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Byron_tha_gr8
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so a couple weeks ago, a kid a know fairly well ripped a binding out of his ski for no real fault of his own. seeing a fellow skier in need, when he asked me for my my armada thalls for a few days i agreed. a few days turned into around 4 weeks, and i just got them back tonight. when i lent them to him they had 2 small core shots, they now have around ten ( he did fill them), bent brakes, a half blown out edge, and a tip that has begun to separate. These skis weren't rock skis before, but now they are. I assumed he might get a few scratches and maybe another core shot or 2, which i could live with, but he pretty much trashed them. Should i ask him for some money? Im not sure, and i hate pressuring people in awkward situations, but i think this might be one of those times. what should i do?
Dec 12 2012 10:01PM
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p-fo
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Rape him.
Dec 12 2012 10:02PM
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DUKES
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you let him borrow your own damn skis. its your fault. be a man and move on
Dec 12 2012 10:03PM
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joshua
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Is he a decent kid? (As in, did he do this intentionally, or took advantage of the fact that they weren't his skis?)

I would say that, at the end of the day, its only a pair of skis. If you are friends with the kid, and he didn't mean to trash your skis, then its probs not worth being a drama queen and asking for money.
Dec 12 2012 10:06PM
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Byron_tha_gr8
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kind of my normal response, it was my fault for letting him borrow them, but he said 2-4 days. i assumed that would be true, but he just kept on using them. ive let kids borrow my skis for a day or two and its never really been an issue. i never assumed they would get trashed this bad in 2 weeks.
Dec 12 2012 10:07PM
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Stickity
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tell the kid to give you $100 or something
Dec 12 2012 10:07PM
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Byron_tha_gr8
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he seems pretty chill, but he also skied them on steep terrain with low snow pack. if he was just skiing park and they got a little fucked id be ok, but most people would not have skied them as hard as he did at all
Dec 12 2012 10:09PM
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walrussteeze
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The only feasible solution
Dec 12 2012 10:13PM
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Jessie406
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ask him for money, you did him a favour by lending them out .. and he treated your skis like shit, and kept them longer. Also, when he gave them back did he say sorry.. or mention anything?? like ask him to go get them fix and bring them back to you. or just money for sure... its not rude. what he did was
Dec 12 2012 10:14PM
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D.Mac
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Yes

Dec 12 2012 10:14PM
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Jessie406
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also, the awkward thing would be to say no next time he ask to borrow something cause he trashes shit
Dec 12 2012 10:15PM
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Hammyslapwagon
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What is a core shot?
Dec 12 2012 10:17PM
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Pancake_Fucker
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That wouldn't be awkward at all.
Dec 12 2012 10:19PM
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Jessie406
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when you hit a rock and it takes a chunk out of your ski .. takes a chunk of your ski straight to your core... like a deep scratch . there yea go
Dec 12 2012 10:20PM
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FroesenSkeeze
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I never lend my shit out to people because I know they won't treat it as good as I would. If my skis are going to be damaged, by god it is ME who is going to damage them through my own enjoyment. For your situation, don't ask for money, but don't lend your stuff out again. The way people treat other's possessions is a good judge of character, and in my experience, people are bad.
Dec 12 2012 10:45PM
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Byron_tha_gr8
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no, he just kept thanking me for using them every time i saw him which now makes sense, h never apologized or hinted that he wrecked them . he just kept saying, "thanks for letting me use your skis, your'e awesome, ill get you them back soon", i think ill ask for $50-75. also he fixed them as much as possible but they are past the pint of repair.
Dec 12 2012 10:46PM
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Hammyslapwagon
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This .......or you could beat the shit out of him
Dec 12 2012 10:46PM
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Stickity
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the kid trashed his skis and kept them for a month. he should definitely ask for money. you said yourself how people treat other's stuff is a good judge of character and this kid obviously fucked up big time and shouldn't just get away with it
Dec 12 2012 10:48PM
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Jessie406
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so you cant ski them anymore???!!! well tell him too make you two shot skis out of them and give you money for new skis if thats the case. shitty
Dec 12 2012 10:48PM
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Byron_tha_gr8
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they are still skiable, but i probably could have sold them for around $175-250. now id be lucky to get $75
Dec 12 2012 10:51PM
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ShredMasterPlus
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Generally if you borrow something you return it in the same shape or better. If you fuck something up that bad its new skis.
Dec 12 2012 10:52PM
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pjbackwoods
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You look hot. Pm me with a time and place.
Dec 12 2012 10:58PM
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Malcolm
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I think you should have asked for them back way earlier. You knew he was beating them up in the park
Dec 12 2012 11:02PM
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OP is this your only set of sticks?
Dec 12 2012 11:03PM
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theschneidler
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Take all of his toilet paper as payment.
Dec 12 2012 11:06PM
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Lucas
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honestly it's your fault for letting him keep them that long... If you know someone skis hard you can't expect skis that are being skied in the park to be in perfect shape. That being said it seems like you already made your mind up about asking him for money and your just trying to justify it.
Dec 12 2012 11:09PM
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Byron_tha_gr8
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im actually in bozeman, wanna hit a rail??!!?

