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Talk me out of wanting a d7000

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Mag
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I've been wanting to upgrade from the 550d, pretty much entirely because of the buffer, but In my eyes it certainly wasn't worth spending another £200 for a 60d just to get 1.3fps faster shooting and a 20 frames buffer vs the 6 of the t2i, but now I've seen the d7000, same price as the 60d but from what I see it's a hell of a lot better,


these are the advantages to me:

great noise handling even up to 6400 iso it seemed

6fps
(buffer is lacking at about 11/12 frames but that's good enough(can you set a slower continous shooting speed like on the 50/60d(?)?))

Significantly higher dynamic range(one of the main reasons I got a dslr)

2 sd slots

weatherproofing & magnesium body(partially)

1.5x crop vs canon's 1.62

POSSIBLY a much higher video resolution, when I watched a video comparision between the two at 1080p(supposedly) the d7000 was a lot sharper than the 5diii, but I have a feeling they may have just shot at 720p with the canon(somebody chime in here please(or maybe it was to do with in camera sharpening)

Excellent selection of lenses(although being stuck to mainly nikon and being unable to use other vintage lenses is kind of annoying, but it's really only a slight inconvenience)

Seems a lot of nikon lenses are af-s(apparently with full time manual focus?) this is a big plus to me, is it the equivalent of canon usm(speedwise)

Ability to use/share lenses with everyone I know.

Pentaprism(although having never used one I don't know how much of a difference this makes so I'm not really counting it)

41 af points, 9 cross type

Negatives:

Selling canon setup, but I'm not heavily invested and I won't lose much.

lack of 60p at all with the d7000, but I never find myself needing/wanting to use it.

a little bit trickier to manually expose in video mode

have to buy an intervalometer,

No equivalent of canon 70-200 f4 from what I could see, for the price anyway.



I'm trying to think of negatives to add to the list, I'm seriously considering getting it just for the huge advantages for the very little price increase.

inb4 camera doesn't make photographer


Feb 25 2013 11:58AM
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mlp
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Sounds like you want a d7000. As long as you don't mind Nikon lens got for it!
Feb 25 2013 12:26PM
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Mag
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I want a reason not to want it haha,
Feb 25 2013 12:30PM
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erikK
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it has an intervalometer built into it. and yes you can set the burst to slower frame rates, i think 2-5fps. the equivalent to the canon 70-200 f/4 is nikons older 80-200 f/2.8, really awesome lens for around $500.
Feb 25 2013 2:10PM
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Mag
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Wow this just gets better and better, yeah I heard about the 80-200, il check it out
Feb 25 2013 2:11PM
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Jacuse
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easy, wait for the D7100 next month http://www.gizmag.com/nikon-d7100-flagship-dx-dslr/26361/
Feb 25 2013 3:38PM
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p.hawks
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and then either pick up that or snag a cheap d7000. But if you want a reason not to get it, google about the oil splatter issue. Many people reported that over time (not much time though), that the shutter/mirror mechanism would actually spray oil onto the sensor. Not sure how prevalent this is or if it has been resolved
Feb 25 2013 3:52PM
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Mag
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considering that'd be about twice the price here, I'm fine. I don't think it's a huge improvement other than video, and even then it's only 720p60, + possibly better noise performance, but higher resolution is a negative to me.
Feb 25 2013 3:54PM
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snowisawesome
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I'll sell you my D7000 body for $625 shipped.  PM me if interested.
Feb 25 2013 4:08PM
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BolderPro
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I have a Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 for my nikon and it always held up real nice got it 4 or 5 years ago for $700
Feb 25 2013 4:21PM
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TWoods
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http://www.keh.com/camera/Nikon-Autofocus-Zoom-Lenses/1/sku-NA07999032018N?r=FE

80-200 f2.8 for $500. Same glass as the 80-200 I use, just different build.

Here's a 100% crop at f4 and 80mm:

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Feb 25 2013 4:28PM
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Mag
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seems that the 80-200 2.8 and variations of it are the only options for a ~£300 tele zoom, annoying given the weight.
Feb 25 2013 4:31PM
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gusestomp
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This is why

Feb 25 2013 4:33PM
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TWoods
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weight is such a non-issue considering that you can get a professional build lens with incredible IQ for $500. It's heavy because it's made of metal. You could beat a seal to death with it an it would still work when you were done.
Feb 25 2013 4:39PM
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p.hawks
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is this the standard for durability of telephoto lenses? are the white barrel on the canons an advantage or disadvantage in this regard?
but seriously, I have heard a lot of great things about it, I know some people use them on the gh2 even, and I think my friend has this lens (I know he has an older fast nikon zoom in the same range), and it is one of his favorites?
Feb 25 2013 4:54PM
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TWoods
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I use mine on my GH2. And yes, seal clubbing is the benchmark. The white barrel on the canon is neither an advantage or disadvantage, only a matter of personal preference in regards presentation; the white barrel displays the blood while a black barrel will mask it.

I use mine on my GH2, it works great.
Feb 25 2013 4:57PM
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eheath
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I mean if you're looking for a camera for just taking photos why don't you get a 5dc or 1dm2/3?
Feb 25 2013 5:03PM
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Mr_Bump
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haha I've only just started browsing this forum, all the hidden gems are in media and arts

I promise not to tell NSG
Feb 25 2013 5:08PM
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Mag
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Not to mention white barrels are more camouflaged in the winter environment, won't see it coming.

@Eheath I would go for a 1dii/n but annoyingly I can't really sacrifice video, I'd be fine with 720p30 but no less, and I want decent iso capabilities.
Feb 25 2013 5:08PM
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eheath
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TBH it sounds like you're at the point where you might just need two bodies.

