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I am a ski boot noob and I need input on making a choice (aside from "make sure they fit")

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EasySteezy45
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Hey guys sorry in advance if I irritate anyone for asking a boot question. I know people on here get touchy and just say "go search" or "go try them on" yadda yadda. Truth is I dont have a local ski shop to try on the kind of boots i am interested in. I also have NEVER owned a pair of my own ski boots. I am a poor motherfucker, either that or i am cheap, either way I decided its time. I have been skiing a pair of Lange comp 100 ski boots that were custom fit for someone else so I am sure any decision I make will be fine but seeing as how I am cheap I want to make the right decision.

The kind of skiing I do is all mountain and I like to drop natural features with the occasional flip/360. I also like to charge stuff pretty hard so I am thinking somewhat stiff. However I want a Light boot, I am a pretty small guy 5'8" 140 so I also want a light boot that doesnt feel like an anchor.

These are the boots I am considering

Dalbello Voodoo (if the Moro il is significantly better that is also an option)

FT Konflicts (I dont really want to be a trend whore, but if its a good boot its a good boot)

Ace of spades?

I was also considering the FT classics but I dont think they are aggresive enough.

The kryptons seem a little too expensive although I hear they are awesome.

PS I have small feet and chicken legs.

Suggestion welcome +K to cool people
Nov 14 2012 5:14PM
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EasySteezy45
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Nov 14 2012 7:12PM
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Forcillo
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http://www.atomic.com/en-US/Products/Alpine/Boots/All%20Mountain/BURNER_110/AE5006740.aspx?filter=

Atomic Burner 110. This looks like a great charger boot. If you're worried it's too soft, there's a Burner 130 which is stiffer.

But you need to find out how different brands/boots fit (last, forefoot, toebox, heel, etc.)
Nov 14 2012 7:16PM
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rql
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Are your feet either narrow or wide? I'm pretty much the same size as you. I have narrow feet and when i was trying on boots, Dalbello or Fulltilt were my best options.

I say Dalbello Boss or Voodoos or Fulltilt Classics for the cheaper bang for you buck.

If money isn't an issue definitely go for the Il Moro T ID.

But in the end make sure they fit :P

hope that helps.
Nov 14 2012 7:40PM
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4man
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I have tried on all the boots you have listed and I chose the full tilts BECAUSE they fit my foot the best. If you are seriously gonna buy without trying them on then I guess I would recommend the FTs (I like mine) but I also here good things about the il Moros.
Nov 14 2012 7:43PM
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EasySteezy45
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did you go with the konflicts of the classics. I just feel like the classics might be too soft, if i could order them with a flex ten tongue that would be great, not sure i want to spend an extra 50 bucks then have a set of tongues ill never use.

I can probably go 500-600 dollar range (less would be also great)

BTW for those who have tried on/picked up the moro and voodoo, how was their weight?
Nov 14 2012 8:18PM
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rql
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Fulltilts are lighter than them all, Go for the konflicts if you want to spend the money. If I remember correctly the voodoos aren't light but, they aren't heavy either. Il Moros are slightly on the lighter side.
Nov 14 2012 8:25PM
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tomPietrowski
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First thing to consider is that its not just the boots your buying. You will need a set of footbeds to get the best fit. A footbed will put your foot back into a neutral position often changing the shape of your foot. Customs will generally cost about $200 but are worth every penny. Obviously you will need them making in a shop though.

So now take your budget and take off $200, what you have left you should spend on the boot. But you need to go get fitted at the very least. Getting the shell check is the only way you can check if a boot fits. You cant just measure the foot and know a boot in that size will fit.

If you dont have a local shop then surely the place you ski at will. Go there and chat to there top boot fitter they can help you find the best boots for you.
Nov 15 2012 12:11AM
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EasySteezy45
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I will really need a custom footbed? I will need them even with the custom fit boot liners?
Nov 15 2012 5:08AM
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I_Am_Mod
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depends, for me a regular sports footbed already did wonders, the 3 boots/types of boot you listed are all pretty similar. From personal experience i'd say the FT have the narrowest fit which was also the reason i didn't end up buying them but went with the AoS instead ...
since you have small (narrow?) feet and weight is a big deal for you, FT might be your thing! since they are a whole lot lighter than the average skiboot !

but still, i'm gonna give you the advice you didn't ask for and that is: go for the boot that fits best !
Nov 15 2012 5:25AM
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S.Ki
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I wonder why you did not list the FT First chair. You can get a pair from previous season for a good price and they are pretty stiff aswell. Plus FT are basically the lightest boots of all the boots you listed.
Measure your foot and try to do some research about the boots online. You can find a lot of information online and even if you dont have a local shop or a bootfitter around in your area you can still find a boot that will fit your foot.
Nov 15 2012 7:16AM
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EasySteezy45
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I guess youre right the first chair is only like 20 bucks more...600 bucks is getting up their though, i guess i have some thinking to do.
Nov 15 2012 2:59PM
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4man
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Ya I went with the konflicts and they have been pretty good so far other than a buckle going kinda wonky. And full tilts are gonna be the lightest
Nov 15 2012 10:26PM
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TripleBlack
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Dalbello voodoos are a bit on the softer side, if you're set on a stiff boot they might not be for you.
Nov 15 2012 10:48PM
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EasySteezy45
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what do you mean wonky? like it got loose or something? If you could do it over again would you still get them, you can get some pretty great boots for the price of konflicts. any other complaints?
Nov 15 2012 10:48PM
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Poikenz
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just a warning: Yes, you are probably going to hate what I have to say but it is helpful.

