Cheating the Canada Boater Exam??

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youre too goddamn lazy to spend a few hours to get your boaters license? jesus christ. at least 75% of that test is common sense, the other 25% is shit you need to know.

if you cant be bothered to put in the effort, you dont deserve the PRIVILEGE to operate a boat.

Jun 10 2013 2:59PM

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what are you talking about. my dad got his 2 weeks ago online. took 30 minutes and it said right on it that its an OPEN BOOK exam...

and on top of that, i did mine in a live session at the EX a few years ago and it was very easy.

maybe this was the test, and you failed,,, youre just too retarded to drive a boat

Jun 10 2013 3:02PM

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so your saying you plan on boating unsafely while harming people? gtfo you don't deserve to own or operate a boat.

Jun 10 2013 3:07PM

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I sat in cabelas for 8 hours and got mine with no problems, i juust listened and took the test (Im in US)

Jun 10 2013 3:22PM

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just do it while watching tv. make sure you do well on the mini test though because otherwise you have to redo the chapter

Jun 10 2013 4:58PM

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wrote mine last summer at a booth outside Canadian tire. took me fifteen minutes, and I looked up answered on my phone. the whole course is a bullshit money grab

Jun 10 2013 5:42PM

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its a safety measure and prevents negligence. if you are in a boating accident, by being tested and licensed on the required knowledge to safely operate a motor vessel, you cannot claim "you didnt know" or that you were unaware of any boating laws/regulations/etc. same goes with a car drivers license.

you have to be pretty fucking stupid to kill/injure someone/yourself with a boat, and being tested on this knowledge which is generally common sense, you are expected to adhere to the rules and can be held liable if/when there is an accident, and you are also unable to claim that you were uninformed on information you were tested on

Jun 10 2013 6:15PM

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Kids like you are the reason accidents happen on the lake. It takes some knowledge and experience to keep yourself and everyone else on board safe. It really isn't that hard to prevent, unless everyone's like you and thinks the boat is a joke

OP, it isn't too bad, just power through, the questions are pretty much all common sense!

Jun 10 2013 7:06PM

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You probably don't actually need to read to pass the test, get clock control http://www.mediafire.com/download/ax2cmf5nc25nd82/MCClock+v1.4.exe and it will speed up the countdown clock. Used it on my online drivers ed and it worked perfectly haha.

Jun 10 2013 7:52PM

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yeah cause its common sense to know how high my Radar mast should be. that's the only question I remember specifically, but fuck there was a lot of useless crap in there, and not once did they mention a diver down flag

Jun 10 2013 9:16PM

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if you need to cheat on it, you shouldnt be able to live, let alone drive a boat

Jun 10 2013 9:34PM

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its so easy but you should probably actaully take the time to do all the shit. there are so many shitty boaters on the waters these days

Jun 10 2013 9:46PM

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again, "useless" because it should be common sense, but by being tested on it, you are no longer able to claim negligence/didnt know ____ rule/regulation/law and you are fully responsible for your actions behind the wheel of a boat.

youre done it, quit bitching about it. it was what? a few hours out of one day of your entire life?

Jun 11 2013 1:55AM

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do the in person exam. you wont have access to the net but most of the questions are common sense, 1 hour of studying tops

Jun 11 2013 2:03AM

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to all the people saying it is all just common sense haven't taken the test recently because they have a whole bunch of bullshit questions in there. i took the test last year so i cant remember all of them but tons aren't just common sense like what is the wind speed during a strong wind warning. One question that pissed me off was," what is the first thing you should do if your boat flips? " and the answer was put on your life jacket, but its illegal to drive a boat without one on in the first place. all in all its a stupid test

Jun 12 2013 7:00PM

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That should be common fucking sense if you are going to take control of a boat.

