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Griffons?

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noahmdubs
Posts: 145 - Karma: 166
I am 6 feet and 140 lbs and thinking about purchasing some griffons. I probably ski 90% park and 10% rest of the mountain. However, I have heard that since griffons are mostly plastic they are not durable and break easily. I can get the griffons for a great price here on ns too. Should I just get the griffons or should i go with a different binding and if so, what binding?
Jun 27 2013 2:29PM
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Aithline
Posts: 131 - Karma: 204
I bought skis with griffons on them, they are my powder skis, so I take them off cliffs and such, have never used them in the park, but they seem great for me, and i'm 6'3" 200lbs. If you can get a good deal, go for it.
Jun 27 2013 4:56PM
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NikOtiN
Posts: 1352 - Karma: 222
Few my friends have broken their Griffon. This it not durable bindings. 100% truth.
Jun 27 2013 5:27PM
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Cotter
Posts: 2546 - Karma: 850
People have problems with griffons others don't. My bud has griffons his din +4 than what the shop gave him and he pre-releases like nothing, I also have griffons and they worked perfectly, loved them. I'm 6'1 180lbs
Jun 27 2013 10:43PM
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miemiec
Posts: 400 - Karma: 55
Had griffons on my park skis for two straight seasons, skied over 50 days both seasons and there still holding up great. I'm about your build, 6' 2" 165l bs. They should be fine for you. Only issue is they look like crap cosmetically after two years, but still perform like the day they came out of the box. But I have seen people get there brakes ripped off from skiing switch. Like any products there are a few bad in the bunch. But overall I would go for them.
Jun 27 2013 11:19PM
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tsk94
Posts: 184 - Karma: 122
I got a pair of Griffons and so far have had no issues, I like how light they keep the setup. Like mentioned above though, I think it's really hit and miss unfortunately.
Jun 28 2013 12:10AM
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AaronO.
Posts: 1165 - Karma: 3,185
Love my griffons, they're plastic but they're pretty solid.
Jun 28 2013 1:50AM
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triss
Posts: 1293 - Karma: 2,916
my friend ripped the heel piece right off trying a flip at stratton,,,then 2 days later he borrowed my friends k2 kung jujas that hat the griffon demos on broke the demo plate right off taking a little fall....then i rode them and the AFD glide pate broke off when i stomped in
Jun 28 2013 9:32AM
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theblackrod
Posts: 2162 - Karma: 575
the heel piece ripping off the ski is the ski/mount, not the binding.
Jun 28 2013 10:22AM
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tomPietrowski
Posts: 7099 - Karma: 17,043
It always makes me laugh when people say that bindings may not be great because of all the plastic. Most bindings are mainly plastic. There are only really the sth16 steel and fks 180 which are not mostly plastic. Fks 140 have more plastic then metal as do sth 16's but they are both great bindings.

And to the people saying they or there friends have broken them, I could say that for any binding. I have seen sth 16's rip apart same with fks 180's does this make them bad no of course not. It's just sometimes you get unlucky. The only binding I have never seen break is the sth16 steel but I don't advise them to everyone, as most people have absolutely no need for a binding that strong.
Jun 28 2013 10:29AM
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Huck_Norris
Posts: 11487 - Karma: 18,627
Exactly.

For low to medium level park skiing, the plastic is not only fine, but will be much lighter.

Once you get into higher lever forces and skiing, sure metal bindings make a lot of sense but often times when a binding rips out, etc. it's the mount and not the bindings anyways.

Why people sliding rails at ~2mph think they need the single pivot FKS toe or feel that a turntable heel will do anything for them is beyond me.
Jun 28 2013 11:12AM
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Pipe_Munky
Posts: 10887 - Karma: 2,165
one thing people need to realise about the griffon is that it is the most common flat ski binding not used on rental or junior skis.

it's simple logic, the more bindings you have in the market, the more you're going to see and hear about them breaking. look at the original dynastar trouble maker. that was probably the most popular twin tip of its time and all you heard about was edges pulling out and delam problems. dynastar sold a shit load of those skis so while they were having a lot of them fail, it was still consistent with their accepted defect rate.

at the end of the day, marker will look after you should the binding fail
Jun 28 2013 11:30AM
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noahmdubs
Posts: 145 - Karma: 166
so what would be better griffons or px 12s? or is it more of an apples and oranges type of thing?
Jun 28 2013 6:26PM
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NikOtiN
Posts: 1352 - Karma: 222
griffons lighеest than px12. px12 more durable than griffons cost of px12 ~ cost of griffons
Jun 28 2013 6:36PM
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traylortrash
Posts: 1935 - Karma: 2,450
not to threadjack, but has anyone experienced problems with toe play/slop on their griffons? my toepiece is not entirely solid, ie wiggles a bit, not sure if that is supposed to happen or not but there is also a bit of play apparent when clicked into the ski... forward pressure is set correctly, I've had this problem with multiple pairs of griffons as well. any advice would be appreciated...

but to the op, griffons are really all I have used in the park for the past few years, other than the slop mentioned above I've never had a problem... weight is an important factor with them though, I'm 140ish, if you're above 150-160 it would probably be best to look for another binding. but if they work for you, they are hella light, which is what I like about them.
Jun 28 2013 9:18PM
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BirtDike
Posts: 1258 - Karma: 514
screw px series bindings. heavy as all F*** and release like crap. others may disagree, but thats my opinion.
Jun 28 2013 9:35PM
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GPO
Posts: 654 - Karma: 311
also experienced some problems with toe play/slop. It's getting worse every time I go skiing. The only thing you can do is crank up the afd gliding piece so there's less movement but that doesn't solve the problem for the wiggling toe piece.
Jun 29 2013 6:24AM
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traylortrash
Posts: 1935 - Karma: 2,450
yup that exactly...
Jun 29 2013 10:30PM
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