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I would get large, I have a pair of oakley loose fits in xl, (massive pants). tried on a pair of the traverse pants, armadas Xl isn't nearly that big, it's actually a much nicer fit IMO.
Bump, I am having second thoughts. how do the XL traverse compare to maybe XL saga anomies? Cause I have tried on anomie's? I am thinking L will not be baggy enough, or will it?
hm, I have really long legs? I did try on large armada shambles the other day and they were perfect. Not sure though, I am second guessing myself a lot. I am just gonna get L and see how it goes, if I dont like them I will just sell on ns. Thanks