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The story behind iconic V-day photo.. whoa

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Puns
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http://cratesandribbons.com/2012/09/30/the-kissing-sailor-or-the-selective-blindness-of-rape-culture-vj-day-times-square/
Oct 4 2012 10:25PM
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klayer_9
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link looks to sketch to click.
Oct 4 2012 10:26PM
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deleted5
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lol girls says she was kissed therefor she was raped. also Most of us are familiar with this picture. Captured in Times Square on V-J Day, 1945, it has become one of the most iconic photographs of American history, symbolizing the jubilation and exuberance felt throughout the country at the end of World War II. lol wut ive never seen that pic before.
Oct 4 2012 10:28PM
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oil.
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...rape? really?
Oct 4 2012 10:29PM
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LiquorLanch
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that felt like a kooky website....who the hell cares the biggest war in recent history had just ended its not anyone s fault that the man knew his chances of death became slim to none
Oct 4 2012 10:30PM
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SeanTom
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Seriously? Huh.
Oct 4 2012 10:32PM
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pomme-de-terre
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yes kids, this is a prime example of what i like to call "the makeout rape" best performed on a dance floor, crowded bar, or poorly-lit house party. you dont ask. you dont tell. you just grab her and go for it. bonus points if you just recovered from puking, still have a shot of liquor in your mouth or leave her with your gum.


that shit is my fucking trademark move. after i get blackout you can follow me through the night by tracing the ever-increasing line of pissed-off white girls that taste like my comit.
Oct 4 2012 10:37PM
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brosephstalin
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it's kinda fucked up if you think about it. if some self-rightous fucking prick came up and assaulted me in broad daylight i'd beat the shit out of them.
Oct 4 2012 10:47PM
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lgski
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bull fucking shit. she's grabbing his tie. you don't get "raped" and just go for the tie grab
Oct 4 2012 10:47PM
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yuck
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that website is all about gender equality... they probably have to try to spin everything off as men committing sexual assault because they would run out of interesting stories like this one pretty fast.
Oct 4 2012 10:55PM
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Dragonite.
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This
Oct 4 2012 11:12PM
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irony
Oct 4 2012 11:13PM
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Literature
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Could we look at the most obvious and important fact of all?

HE WAS DRUNK.

People, as a rule, do dumb shit when they're drunk. Add the high that just coming home from winning the war will give you, and I'd say about the sanest thing that any drunk dude might do is make out with a girl in the street.

Consent is important. Peoples' bodies should be respected. But before anyone hauls off about rape culture from an incidence of non-consensual kissing, we need to remember that alcohol was involved.
Oct 4 2012 11:20PM
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Spinoza
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this says a lot about the difference in culture from then til now.
oversensitivity is fucking lame, get over it.
Oct 4 2012 11:20PM
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brosephstalin
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so rape is okay if alcohol is involved?
Oct 4 2012 11:22PM
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Spinoza
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and the expression 'rape culture' can suck my dick
Oct 4 2012 11:25PM
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DsMoK3
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rape is always ok
Oct 4 2012 11:26PM
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GEORGEzimmerman
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sso sober rape isnt okay but rape with alcohol is. got it

but this is bullshit she is grabbing his tie she is totally digging it.
Oct 4 2012 11:27PM
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brosephstalin
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you're probably the type who thinks it's a shame that we gave women and minorities the right to vote
Oct 4 2012 11:34PM
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Spinoza
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no im not. now what?
Oct 4 2012 11:37PM
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edai
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Wow what a fucking slut
Oct 4 2012 11:46PM
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Aidan-G
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How?
Oct 5 2012 12:21AM
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baethoven
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give me a fucking break
Oct 5 2012 12:26AM
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fujarome
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that is one of the worst websites i've ever seen linked on ns.


Also based on their definition, it looks as if every single high school dance, night club, and most bars are pretty much just rape dungeons.
Oct 5 2012 12:26AM
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gotti
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ummm its a kiss. worst that could happen is she gets mono. Best that could happen is she becomes famous because someone decided to take a photo and make her the cover photo of a war victory.
Oct 5 2012 12:33AM
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Literature
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You might notice that I said "Consent is important. Peoples' bodies should be respected."

