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Flat 3 to cork 7?!

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Da-Bull
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Last week I was at ramps in Lac Beauport Qc and a few of my friends convinced me to hit the triple( the big scary arials jump). We were there for a week and i hit it on the first day(big oldd rodeo 5). on the last day i got convinced to hit it again. This time i had to go for the kang( dub rod/flat 900 for all those nobs) landed it.......
A bunch of people missed it and one of my friends missed the shot. so i went and did it again but opened up after the first flip and started spinning, At Apex i opened and i thought i was gonna land flat on my face cuz i dint have enough of a flippy set.
Somehow i landed on my feet doing kinda of a wobble cork. I know it wasnt the cleanest and i know someone has actually done it on snow but i found it pretty cool and i think that more double variations like this should be done on purpose and not by accident.

heres the first dub i did


heres the second hit where i shit my pants



shout out to Trojan~Man
for filming this one!
Aug 19 2013 2:42PM
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freeskibum82
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nice dude! pretty easy to get upside down on a jump of that angle.
Aug 19 2013 2:48PM
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RubberSoul
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yeah that was interesting
Aug 19 2013 2:53PM
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DeRizzo
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Both were sick as fuck
Aug 19 2013 2:58PM
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B-lolo
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bro that was sooo legit!
Aug 19 2013 3:04PM
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eheath
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Cool idea for sure, but its super aerial-ish to me. It'd be hard to do that trick and hold a grab the whole time ya know? Props for putting it down though.
Aug 19 2013 3:06PM
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Coxworth
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i think that trick would call for a double grab of some combination
Aug 19 2013 3:08PM
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eheath
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Possibly, but to go from flat 3 to cork 7 you have to bring your hands up and change your momentum, like an aerialist would do.
Aug 19 2013 3:13PM
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rememberscott
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not if you're edollo
Aug 19 2013 3:17PM
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Da-Bull
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japan to mute
Aug 19 2013 3:22PM
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Stpat98
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It could be possible to start out with a Japan, then throw one arm up to switch your momentum and grab safety. It kinda looked like what you did in the video.
Aug 19 2013 5:40PM
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Miomo
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No you don't. You just need to spin faster, which is easy.
Aug 19 2013 6:54PM
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eheath
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It's literally impossible to go from a flat 3 to cork 7 without changing your momentum. You could do a flat into a dspin 7 (aka lay full aerialist trick) because you'd just keep flipping but you'd spin. I don't see this trick looking good.
Aug 19 2013 7:14PM
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Miomo
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Rodeos are on the same axis as corks

Just speed up the spin
Aug 19 2013 7:19PM
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eheath
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I'm not even going to try anymore, see ya.
Aug 19 2013 7:25PM
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Da-Bull
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I just went in to survival mode and tucked my knees in, wich kinda set the cork
Aug 19 2013 10:20PM
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Coxworth
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the right person would make it look dope as fuck in my opinion
Aug 20 2013 3:51PM
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skodeo7
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Reminds me a lot of a dub rodeo 10.
Aug 21 2013 8:31AM
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trill
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relevant? Snowboard equivalent of kinda flat 3 to cork ?

Aug 21 2013 9:28AM
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The-RZA-Of-Ski
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rad
Aug 21 2013 10:54AM
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Miomo
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Yeah?
What's the difference?
Aug 21 2013 11:47AM
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Da-Bull
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snowboarder did a cork 9 out! both sports need more of these variations
Aug 21 2013 3:34PM
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PeeDog
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You sir, are a fucking idiot.
You seriously can't see the difference between these two CLEARLY DIFFERENT rotations? Fuck off


Aug 21 2013 3:47PM
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Wolfgang.
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I think it could be done without the arm flail, you could change the momentum by changing the grab perhaps.
Aug 21 2013 4:49PM
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andrewhsnwboards
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YOur an aerialist
Aug 21 2013 8:28PM
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FUUUCK
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I want to call that a flat 3 to bio 7 but it just doesn't feel right.
Aug 21 2013 8:33PM
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Miomo
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First one's a flatspin

^This cork is on the exact same axis as a rodeo
Aug 21 2013 8:52PM
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WPoch
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haha TC went to that last place in Japan.
Aug 21 2013 9:55PM
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Da-Bull
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lol i know the guy that did that cork aha.
your logic still makes no sense, a cork 7 isnt the same as a flippy flat 3..your comparing a flip with a spin, they will never be on the same axis
Aug 21 2013 10:01PM
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perryhunter
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Pretty cool! Interesting!
Aug 21 2013 10:06PM
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saxon
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lol every fucking time you post technicalities about tricks, you are so wrong.
Aug 21 2013 10:26PM
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Da-Bull
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agreed, prime example right here : https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/749995/
enjoy
Aug 21 2013 10:31PM
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Newschool_Pope
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https://vimeo.com/13622414 1:46 looks like a legit flat to cork 7. and with a grab it would look pretty dope imo.
Aug 21 2013 11:25PM
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Newschool_Pope
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Whats Good Is Hood Edit from Midwest Media on Vimeo.