Dec 12 2012 11:25PM
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Byron_tha_gr8
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it wan't in the park, it was in questionable pow, and yes im just looking for confirmation
Dec 12 2012 11:26PM
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Byron_tha_gr8
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and i have 141 waisted coreupts and these, so these are my only viable non pow day skis

Dec 12 2012 11:27PM
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NinetyFour
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I'd straight up show him what he did because it's the only way he'll really learn to take care of stuff that isn't his; but I wouldn't force him or ask him for money/compensation or whatever. Personally I really only let people I know well borrow stuff and try stuff out. I'm a pretty frugal and obsessive compulsive person when it comes to lending stuff to people.

If you post some pics though we can maybe help you out with some DIY repair advice so you can get back to skiing.
Dec 12 2012 11:51PM
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Drail
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problem with lending people your shit is that sometimes it gets damaged. If your friend is a good person he should have offered you compensation for damaging your skis. I've had friends lose or break shit of mine that they were borrowing and they either compensated me with money or just replaced whatever they broke/lost. I've had to replace things for people as well. That's just what good people do in situations like that.

This is pretty much THE reason why I don't let people drive/borrow my car. There is a very, very short list of people I will allow to drive my car. They have to a) own a car of their own and b) be trustworthy and financially well off. Straight up - if I let someone drive my car and they crash it, they owe me a new car. It's as simple as that. I've had friends 'lend' cars out to people for a few months while they were out of town and not using them. The person totals said vehicle and... well, it's just a bad scene.

Sorry to say it, but unless you agreed on something before hand, he isn't obligated to compensate you for your damaged skis. As I said earlier: if he is a nice person, he would have already offered you compensation. Since he hasn't, you will have to ask, and generally, if you have to ask, you're not going to get anything but a defensive friend who probably won't give you shit but attitude.
Dec 13 2012 12:08AM
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Lucas
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their is no way someone damaged skis that much in a month of riding pow... I smell fishy
Dec 13 2012 12:14AM
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Steeze_Irwin
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offer to sell them to him for like $300 or something u feel comfortable with. if he says no thanks just remind him how much he fucked them over
Dec 13 2012 1:19AM
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Stickity
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don't be stupid. if he's saying it was in pow you should beat his ass and demand money
Dec 13 2012 2:02AM
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Byron_tha_gr8
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it was the opening 3 days at bridger so i know it wasnt park seeing as they have none
Dec 13 2012 2:16AM
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Bateman
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well that sucks major ballsack.



I suggest you ask for money. You gave him nice skis, he got them back to you fucked. I feel like the reason he didn't give them back to you sooner was because they were so beaten up that he took them to the shop for them to fill the core-shots or whatever you called it. Unless he did it himself which seems.. Unlikely?