Jun 12 2013 7:08PM

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a)20-33 knots

b)20-30 knots

c) 15-23 knots

d)25-35 knots

still common sense? obliviously it means you shouldn't drive your boat but knowing the exact value sure as hell isnt common sense

Jun 12 2013 7:30PM

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just do it, i had to go to a 2 hour class. you have the option of doing it online

Jun 12 2013 7:40PM

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yes, to be a competent boater youre supposed to know the classifications of windspeeds..... its kind of fucking important.

there is a difference between light winds, moderate winds, gale force winds, hurricane force winds

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind#Wind_force_scale

and no, its not illegal to operate ALL boats without a lifejacket on, most cases you are only required to have as many, if not more lifejackets than there are occupants on the vessel.

shows how much of the reading you did.

Jun 12 2013 8:05PM

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my first reaction upon viewing title:

Jun 12 2013 8:21PM

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No it really isn't, that important to know what exact speed the classification refers to. knowing there ranking sure but the exact value no way, and either way you can't argue knowing the exact value isn't common sense. Also as they teach you during the course even though on certain vessels a lifejacket isn't required by law to be worn you still should always wear one making it a stupid question.

Jun 12 2013 8:33PM

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when did i say knowing the classifications for windspeeds was common sense? i said it is important, because it fucking is. listen to a marine weather forecast, EVERYTHING is referred to firstly by their wind classification.

and again, the fact that these things are examinable subject matter goes to show you that there HAS been issues with them in terms of boating incidents and people not knowing what to do. in an emergency situation it isnt uncommon for people to start doing other shit before putting on their lifejackets, and as result going to do so after it is too late (capsizing larger vessel where life jackets are stored in a closed compartment?) not to mention, if its a stupid question, its common fucking sense.

the testing for your boaters license covers ALL liesure vessels, people wanting to operate larger boats SHOULD take a power squadron course, but it is not REQUIRED to do so. wanna know why they test you on marker signage like port/starboard in regards to coming into and leaving port? i have firsthand watched some idiot beach his boat worth thousands and thousands of dollars, as well as destroy most of his belongings on board because he didnt know which side of a green marker he should stay on coming to port. i have also personally rescued a couple barely above water in a capsizing boat, in their state i was surprised they even got their lifejackets on considering their condition.

both instances were incredibly unfortunate, super shitty for the dude who destroyed his boat, but i would not be surprised for a second if his insurance did not cover a cent of the damage, because he was TESTED on it and EXPECTED to know it, and the couple who we rescued, had they been hurt or god forbid died, the result would be due to negligence on their part for not knowing what they were supposed to do despite being tested on the necessary information.

a vast majority of the tested material is common sense, or at least pretty fucking easy to answer, as it should be. you have to be pretty goddamn retarded to crash a smaller boat like wakeboard boat/whaler/runabout, and by being tested on it, you are acknowledging the fact that you KNOW exactly how to operate a boat properly and safely

Jun 13 2013 2:58AM

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I wrote it in fifteen minutes, which was still fifteen minutes too much. Only reason I did it was there was some nice looking girls at the booth and i got to chat them up.

and there is also different versions of the test, and no way to prove which version and which questions were asked and subsequently what rules and regulations you do in fact know, and also the fact that you need an 80 to pass and don't see what you got wrong, could have got the 20% most important questions wrong.

also, my boat doesn't have a wheel, its a tiller. I bet you don't fucking know what that is without using Google.

Jun 13 2013 3:00AM

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Read, fap, read, fap, read, fap, take test...

Profit???

Jun 13 2013 3:36AM

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wow, you used the fancy name for what everyone else calls a little outboard.... idiot

same goes for your automobile driving theory right? since they dont know what you got wrong and you dont need to get every single question right theres no way to expect you to know the rules of the road right? solid fucking logic right there folks

Jun 13 2013 1:01PM

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actually.......you replied to my comment about how the windspeeds aren't common sense by saying yes they are. knowing whether a the classification refers to 20-30 knots or 22-30 knots really isnt that important. If you hear there is a strong wind warning it means don't go out, that is all you need to know.

yes, but by putting a question like that in they are imply you don't need to always be wearing a life jacket and with your "first hand' experience you should know the importance of always wearing a life jacket of the size of the boat or the condition of the sea. I stand by the fact that it isn't common sense because common sense would of told you to already be wearing a life jacket. to me the common sense answers was to radio the coast guard.

