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max61195
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what is the reason why brands are changing to rockered park skis? for instance atomic, apparently there new punx have rocker. what's the reasoning?

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Feb 26 2013 6:20AM
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Jamartini
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It allows for the ski to have less contact point on boxes and rails so its easier to spin. Also it allows the ski not to catch a edge as much while turning because the rocker of the ski (if the geometry/shape is right) gives it a natural turn and the ski basically turns to the angle of its rocker, and looks really cool too
Feb 26 2013 7:19AM
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Crispy.
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It's kind of like a hit or miss thing where 2 things factor how the ski with rocker performs
1. If the company does it right
2. If you actually like rockered park skis, many people, including myself, do not. However, many do, you have to see what your opinion is on them.
Feb 26 2013 7:21AM
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LC.
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Rocker is the current buzzword in the industry. The public buy more skis if they feature "rocker technology".

I firmly believe that park skis should be traditional camber with maximum snow contact.
Feb 26 2013 9:40AM
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Goku
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Any aggressive front side ski should be all camber, no tip rocker or any rocker at all.
I'm talking to you K2, Volkl, and Nordica
Feb 26 2013 10:06AM
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Lord.Quasimoto
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a little bit of rocker right near the tip / tail is fun, anything more than that for park gets sketchy.
Feb 26 2013 12:15PM
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k2andcannoli
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Have you skied say the vkl rtm 87, rossi experience 88, blizz brahma. They are leaps better than their non rockered predecessors. Rocker makes skis sooo much faster edge to edge and will allow the ski industry to get people off of short skis.
Feb 26 2013 12:21PM
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Goku
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I have tried all except the Blizzard and I can honestly say I would much rather be one pair of Kendo's before tip rocker or a pair of racestock skis. If rocker is so great why is it not used on World Cup Skis? It's easier turning But doesn't hold any where near as hard of an edge and can't handle as powerful as carves
Feb 26 2013 12:28PM
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k2andcannoli
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I think thats a myth, once your ski is high on edge the entire skis effective edge (rockered+cambered sections) are engaged. In other words if you bend a ski in a turn it doesn't matter if it's rockered or not. What matters is how its made. As for racing. The fis enacted new rules this year which took race ski design back 20 years. Its obvious that race organizations are much more concerned with safety than speed....anyway, try the Brahma when you get a chance its new next winter. My hands were shaking after a few runs on it. 88 waist two layers of ti.
Feb 26 2013 4:45PM
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Goku
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That's not true. When you're on a cambered ski you can feel when you need to start letting off edge and by doing so the ski goes back to its natural arch shape and still maintaining a carve. When you have a a fully rockered or a a flat ski on edge and it starts to, we'll call it chatter, while on edge it either slips out, because the ski doesn't flex into camber which offers grip, or you have to completely exit the carve early/
Feb 26 2013 4:52PM
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jjdsteeze
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i ski park with surface one life's (extremely rockered) and i love it haha
Feb 26 2013 6:01PM
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k2andcannoli
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How much force does it take to decamber a ski? Maybe 5lbs. I cant see how a little rocker in the tip makes any difference on a skis ability to rebound when they all have over 90% cambered profile. I still stand by my argument that a rockered ski can edge just as hard as a non-rockered version of the same ski. In addition it will be faster edge to edge and can be sized 10+cm longer...anyway were not talking about a full rock or zero ski. Which are noodle-ish because they are ment to be soft and playful not stable and quick like an agressive fs ski.
Feb 26 2013 6:55PM
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Goku
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Too each there own. If i'm looking for a front side specific ski I'm not getting something with rocker
Feb 26 2013 6:57PM
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Stose
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I personally do not like rocker skis at all. They just feel too all over the place to me, and I like my nice cambered skis. I hate that the punx are now becoming rockered
Feb 26 2013 9:27PM
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LC.
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More edge is engaged when it's on edge, but how much depends on the degree of rocker. I care about landing stability though, so maximum effective length when the ski is flat-base, so no rocker.
Feb 27 2013 3:51AM
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