Aug 21 2013 11:26PM
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eheath
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Okay? It still looks like shit...
Aug 21 2013 11:28PM
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Stose
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But proves that it is possible
Aug 21 2013 11:38PM
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eheath
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...i never said it wasn't possible
Aug 22 2013 12:09AM
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icon1234
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A jump that has that much kick you could possibly allow you to hold a japan grab throughout the rotation... The transition on the flat 3 to cork with that much kick would just require you to drop your shoulder without having to do too much other work, which would let you to hold a japan grab the whole time. The thing is the cork 7 would look quite a bit more flippy than the one in that video because you would just be using your shoulder and your head to set the cork causing it to be more d-spin.

I have no idea what I am really talking about, but i think in theory it could look good. But we don't make jumps with that much kick, so in order for the that double to happen it would require what you're saying which is that huge momentum shift to set the cork. Because a flat 3 off a jump with not that kick would set you in a awkward position to make a cork.
Aug 22 2013 12:22AM
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Stose
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You're right. I read it as "it's literally impossible to go from flat 3 to cork 7" and kind of breezed through the rest
Aug 22 2013 2:43AM
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RubberSoul
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people who don't know what they're talking about just need to learn to shut their mouth. in that thread my post saying "rodeos are nothing like corks" got downvoted.....
Aug 22 2013 12:25PM
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Miomo
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So in a rodeo, your feet go straight over your head?

Look at it this way. If you add more spin to a rodeo, it's a cork, therefore, cork = rodeo.
Aug 22 2013 12:45PM
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JakeBarrett
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so youre saying that :45 looks the same as 1:32??

Kindly go away forever.

Aug 22 2013 2:00PM
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minihef
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Wow, you're really fucking stupid.

Let's see if we can break this down for you. Look at the two videos posted by Peedog.

On the rodeo video pause it when the skier is at 180 and you'll notice his chest is facing the sky and then if you pause it when he is at 360 his chest is facing the ground.

On the cork video pause it when the skier is at 180 and you'll notice his chest is facing the ground and then if you pause it when he is at 360 his chest is facing the sky.

These two things are the exact fucking opposite. Therefore if you keep blindly insisting that they are the same, everyone who knows anything about skiing will conclude that you are a clueless gaper who needs to read a beginner's trick tip guide.
Aug 22 2013 2:05PM
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saxon
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No we generally refer to that as a backflip.....derp

anyways, corks and rodeos are each on a different axis. they are two distinctly different tricks that are set very differently. rodeo can be set a variety of ways, but each of those are very different from a cork.

and no, your feet do not go straight over your head. they sometimes will go above your head, but that goes into a discussion about flat vs rodeo that i'm sure no one feels like getting into.

suffice it to say you're wrong.

Aug 22 2013 2:08PM
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Miomo
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No, I didn't

What's a cork?
It's described as a spin thrown backwards over your shoulder
If that's what a cork actually is, then your feet would move up to the front and side, towards your back, and down in the back and side.
The cork you showed was feet going up in front and down in front

If you looked at the cork that I posted above, you'd see that my first statement above is true.

A rodeo is a "flip" thrown backwards over your shoulder.
In other words: the same as a cork.


Another thing is, a rodeo has no opposite. The opposite of a cork is a bio and the opposite of a d-spin in a misty.
So what's the opposite of a rodeo?
Simple. There isn't one. You could say that the opposite of a Rodeo is a misty, but then there's no opposite of a d-spin.
Aug 22 2013 2:26PM
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RubberSoul
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dude these word games aren't going to help, you are just wrong, PLEASE just shhh until you have half a clue what youre talking about
Aug 22 2013 2:47PM
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minihef
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Nope - you're still really fucking confused about this whole thing eh.

When you throw a leftside cork you dip your left shoulder which means as you come around to the first 180 of the rotation your stomach is facing the ground with your head on the jump side, feet nearer the landing.

When you throw a leftside rodeo you dip/punch your right shoulder which means as you come around to the first 180 of the rotation your stomach is facing the sky with your head closer to the landing and your feet nearer to jump.

They are opposite, not the same. You have to be retarded to argue otherwise.
Aug 22 2013 5:54PM
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Miomo
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That's a flatspin, not a rodeo.
Aug 22 2013 9:21PM
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Stose
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No that's both. You're wrong so get over it
Aug 22 2013 9:23PM
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Miomo
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In a flatspin, your legs move behind you

In a rodeo, your legs move beside you
Aug 22 2013 9:34PM
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