I dont really see why you trying to lecture me about signage of course it is important to know, my comment was directed at the fact that not all the questions are common sense

btw ive been driving boats by myself before i was even 13 and i mean real boats not some zodiac in a bay, so yes i know what i am talking about.

Jun 13 2013 1:08PM

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wow before you were 13? and youre how old now? real boats? what is a "real boat"

again, no, i didnt say it was common sense, i said it is important knowledge. no clearly have never heard a marine weather report, and no, there is a reason there are classifications for different windspeeds. ever heard of this thing called a sailboat? knowing what kind of winds you are dealing with is pretty fucking important.

let me know how wearing a coast guard approved lifejacket for 10 hours straight in transit works for you on a 50 foot boat with a closed cabin. in the case of said capsizing vessel, it was an almost glass calm day, a little foggy and rainy, the boat in question, a 40 foot powerboat hit a deadhead submerged a few feet under the surface, invisible because of the rain breaking the surface of the water, struck the hull and put a hole almost a foot in diameter. totally reasonable time to think "oh, i better wear my lifejacket in case there is randomly a giant tree in the middle of the flat calm ocean that might sink my boat". not to mention, no, your first reaction to an incident is rarely hop on the radio immediately, there are multiple different distress signals based on the nature of the emergency, you knew that already though right? by doing so you could potentially be putting the lives of others at risk because you incorrectly reported your emergency, whatever that may be.

seriously, the more you post the more you make it clear you dont have a clue what youre talking about.

Jun 13 2013 1:31PM

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Quoting cool_name from Jun 12 2013 7:30:32:
a)20-33 knotsb)20-30 knots c) 15-23 knots d)25-35 knots still common sense? obliviously it means you shouldn't drive your boat but knowing the exact value sure as hell isnt common sense

yes, to be a competent boater youre supposed to know the classifications of windspeeds..... its kind of fucking important.

^maybe you didnt say it but you sure implied it

if you are a good enough sailor to sail in a wind warning great job, but the test isn't meant for those people its meant for the average boater and all they need to know is not to go out during a wind warning.

yes you always should wear your life jacket on a pleasure craft regardless of the conditions because of that exact scenario. If you can afford a 40ft powerboat, you can afford those low profile life jackets to make wearing them more comfortable.

If you are on a 50ft boat for a 10 hour journey you hardly fit into the norm for the people this test is designed for and as you already said should take a power squadron course

how on earth could you radioing the coast guard and saying my boat just flipped help put you in any more danger

Jun 13 2013 4:19PM

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lol you might be retarded if you don't pass any sort of vehicle license test, or even consider cheating on them.

Jun 13 2013 4:25PM

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Yeah I got my boaters and snowmobile license at like 11 in MI. OP you're what's wrong with society. Wanting to half-ass shit. Fuck off.

Jun 13 2013 5:03PM

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Folks in America, this is a perfect example of the result of a government that almost completely nationalizes everything ie: Socialism.

You get lazy complainers.

Jun 13 2013 5:05PM

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you're a dumb fuck. you can get a tiller on outboards up to 125hp, maybe more, I've personally driven 90hp tillers and seen 100hp. Up north most fishing camps run 90hp 4 stroke tillers on fishing boats for shooting rapids and rivers to keep the weight near the back to allow for better maneuverability and the jet is to run in shallower water.

I drive a 40hp 2 stroke prop driven tiller on an 18 foot lund with a built up rear transom to bring the bottom end up a bit more to run shallower, and its comparable in power and speed as the 90s. Only smashed the skeg off once, and didn't even ding the prop.

A stupid fucking test isnt going to replace a lifetime of boating knowledge. Sure you learn some rules and regulations, but does that mean you can get behind the wheel (or in front of the tiller) of a high horsepower water craft with absolutely no training on how to actually drive it?? I fucking think not.

and another thing, when you take your fucking road test, if you miss something, they do in fact tell you at the end what you did wrong.

