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Some Reports of everyday iraqis in Falluja.

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BigRich
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Go to this link and read some of these. Its a different insight into what is actually happening and what its like. Tell me what you think.

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And here is the txt link in case i fuck this up

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4020053.stm
Nov 18 2004 10:33AM
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hucksterjibber15
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why does america want everywhere to be america??
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Nov 18 2004 1:35PM
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d-loc
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because we own everyone and all must follow and bow down to us. havent you seen this already?



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Nov 18 2004 1:36PM
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BrandonCool
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you got it wrong there!!! America must bow down to Canada!!!
Nov 18 2004 1:48PM
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Nov 18 2004 1:54PM
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KingShit
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Canada why are you talking shit? You would be nothing without US...


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Nov 18 2004 1:54PM
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BrandonCool
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w/e America wants all of Canada's resorces so America would be nothing without Canada!!!
Nov 18 2004 2:35PM
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Graves
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^ Yes your barren ice fields, small army, lack of major businesses (that weren't created in the US), highly socialistic government (in comparison to the US), failing socialized health care system, and absurdly ridiculous taxes are extreeeemely appealing to us. Which makes it all the more shocking that we haven't nuked Canada to kingdom-come yet and then claimed it as our own.

Check out this site too. This is a blog made by Iraqi citizens. They readily admit it is not perfect over there but they often talk about the many GOOD things that are occuring. Things that never occurred before. Things major media conglomerates like the extremely liberal BBC would never want you to see.

Iraq The Model


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Nov 18 2004 3:06PM
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http://www.iraqthemodel.blogspot.com

not sure why the link didnt work
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Nov 18 2004 3:08PM
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BrandonCool
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You guys nuked 2 cities because you cant go over there and fight them man to man!!!
Nov 18 2004 3:16PM
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^ WW2 vets are whips, I mean did they do anything?
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Nov 18 2004 3:21PM
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BrandonCool
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No they did not do much because America used the nukes which ended the war a few days later after the 2 cities were in ruins.
Nov 18 2004 3:24PM
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a great site for new from iraq.
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Nov 18 2004 3:31PM
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''When they attacked us'' - Rudolph Giuliani former republican mayor of NYC referring to Iraq in an interview on NBC news after the presidential debate
Nov 18 2004 3:45PM
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Graves
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^ There is some great irony in your photo considering that anyone marching in protest in the streets of Iraq during the Saddam regime would have been brutally slaughtered by the Iraqi National Army. They also lived for thirty years under a constitution that was not voted on by the Iraqi people. As soon as the insurgents are minimalized they will have their day to speak their voice and create a government of their choice. Hopefully that will occur this January as scheduled (looking doubtful at the moment).
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Nov 18 2004 8:13PM
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freeze_pooter
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yes 2 cities were nuked in WW2, but everyone one agrees that many more lives were saved by doing that rather than invading Japan. after that we did rebuild Japan, yes
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Nov 18 2004 9:49PM
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guddgulf17
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i dont want everywhere to be america. america can keep all its problems to itself. if the rest of the world was like america, with 5% of the population and consuming 30% of the resources, we would be screwed
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Nov 18 2004 9:59PM
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SKItheBURG
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dude canada's the shit. no one worries about canada. no one makes threads about canadian politics. they're just chill.
Nov 19 2004 1:35AM
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For the past 3 or so years, there have been more political arguments on NS than any site on the planet, people eventually get sick of it and stop fighting, then a new wave of newbies comes in and takes over. Fucking everything up all over again.


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Nov 19 2004 2:29AM
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hucksterjibber15
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^haha, so true
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Nov 19 2004 6:57AM
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canada is just still some kinda colony of england. canada sucks!

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Nov 19 2004 10:08AM
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Line101
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''^ Yes your barren ice fields, small army, lack of major businesses (that weren't created in the US), highly socialistic government (in comparison to the US), failing socialized health care system, and absurdly ridiculous taxes are extreeeemely appealing to us. Which makes it all the more shocking that we haven't nuked Canada to kingdom-come yet and then claimed it as our own. ''

Wow. I was under the impression that Graves wasn't a complete idiot, but unless this was a joke (I hope and pray that it was), it appears that I was way off with that assessment... please tell me this is a joke. Barren ice fields? Have you ever been to Canada? Now, without direct ties to the US (Say, if the border was shut completely), Canada would doubtless suffer greatly. However, so would the US. Half of California's power comes from BC, and New York's power depends heavily on Ontario. Not to mention the freshwater sources that flow from north of the 49th parallel... I would NOT want to see the Canucks decide to put up any barriers. Which is one reason why that softwood lumber money needs to be repaid. We don't need anymore Caroline Parrishes popping up in the Canadian houses of parliament... a national anti-american voting coalition in the house, given the minority government, does not bode well for Canada-US trade, and that hurts both nations. Don't look at this from such a narrow perspective. Canada consumes more per person than the US, and the US is their major trading partner. Can the US survive without Canada? Yes. Can Canada survive without the US? Yes. Would that situation help either country? Big, massive no.

As for Nuking the north and annexing it... I'm assuming that that part at least was a joke. I hope the rest is, too, but that was just idiotic... as if world opinion of the US isn't low enough.
Nov 19 2004 12:09PM
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SmoKinSkier
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I cant speak for him but just as the person who claimed that Canda owns the US clearly a joke im sure graves was using a hint of sarcasm!!




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Nov 19 2004 12:13PM
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J.D.
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^Well, he did give the guy the benefit of the doubt there... I'm sure he was kidding. Kind of a dumb joke, but there's just no way he's that dumb.

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Nov 19 2004 12:15PM
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Graves
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Thank you Smokin for detecting the sarcasm. However I hate the notion that comes from many Canadians on this site that Canada is soooo much better than the US. I was born in the States and wouldn't change that for a second. However, my mother's entire family was born in Canada before moving here. When people ask my heritage I usually respond by saying 50% American, 50% Canadian.

However, I truly believe that Canada's socialized healthcare system blows.

And Jaross next time you want to trash me, I would reccommend you find another way besides saying that I was stating the 'facts.' Who's the idiot now?
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Nov 19 2004 12:25PM
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Graves
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And now I have to edit my statement and replace Jaross with JarJar.
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Nov 19 2004 12:27PM
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J.D.
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^No, don't bother, they're more or less interchangeable. And canada's socialized health care system DOES blow. And I LIVE here. It's obviously totally screwed up right now... and I doubt things will improve without a Lib majority. They just can't accomplish anything, even though fixing health care is by far their #1 priority.

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Nov 19 2004 12:39PM
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^Hence the typo.
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Nov 19 2004 12:54PM
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yes gravis, what you said about my pic is true, however, i and aparently the people in that picture, do not beleve that the us government will let them make up their own goverment. we will enforce 'democracy' on them and the reason i use '' is becuase enforcing somthing on the people does not go along with the defionation of democracy. for instance, that is why you can have a scocialist democracy...
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Nov 19 2004 5:30PM
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the_friesz
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I find it strange that none of the Iraqi's interviewed in that article really blamed the US for the position they're in right now. Of course they mentioned the US but didn't say it America's fault that they had to leave their houses.


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