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avocado.
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post some ideas how to explain the need for more skiis than one. lets help all the kids convincing their patents, or maby to convince yourself?
Dec 3 2012 3:10PM
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Karma_Police
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Honestly I don't see the need for anythign over 120 anymore. Maybe that's personal preference but anything bigger than that is A) to heavy B) floats too much. I like face shots, no homo.
Dec 4 2012 1:07AM
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Karma_Police
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AKA POOL Q's. Dude, those things are like XXL's but way more rad and rare. Good on you bro.
Dec 4 2012 1:10AM
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iffe
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Hell yeah. Chronic and Opus is my quiver (plus beat to shit Elizabeths as rock skis) and it's awesome.
Dec 4 2012 11:32AM
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popNfresh44
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because it's seriously not easy to ski deep pow in center mounted park skis and its seriously not easy to do stuff in the park with pow skis.

there are skis that can do everything quite well though, my 07 seth vicious for example
Dec 4 2012 12:17PM
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ikindalikeskiing
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-carving ski
-park ski
-pow ski
-beater pow ski
Dec 4 2012 12:37PM
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Static
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real talk.
Dec 4 2012 12:46PM
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Drail
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having a ski quiver can be dangerous for your mental health. You start by thinking "I need two pairs of skis", next thing you know you're like the crazy hoarder lady with a house full of skis, and constantly on a search for that 'last' pair to complete your set.


seriously though, I'll be up to a 5 ski quiver by the end of December.

Inbounds pow ski (186, 115mm underfoot, rocker on nose and tail, flat underfoot, soft flex with FKS's)

Inbounds/slackcountry ski (190, 116mm underfoot, rocker nose and tail, camber underfoot, stiff flex with Dukes)

Touring only ski (187, 112mm underfoot, rocker nose and tail, flat underfoot, stiff flex with Dynafits)

Park ski (182, 100mm underfoot, normal camber, soft flex with STH)

Rail skis (172, 89mm underfoot, normal camber, soft flex with random binding parts from Rossi and Dynastar)

I would very much like a pair of pipe skis, but I pretty much never ski pipe anymore so I can't actually bring myself to getting a pair... as well, I hardly ever use my "inbounds pow skis" so I might sell them at some point this winter.



Dec 4 2012 2:01PM
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ScottyN
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ONE SKI QUIVER!
Line Blends 2010-11

I ski the indoor slopes (rails boxes jump) in the Uk. Head up to scotland for the occasional mini trip (skiing the crud) head out to the alps for 4 weeks a year (xmas - powder, hiking, park if theve built one yet. bumps, hooning the groomers) (february - noramlly a pow trip) (easter- slush, maybe late season heavy dump, skiing crud and slush) (week in Saas Fee training pipe and park)

100mm, rocker and it does everything. BEST BUY not doubt.
Dec 4 2012 3:42PM
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Elmo.
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i have a 3 ski quiver.

park ski
older ski / yard ski
urban ski

if i had the money it would be

park ski
park ski
urban ski
pow ski
touring ski

Dec 4 2012 3:54PM
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BskiP
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just because you do everything on it, doesnt mean it is the best ski for everything.
Dec 4 2012 4:25PM
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XtRemE11
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what are these inbounds pow skis you have? 115, rocker tip and tail and flat underfoot and soft seems nice!
Dec 4 2012 5:03PM
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Karma_Police
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Like, those people are dumb.

I have buddies that get 100 days in at baker and they don't even ride 115+ waist skis.  Maybe if they ONLY ride on powder days but again that sound stupid.

Better skiers being able to drive fatter skis?  Please tell me why then does Eric H. have his pro models at 113 waist and 122.

I think if you ask the majority of big mountain pros they'll bluntly state that they don't go much bigger than 120.  Reason?  It takes away the cushion of deep snow.

I ride an older ehp as my powder ski (116) under waist.  I also ski at a mountain that averages 560" a year and I sold my hellbents the season after we got 780.
Dec 4 2012 5:06PM
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Huck_Norris
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You think?!

Dec 4 2012 5:20PM
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the-big-lepowski
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because the industry wants to make more money and you, the consumer, can often afford more than one. I increased my quiver by %50 by making a choice stop at the goodwill to pick up a pair of $15 rossi's from the early 90's. Excellent rock ski, mogul ski, decent rail ski and a very proficient shotski, all rolled into a pricetag less than the cost to repair a nasty coreshot on my powder skis.
Dec 4 2012 5:34PM
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585.
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this defines east coast skiing right here
Dec 4 2012 5:37PM
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Stickity
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because he prefers a somewhat narrower pow ski? he probably CAN drive a fatter ski, just likes something narrower more so. you're acting like everything said is an absolute that applies to everyone
Dec 4 2012 5:43PM
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Drail
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1st year Moment Bibby's. Really fun ski for bouncing around.
Dec 4 2012 5:52PM
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XtRemE11
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why the fuck does it matter that people are skiing wide ass skis? yeah i could ski powder on 85 waist park skis but its not half as much fun as on a 130 waist huge rocker, soft unsinkable boat. i dont live in alaska, but guess what? my ski is well over 115 and i still ski it! even on non powder days, shit even in the park, because its a fun ass ski, and its fun because its huge, and soft and rockered. it makes perfect sense to me, fat skis are fun, i ski for fun, so im going to continue to ski on skis that i dont "need"

what doesnt make sense, is skiing on something thats less fun, and less capable, because you dont need to.
Dec 4 2012 5:55PM
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ski0
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The good thing about owning multiple pais of skiis is that they will all last a long time. I went through at least 1 pair a season when I only had one, but now I have 4 pairs for specific uses and they tend to last 3-4 years (maybe a little less for rails) .