Nowhere did I say that rape is ok in any circumstance. You're making the same stupid logical jump as the article--that sexual assault is rape, that kissing and forced penetration are the same things. There are shades of grey here, and they deserve to be given honest scrutiny, not quick, shrill condemnation.

People are still culpable for their actions when they're drunk. No question there. I'm merely stating that it seems more likely that a drunk dude would randomly kiss a lady on the street than one who wasn't tanked.
Oct 5 2012 12:46AM
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Literature
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Rape is never ok in any circumstance. I tried to indicate that when I said "Consent is important. Peoples' bodies should be respected."

Thanks for taking the same black and white view of my comment that the article takes of the situation.


Oct 5 2012 12:52AM
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k-rob
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this.

the term "rape culture" is so fucking retarded, i am so sick of seeing it everywhere. it ought to refer to catholic priests.
Oct 5 2012 1:11AM
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GEORGEzimmerman
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you still indicated that it was okay since he was drunk
Oct 5 2012 1:15AM
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dreadyboy
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It really seems like she could be doing a lot more to stop him, her right knee's bent like she's relaxed, she's grabbing his tie and her left arm is just chillin there. Sure she might not have known the guy and been a little surprised, but it doesn't look like she cares that much
Oct 5 2012 1:28AM
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Jane6
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you're (as in not only you, dreadyboy, but the rest of the thread) doing the exact same thing as what was the reason of the blog post:
The Selective Blindness of Rape Culture.

Shes totally into it because she grabs his tie and looks relaxed?
Maybe one half of a second after this is taken she pushes him away? Or maybe she just grabbed his tie because that was the only thing available to grab(I personally would have grabbed his schlong, not for fun times but for get-the-fuck-out-of-my-mouth-douchebag-or-I'll-throw-your-peen-to-the-meth-addicts-across-the-street-times)?

After that the woman in question herself has said that the kissing wasnt mutual its terrible to downplay it as "something that anyone would do if they were drunk" or "come on give the guy I break he just won a war".

Oct 5 2012 2:21AM
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Jeebus.
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Rabble Rabble Rabble
Oct 5 2012 2:28AM
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Jane6
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Oct 5 2012 2:34AM
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Jeebus.
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haha touche
Oct 5 2012 2:36AM
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sniper_6
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and what is this "World War" they're referring to????
Oct 5 2012 3:20AM
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Bill.Nye
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Wil I'm gonna do this to you, do I have your consent?
Oct 5 2012 3:28AM
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Jane6
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only if you buy me breakfast.
Oct 5 2012 3:33AM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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ha, or it could be that she's grabbing his tie and her knee is bent because this big mother fucker, notice he's considerably larger than she is, is bowling her over.
Oct 5 2012 3:35AM
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Boooshank
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Not jumping to conclusions or stating any facts to bring the hate, but...

She doesn't look consensual at all. Look at his left hand? Fist out, kinda pinning her head?? Using his forearm. Not feeling her head at all??
If I were to kiss a chick I hadn't seen in a while and my hands up there, its certainly with my palm inwards. If your laying a chick back to kiss her, surely your hand would be would be open holding her weight??

Her chin, look how she seems to be pouting back making a kinda double chin. She could be fat and that is just adding to my suspicion. It certainly doesn't look like she's very comfortable with it.

I think the smiles around the picture make us instantly judge its a happy pic maybe? Someone photoshop out the backing to see if we think the same.


Oct 5 2012 6:28AM
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Puns
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I think we can safely say it was not consensual by the way the woman said it was not consensual..

anyways good talk everyone, discussion is important
Oct 5 2012 7:58AM
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corona
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she's not grabbing a tie. he's not wearing a tie. just that black bow thing. certainly nothing around his neck that's the colour of what's in her hand. This leads me to believe she was carrying something and her right hand went up between them to try and push him off.
Oct 5 2012 8:00AM
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.AR6rider.
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Who gives a flying fuck? Why make a big deal about this now?
Oct 5 2012 8:09AM
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theBearJew
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How old are you? You really have never seen this picture before?

And I think I already knew that he just grabbed a random woman and started kissing her. Who cares, its a fucking kiss.
Oct 5 2012 9:31AM
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I.B
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This isn't even the worst picture.

You see this picture of tom wallisch?

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well what you can't see, are the insane amount of girls butts,he has peed in.
Oct 5 2012 10:35AM
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shuckle
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