Jun 13 2013 5:14PM

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jesus christ youre blunt.

important knowledge /= common sense

wind warning implies dangerous windspeeds..... not a single windspeed youre talking about can be classified as anything more than a windy rainstorm... which again, shows very clearly that you have never listened to any sort of marine weather report, or any weather report whatsoever to be honest.

seriously, shut the fuck up, you have no idea what youre talking about, let alone argue a point.

how old are you? your reading comprehension tells me you couldnt possibly be older than 16.

"how on earth could you radioing the coast guard and saying my boat just flipped help put you in any more danger"

i never said YOU. i said OTHERS. look back to what i wrote. in what world does the coast guard have an infinitely limitless number of rescue vessels and personel? do you call the ambulance because you sprained your ankle when you fell running, or scraped your knee?

the test is designed for EVERYONE. everyone in canada who has any desire to operate a boat HAS to take this test. you personally may not think knowing what a particular windspeed is called, but to operate any boat outside of a small lake, it is relevant information.

(ps, if you had any common sense whatsoever, youd pretty quickly come to the conclusion that wind and weather is not consistent, and windspeed does not stay at a constant speed, therefore they give a RANGE of windspeeds a name, or classification if you will, because on a weather report, hearing "gale force" and knowing exactly what general range the wind speed is going to be rather than listening to "approximately fourty-one to fourty-seven nautical miles per hour" is a lot simpler, more concise, and you get the information you want a whole lot faster)

again. you have no idea what youre talking about. quit arguing out your ass and grasping for straws. youre an idiot

Jun 13 2013 5:26PM

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"important knowledge /= common sense"

~exactly so knowing the exact wind speed isn't common sense. Therefore i was correct that the test isn't only common sense

"wind warning implies dangerous windspeeds..... not a single windspeed youre talking about can be classified as anything more than a windy rainstorm"

~ i was talking about a strong wind warning the whole time if that was only a windy rainstorm they wouldn't have made it a wind warning

"seriously, shut the fuck up, you have no idea what youre talking about, let alone argue a point."

~great point totally related

"how old are you? your reading comprehension tells me you couldnt possibly be older than 16. "

~just by your icon you are 14 year old trend whore, still not related though

"i never said YOU. i said OTHERS. look back to what i wrote. in what world does the coast guard have an infinitely limitless number of rescue vessels and personel? do you call the ambulance because you sprained your ankle when you fell running, or scraped your knee?"

~Maybe its just me but personally i think flipping a boat is a bit more serious than scraping your knee and i trust the coast guard will be able to ask the appropriate questions to rank the seriousness to other calls.

"the test is designed for EVERYONE. everyone in canada who has any desire to operate a boat HAS to take this test. you personally may not think knowing what a particular windspeed is called, but to operate any boat outside of a small lake, it is relevant information."

~It is important to know the order yes, but knowing the exact value really doesn't matter that much and i have driven boats off the northern tip of the Vancouver island and not once was knowing the exact value necessary

"(ps, if you had any common sense whatsoever, youd pretty quickly come to the conclusion that wind and weather is not consistent, and windspeed does not stay at a constant speed, therefore they give a RANGE of windspeeds a name, or classification if you will, because on a weather report, hearing "gale force" and knowing exactly what general range the wind speed is going to be rather than listening to "approximately fourty-one to fourty-seven nautical miles per hour" is a lot simpler, more concise, and you get the information you want a whole lot faster"

~hearing gale force wind means get off the water, knowing whether it is 40 or 41 really doesn't matter unless you are driving a very large vessel in which case it is highly unlikely that a on line boaters test is the only certification you would posses.

"again. you have no idea what youre talking about. quit arguing out your ass and grasping for straws. youre an idiot"

~do i still have no idea what im talking about because i just shot down every single point you presented......moron.

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Ahahahahaah since when is getting a recreational vehicle license an example of socialism? Don't you have a rush Limbaugh show to jerk off too?