I got :
Touring
All Terrain/powder fat skiis
Park Skiis
Dec 4 2012 5:56PM
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Karma_Police
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I'm just making reference to a pro model of a guy who skis some of the deepest lightest pow on a regular basis.

EH can drive any plank he wants to but chooses to ski on a more narrow pow ski. All I'm saying is that powder skis in the 125-140+ WAIST range IMO should be the rarity instead of the norm. Then again I don't really care wtf anyone skis on and this rant is one of personal preference. The kids on the site should note thought that bigger does NOT always mean better.
Dec 4 2012 6:01PM
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Stickity
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SO WHY ARE YOU EVEN POSTING.
Dec 4 2012 6:04PM
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.squirrely.
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dynastar sixth sense- stiff everyday park ski
surface double time- if we get any pow or just another park ski
rossi s4- urban/ backyard
Dec 4 2012 6:44PM
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hempcalifornia
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GS Skis (freeride skis)
Slalom Skis
Rock Skis
Urban Skis
Powder Skis
Dec 4 2012 7:03PM
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250r
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the 120-140 range is perfect for skis that have a lot reverse sidecut like praxis protests/pow boards or the DPS lotus 138s. Thats what people need to start making more of, sidecut doesnt work in powder.
Dec 4 2012 7:15PM
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BagOTricks
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Pow, Park, used skis for Urban?
Dec 4 2012 7:17PM
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skiEER
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pow
park
SL
GS
Tele
tele pow
At Pow
light AT
rock
all mountain
Snowboard park
snowboard pow

yeah i have way too many skis
Dec 4 2012 8:48PM
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Lemuel
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I currently have 4 pairs of skis mounted up

Rossi S3 as my every day park pow ski
Lizzies because they are incredibly fun (hangover days)
Invaders as my rock / urban / whatever skis
One Lifes which I am trying to get rid of, but clearly for pow
Dec 4 2012 9:07PM
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Montana_Hoodrat
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holy shit.

your garage must look like the consignment rack at our ski shop.


Dec 4 2012 9:11PM
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skiEER
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yeah between me and my brother we have 20 plus pairs of skis
Dec 4 2012 9:29PM
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Karma_Police
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Why are you yelling?
Dec 4 2012 10:29PM
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Montana_Hoodrat
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im jelly of your toy collection
Dec 4 2012 10:29PM
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Karma_Police
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Have you skied 138's/praxis pows on groomers, bumps, anything else besides untracked aka anything back to the lift? They're not that fun imo. While I agree the 138 and pow are fantastic skis they are very specific skis for very specific applications. Honestly I would take the 120 over the 138 any day unless UNLESS I'm skiing ak or heli untracked shit. How many times are you sledding/helling to completely untracked lines? If your answer is often then yes it makes sense, if not you're better off getting something that can handle a bit of variable conditions. Who knows maybe people on here are getting 40+ days of untracked super deep blower powder days.
Dec 4 2012 10:41PM
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division.bell
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This, this, this!

If you can justify a pair of skis for a certain type of riding, you'll probably have more than one pairs of skis.

I will have 4 pairs in my quiver this winter, and one is a 135mm waisted, super-rockered pow ski that is honestly the most fun I've ever had on skis. If I only get to ride them once or twice a season, it'll more than likely be worth having them around for those one or two days. But I do take them out on less deep days because they are so much damn fun to ride.
Dec 4 2012 10:47PM
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250r
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Your right, praxis pows would make terrible resort skis. Protests are a good amount more manageable though. 128mm, with some sidecut and camber underfoot, yet they still have the spatula type design. Will likely be the next skis i buy. I'll use them for the deep deep days, which we have relatively often here, and charging around in bounds when i have alpine bindings on them. I'll also probably swiss cheese them with inserts and use my radical FTs on them as a slackcountry set up. Im sure I'll get plenty of use out of them.
Dec 4 2012 10:58PM
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iffe
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I like how fat skis feel and that's why I prefer them. Basically I have more fun riding them. Pretty dumb, huh?
Dec 5 2012 4:48AM
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Newschool_Pope
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i have my perfect 4 ski quiver.

82 mm cambered punx. for jumps and rails / future spins
90 mm domains, for buttery slushy and urban skiing
108 mm rocker 2s with touring binding for hiking
127 mm magic Js for the deep days

all conditions covered. could not be more happy.
Dec 5 2012 5:03AM
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iffe
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But sir, how are you going to perform future spins in an urban environment? Seems like a visit to the ski shop is in order!
Dec 5 2012 5:10AM
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Newschool_Pope
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got some old punx lying around for future urban missions
Dec 5 2012 6:03AM
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