Anyhow,
He fucked something of great value to you, so you could fuck something of great value to him, say.. his mom?
Dec 13 2012 3:22AM
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TheHERDSkiing
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this, you were awesome lending them to him, but he didn't really care enough that they were your skis to be careful with them so you can totally ask for money to repair or get new ones in my opinion. If he doesn't want to show him this thread, there are enough people to back you up here.
Dec 13 2012 3:28AM
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OG_Loc
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something i learned not too long ago.. if you loan something out, make sure they know that the need to repair anything damaged, and avoid borrowing shit. it just put a damper on a friendship when you run into these situations, you got shafted pretty bad this time but next time you'll know. also, does he need to pay YOU back? or your parents?
Dec 13 2012 4:32AM
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Byron_tha_gr8
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me. dairy queen grill master 4 lyfe
Dec 13 2012 7:58AM
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Huck_Norris
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Wait, so you don't really even know this kid? 

Damn.  That's kind of silly. 

Still though, I'd be fuckin HEATED.  He was supposed to have them for a few days and after a few WEEKS he hands them back to you completely fucked?  Oh hell no.  You don't repay a generous deed by abusing someone's shit man.  You just don't. 

I don't even know what I'd want but jesus fkn christ I'd be so fuckin' mad. 

Dec 13 2012 8:25AM
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Byron_tha_gr8
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UPDATE: i do know him pretty well, ive talked to him and hung out with him since september. however, i got them back last night, got all pissy, put them in our dorm area ski locker, and went to bed. this morning? GONE! kid borrowed them again without ever talking to me. (now before you all go apeshit and say "wow op lock your fucking skis", we only have room in the ski locker for each of us to actually lock 1 pair of skis, and i have chosen to lock my Coreupt Watch Outs. they are worth more to me.) I had said he could use them a few days ago, but i had no idea how wrecked they were. this has gotten ridiculous! I know its partially my fault, but when i borrow something i treat it with respect, and i told him in the beginning to do the same. what is a real solution?

also never letting him borrow my shit again. and finding some way to lock my skis.
Dec 13 2012 10:33AM
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joshua
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Then why are you mad? If you care so much about these skis then stop lending them out, plain and simple. Just tell him not to use them anymore.
Dec 13 2012 10:40AM
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FroesenSkeeze
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Cut your losses, fade the friendship, learn your lesson. Stop lending stuff out without a hefty security deposit.
Dec 13 2012 10:50AM
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NToTheZ
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I'd tell him to pay up or I'm whooping your ass. If he's your "friend" there should be no problem about him paying since he fucked your shit up. I hate lending people money or my things and them taking advantage of me, it sucks to lose friends over shit like this.
Dec 13 2012 10:58AM
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kebbek
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Tell him that you are not happy about it, and call her mother so she knows what he did. If they decide to give you money, it's all good. If not, it isn't your friend anymore.
Dec 13 2012 11:05AM
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PUFFY
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Dec 13 2012 11:21AM
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d.mcknight
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kick the big bastards ass
Dec 13 2012 11:22AM
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d.mcknight
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kick the big bastards ass
Dec 13 2012 11:23AM
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Huck_Norris
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Dude as much as I want to feel bad for you, you 're just opening the door again and again. 

Dec 13 2012 11:31AM
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Dirty.Harry.
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I agree, except asking for them back only goes so far because it requires the other party (aka this kid) to agree and actually give them back. If you asked every day you saw him and he just kept saying "yeah, when I remember to next time I see you," then it's on him and not you.

OP did a nice thing and this kid took advantage of that. The agreement was a few days (according to OP) and that was violated KNOWINGLY by the kid, at which point the skis were wrecked. If I were that kid, I would replace what I broke (maybe trade a new/newer pair of comparable skis for the wrecked ones).
Dec 13 2012 11:36AM
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snakerton
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This. the kid fucked up
Dec 13 2012 11:36AM
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