1. If a store doesn't carry the boots you want then don't get the boots you want (you don't even know if they will be good for you so why bother? because they are pretty? sounds like a waste of your money more than being cheap). A boot doesn't have to look cool or be freestyle oriented in order to be awesome as tits. Like many people have been suggesting as a cool idea lately a blindfold test would be awesome for picking out boots because looks mean nothing, if it really matters you can always dye them pure black. Just because a store doesn't carry a 3 piece boot doesn't mean that they don't have a good selection. Besides I don't even see what the hype is, I find the flex in a two piece a hell of a lot better, but I guess it's all personal preference. Also brand loyalty in ski boots is stupid. If a company changes their mold and they don't fit well anymore let them burn and get something else.

2. This comment might help you out. Go to a doctor get them to check out your feet and so on, if you have bad feet good job BECAUSE you can now get FREE footbeds if you get a doctors note and are covered by insurance! YAY!

3. Bottom line the kind of boots you want seem like pretty boy boots and are going to be a bad, cheap decision better than the right cheap decision. And stop ignoring the fitting advice, there is a reason why so many people say it.
Nov 16 2012 12:04PM
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EasySteezy45
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What do you mean by pretty boy boots? as opposed to gnar-kid boots which would be some old boots from good will?

your input is fine but im asking about things like weight and flex etc. not fit I will figure that out, just trying to get input from people who have tried them

plus i dont really give a damn if people think its "pretty boy boot" if it fits and meets my requirements it makes no difference to me what people think about them.
Nov 16 2012 3:14PM
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Poikenz
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Well you are basing your decisions off of looks, or at least that's what it comes off as. If you know nothing about the boots why do you have them picked out?

Weight in a ski boot doesn't really matter, I suppose it does to some people, but the only time I would think about it would be if I were going to be touring, but then you wouldn't even be thinking about a "park" boot.
Nov 16 2012 4:01PM
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EasySteezy45
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I am not basing it on looks whatsoever, I think the konflicts are ugly personally(not a fan of brown, really loved the dark military green). I chose these boots based on three piece design, price range, flex, and weight. The reason I am worried about weight is because I am a smaller guy and I want to be a little more poppy and nimble when I am skiing I have been skiing with a pair of cinder blocks for as long as I can remember.

This brings up another question, is there a downside to having lighter boots? I assume you might not be quite as fast? but what else?
Nov 17 2012 4:50AM
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WI_Personallty
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sigh. Go into your local ski shop and see what you like. No more boot fitting threads please.
Nov 17 2012 9:02AM
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4man
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Like the little spring that holds the buckle down kinda got unraveled so when the boot isn't done up the buckle doesn't stay down. When you actually tighten it though it works the same. But I will probably buy the same boots when mine wear out. I love mine
Nov 17 2012 9:46AM
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EasySteezy45
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Hey guys update: Went to go see a buddy out of town, stopped into a local shop to check out boots. They wasnt much selection but i asked him to bring out anything that was in my size (I have small feet, size 8) He came out with a pair of Dalbello Krypton cross ID's from last season. I tried them on and he said they looked like a good fit in the shell.....so I bought them. I was a little concerned that he didnt ask about what kind of skiing I was doing or what kind of flex I wanted but I knew they were good boots, I had looked at this years kryptons thinking there is no way I will ever get them they are like 700 bucks. Well the guy knocked off 200 bucks from the original 600 dollar price tag and said they would fit them for free. I figured thats as good a deal as any. Any ways...I am wearing them right now and they feel pretty sexy aside from a few spots (had them heated) just gonna let them pack out a bit.

Anyone have experience with these boots?
Nov 18 2012 3:17AM
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EasySteezy45
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hmmm doing some interneting and it seems the salesman was mistaken it appears what I have is actually 2010-2011 not 2011-2012, no matter...
Nov 18 2012 3:32AM
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t.dough
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This doesn't deserve a thread so I'm going to ask it here. I'm looking to buy last years salomon spk 90s (would this be relatively good for all mountain?). I got fitted for this years 100s yesterday because I assume the sizes are very similar. The best fit was a 27.5. However, I felt quite a bit of pressure on the top of my foot directly above my arch and my toes were a teeny bit jammed at the end of the boots. I don't want to do anymore bootfitting because they tried to charge me $10 a minute (fuck that) but I'd be willing to pay to have the boots heat molded. Opinions?
Nov 18 2012 10:36AM
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SoAnG
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I have Krypton Pros.  They are superior to my other pair(FT).  Let the liners pack a little and identify the trouble spots.  Remedy trouble spots by getting foot beds, punching out pressure points etc... You will now have pillows for ski boots.  Enjoy the season. Done
Nov 18 2012 12:53PM
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tomPietrowski
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Find a different shop. If they are trying to charge you to fit a boot your buying that is not right. However if you were never going to buy the boots from them, they can charge you that.

Overall it sounds like the SPK may be too low in the instep for you. Its a pretty low boot. As for your toes a footbed will help that but it will usually raise your instep so make that worse.

Maybe try the Overlord, similar fit to the spk but higher in the instep.

But overall try to find a better boot fitting shop and make it clear you want to buy boots and footbeds from them from the outset.
Nov 18 2012 6:34PM
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TheClap.
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https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/311248/
Nov 18 2012 6:38PM
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