Selling your t2i isn't exactly gonna yield much profit so you might as well bite the bullet and buy a photo cam and keep the t2i. You won't get any better video (minus ISO performance) from a newer camera body. Id suggest a 40d, 1dm2 or 5dc man, keep the t2i.
Feb 25 2013 5:31PM
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Mag
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Problem with a 1d/5d is I've got crop lenses.

I don't think I'd go for the 5d, sure ff would be cool but I'm not in need of it, and It's around the same price as the d7000.
The 1diin would be a definite possibility, but how does it handle noise? what's it usable up to, and compared to the 550d? and even then I'm having to shell out another $650 which is a lot to me haha.
Feb 25 2013 5:54PM
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sweatshirt
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If I was you I'd buy a used 7d and keep your t2i body, that way you can have two bodies and don't have to switch your lens lineup, the noise performance may not be as good as a d7000 but you will get the weather sealed body with fast fps and good buffer, and you already know how to work the canon menu system /button layout.. and having 720p 60fps if you ever need it couldn't hurt, not to mention nikon doesn't have magic lantern
Feb 25 2013 5:59PM
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Mag
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I don't see why I'd get a 7d,
they're over $1000 here
they have a fast burst and a lot more af points sure, but not much else over the 550d.
Feb 25 2013 6:06PM
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buttrapinpirate
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I was lazy and didn't read what everyone else has to say, but from using a D700, a D800 and a D3X, the 51 point AF is far superior to the whatever the fuck the D7000 is. I kind of hate the D7000 AF. It sucks balls in comparison. Don't know your budget but that's what makes it for me
Feb 25 2013 6:42PM
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steezysteeze
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This makes me want to make the switch to Nikon really badly.
Feb 25 2013 7:11PM
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steezysteeze
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This makes me want to make the switch to Nikon really badly.
Feb 25 2013 7:11PM
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DIX~
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Take a look at the D7100 then. All this and more
Feb 25 2013 8:28PM
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JuliusJ
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im waiting on the 7dii official specs and then deciding from there whether i stick with canon or switch to a d7100
Feb 25 2013 9:05PM
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zbphoto
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This, 30-50d are all awesome photo cameras, not to mention they're cheap. ISO doesn't go up as high as more modern dslr's but the noise performance is awesome. Fast focus, fast burst, good build. Probably going to get a 40d as a backup eventually.
Feb 25 2013 9:30PM
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michael_bc
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This is a non-issue blown up all over the internet. After you buy the camera some excess oil might spray onto the sensor. You just wipe it off with whatever cleaning kit. It takes less than a minute.
Feb 26 2013 6:44AM
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michael_bc
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The D7000 is a pretty sick deal right now. I would recommend a D7000 for two reasons:

1) Exceptional dynamic range. The D7000 has all the sensors of the above-mentioned Canons beat. I would avoid old cameras specifically over this: lousy dynamic range.

2) Plays nice with such a large selection of lenses. AF motor, AF fine tuning, meters with all kinds of old lenses...

One reason not to buy it is the uncertainty around the DX system. Nikon does have some fantastic DX glass (10.5mm f/2.8, 12-24mm f/4, 17-55mm f/2.8, 35mm f/1.8) but it is not clear if Nikon will ever fill in the gaps (16mm, 20mm, 24mm), if DX might switch to a mirrorless design, or if DX might be dropped altogether. DX is now filling up this awkward gap between CX and FX, and therefore it's clear DX will never have Nikon's full attention.

I would very seriously look into the Olympus OM-D and Fuji X-E1 before buying a D7000. I'd make a list of lenses I want covered and then compare the total cost of a potential system. Still I think the D7000 might come out the most affordable system. People are dumping a lot of great second hand DX glass.
Feb 26 2013 6:48AM
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p.hawks
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wasn't supposed to be a question at the end
Feb 26 2013 7:16AM
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Mag
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I'm not really looking for a mirrorless camera, also from what I've seen the d7000 handles noise better than the om-d, and the om-d is a lot more. I didn't really bother looking into the fuji given the specs.

I'd seen the pentax k-5 which specs wise looks good, and I've heard a lot of people rave about it.

So far it's looking like either keep the 550d/keep and buy a 40d, or buy a d7000, or possibly a pentax k-5, but I don't know much about the pentax lens lineup at all.
Feb 26 2013 7:39AM
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michael_bc
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Pentax has some nice lenses (16-50, 50-135), but many of the good ones are available for Nikon or Canon as well under the Tokina brand...
Feb 26 2013 10:05AM
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icantskiiFILM
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I own the D7000. I film shows in Tampa and it works well in low light. ISO goes up pretty high with minimal noise. Its pretty fast and all that, but a lot of the time i wish i had Canon because it shoots 60 frames per second. I still love my D7000 though
Feb 26 2013 12:34PM
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The_Future
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I just bought the d7000 less than a month ago and I absolutely love it (I also upgraded from just a d40 haha). I also have no regrets about not waiting for the d7100 to officially be released. The price isn't dropping anymore than what it had before the d7100 announcement since they are keeping the d7000 in their lineup.

I shot this sequence last weekend at 6fps w/ my new 35mm prime... just learning how to use photoshop too.
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Mar 1 2013 10:43AM
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Mag
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Yeah I just bought one, good price and only 65 actuations(wtf?) can't wait to get it, thinking il get a 35 at first and maybe 85 after.

That's a sweet sequence future, impressively fast
Mar 1 2013 10:57AM
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