these are gonna be my skis for atleast 3 years and i am gettin a pow ski next year but this year i am ride pc all the time

if im gonna spend the money i want to get whats gonna be the best for me and what i am doin

i doubt i will be riden much pow cuz pc doesent get it


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Nov 29 2004 10:22PM
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Kev
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Liberty Choppers

Or

Stl's
Sponsored By Your Mom
Drop Cliff's, Not Bombs
Make Turns, Not War
Bomb Hills, Not People
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Nov 29 2004 10:26PM
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SKlAN
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when i've skied on the msps they chattered when i was going fast. there for thats my opinion. If you dont like it to bad man.
And i know justin and i'm just trying to help spread they word about surface.
Surface skis...Check em out their dope

www.DeValeclothing.com
Nov 29 2004 10:51PM
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powfoka
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^ yo ian thanks for lookin out fo me man

im def gona look more into everything
'skis are like girls , the more you have the better'
Nov 30 2004 12:30AM
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powfoka
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any other comments?
'skis are like girls , the more you have the better'
Nov 30 2004 2:48PM
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Rowdy2
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STL's bombproof, light, and good pop.
Surface? Don't know
Nov 30 2004 2:49PM
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SKlAN
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Anytime.
Surface are way light for how fat they are hella camber and ALOT of pop in them. The only problem is the topsheet it kinda chips alot but most all skies chip
Surface skis...Check em out their dope

www.DeValeclothing.com
Nov 30 2004 4:59PM
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FUUUCK
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surface has some bugs to work out, being in there first season and all. get the stl unless your really really into pipe
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Nov 30 2004 5:04PM
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SKlAN
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The only problem i can kind is the top sheet but every companys top sheet chips.
Surface skis...Check em out their dope

www.DeValeclothing.com
Nov 30 2004 5:06PM
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NoTeefa
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please shut up.
Nov 30 2004 6:28PM
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NBCskier
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shut up lurpsteez...stl's or fujis if your ridin park all the time
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Nov 30 2004 7:41PM
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Ifeinforsnow
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definitely the stl's surface is wack
Nov 30 2004 7:56PM
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winterkid33
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stls, msp, ar5, or arv they are the best and they ryhme like that. like docta seuss! I wont but from a brand new company there is a reason why 4frnt and armada is so popular its because they are proven to be great. besides your friend who seems like a surface rep. I have never heard of them. So 4frnt armada= proven greatness Surface= greatness IN THEORY
Nov 30 2004 8:30PM
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powfoka
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BUMP
'skis are like girls , the more you have the better'
Dec 1 2004 10:01AM
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