Jun 13 2013 6:08PM

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Shit my b, you're still retarded and should really do something about it.

Jun 13 2013 6:19PM

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Seriously fuck that boaters exam. Took me 2 times to get it , it's actually really hard.

Jun 13 2013 6:44PM

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Therefore i was correct that the test isn't only common sense

-i, nor anyone said it was ONLY common sense. fantastic point

i was talking about a strong wind warning the whole time if that was only a windy rainstorm they wouldn't have made it a wind warning

- yet you were addressing knowing the classifications of windspeeds in regards to being testable subject matter, a classification of windspeed =/ wind warning. moderate winds is not a wind warning.

Maybe its just me but personally i think flipping a boat is a bit more serious than scraping your knee and i trust the coast guard will be able to ask the appropriate questions to rank the seriousness to other calls.

- and therefore the ABSOLUTE VERY FIRST thing you should do is call the coastguard? before say, you dont have your lifejacket or ensure the safety of everyone involved? good logic

It is important to know the order yes, but knowing the exact value really doesn't matter that much and i have driven boats off the northern tip of the Vancouver island and not once was knowing the exact value necessary

- not sure when i said knowing the exact value was necessary.... that is the point of a wind classification

hearing gale force wind means get off the water, knowing whether it is 40 or 41 really doesn't matter unless you are driving a very large vessel in which case it is highly unlikely that a on line boaters test is the only certification you would posses.

- again... that is the exact point of a wind classification, not sure what you are trying to argue.

do i still have no idea what im talking about because i just shot down every single point you presented......moron.

- youre right, you did a fantastic job. good on you

and KrazyistKarl

you are absolutely right, my bad on the tiller thing haha. around where i am most people dont own one above 30, while most have 9.9's because you used to be able to operate under 10hp without a license/under 16.

about being told what you did wrong, i meant in terms of it being recorded. youre supposed to be told what you answer incorrectly on your boaters license test, i personally do not know anyone who wasnt.

and you are again right, i never said that test is meant to replace a lifetime of knowledge, in the same way that your driving test does not immediately make you an expert driver, if that were the case, vancouver would not be filled with as many shitty drivers as there are. my point was that it is to prove that you are a competent boater, in the same way that taking your driving test says you know the rules of the road and cannot claim negligence when you run a stop sign or speed, and again, there is nothing to say that you cant get your drivers license and then go buy a lamborghini or ferarri, in fact, there are hundreds of news reports of idiots who have no idea how to drive who smash up their cars. same thing applies to boats. that was my point, any idiot can get their boaters or drivers license, the actual licensing and testing is a way to hold you liable for your actions.

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Why the fuck would you need a license to drive a boat? Just go boating without the license. I'd much rather risk the very small chance of getting caught boating without a license than have to do all that work and still pay for the license.

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wait.... do they even have boats in toronto? i thought it was just a terrible place to live

Jun 13 2013 7:50PM

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Tillers are a lot of fun to drive, feel more connected to the boat. yeah, not so great on say an ocean where you simply need a bigger boat then a tiller can push.

And the old rule was under 10hp motor and the boat had to be over 3 meters long. so a 14 foot boot with a 10hp was good, and a 12 foot boat with a 6hp was not good. I told the cops off a few times when they tried to give me grief about being under 16. I also outran them on several occasions on a jet ski and tried (unsuccessfully) to get them to run aground in the shallow spots and rock reefs. Their boat had twin 90s or 75s and would run down my 40, but the jet ski would stay ahead and handle the shallows. I'll get them sooner or later.

The people just had a bubble sheet answer key and it was either pass or fail and be on your way, I never even knew my mark, they just said I passed.

I think the process of getting a drivers listens isn't even really comparable to this, I know here we have to take drivers ed in school which includes class room exams and drives in a car, then a year of having a learners only being able to drive with parents or older siblings in the passenger seat, then you go for a road test and finally given the license. I just hope the boater license never gets to be like that, which i doubt it ever will.

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