just started watching this. im a big fan of aaron sorkin's writing (a few good men, the social network) and im loving this show. plus, olivia munn is in it and the show is on hbo, which can only mean tits.
ive been watching it, mostly because i loved the west wing, but im not into this as much. the thing that really bothers me is that the characters are always talking so so fast, never pause to think, and always come out with just the right thing to say. i get that its supposed to reflect how fast pace the industry is and how they are always in a hurry, but i find it difficult to keep up with what they are saying. that being said, i think the behind the scenes look at a newsroom is pretty cool, and the secretary chick is real hot.
Potential to be sorkins best work yet. West wing without commercial breaks and censors. Too bad I don't think the cast is as good. Josh Sam Toby Martin are probably my favorite cast ever for their ability to do humor/drama. Jeff Daniels is good but I don't know if he's Martin sheen. I do like the law and order guy in the "Leo McGary" role. It's like Leo if he could drink. Rip btw john spencer.. Great actor.
I watch HBO almost exclusively for my tv entertainment because I think they produce the best tv around. My favorites include bored to death, how to make it in America, game of thrones, curb your enthusiasm, the wire, boardwalk empire etc.
I cant't watch this new sorkin joint without rolling my eyes every five minutes. My first issue stems with the self serving hindsight sorkin priviledges himself with. Setting the plot two years in the past means that he can write about the biggest news stories (gulf oil spill, gabby giffords shooting etc) and have his characters always be right. Like the most recent episode where they don't report giffords is dead even tho all other news channels report her death. It's almost exactly like the south park character captain hindsight where everyone just wants to say thanks asshole, we know.
As for the dialogue, yes it's fast to represent the fast paced nature of the industry, but it's a little much. For those who say "don't watch it high and you'll understand" ..so not true. Sorkin's characters are unbelievably sharp and witty and they always say the right thing. That's very far removed from real life, even in the news business.
Also the storylines make me gag. There's the pathetically set up love triangle between the two guy producers and that desk jockey blonde girl. And then there is Mackenzie the Brit, who is supposed to be this hardass producer who can control her shit, but then she accidentally sends out company wide emails about her love life with Will in just the second episode...really? misogyny Is rampant in the writing and as a result the dialogue is pompous and entitled, much like sorkin himself.
I love HBO, but this show is garbage. Everything from the dialogue, to the situations, to the god awful west wing-esque music to convey the perceived "importance" of the characters is just terrible. Sorkin is trying to hard and it shows in his work. The show already got a second season but hopefully the large amount of criticism will tone down the bullshit for season 2.
Also please ignore grammatical flaws in the above paragraphs, NS on mobile isnt the easiest
^ My iphone never lets me indent for some reason either. Its running like a westwing round 2 with swearing. I hope he can differentiate it a bit more than making the main character a rep. even though he like.. isn't.. hah and I admit that live triangle is a joke. I don't like watching her at all. Somehting about her face bothers like she just saw a ghost all the time.
Well that's the thing, Sorkin's style may have proved great for something like The Social Network, but it fucking sucks in this case.
The Newsroom blows. If it was on NBC with a few more song montages after 40 minutes and a severe lack of swearing, it would fit right in. But this is HBO, same fucking company that brought Oz, The Sopranos, The Wire, Deadwood, Boardwalk Empire, Six Feet Under, True Blood, Rome, Band of Brothers, Game of Thrones, and much more... to the screen. This shit just doesn't rate.
I'll just repeat what has been said already: nothing about it feels real, the characters are horrendous (save Jeff Daniels... mostly) and the hindsight bash-me-over-the-head--repeatedly-with-your-opinion-Sorkin approach is cheap and shitty.
what opinions are you being bashed over the head with? his first rant was a bunch of statistics, the oil spill sucked, the tea party makes takes away credibility from republicans, giffords didnt die, news outlets misport or blatantly lie on occasion. those arent really opnions
It's taken a little while for the show to hit a groove. Last night's episode was better. It's sorkin's writing, of course there's going to be lots of witty banter and long dialog. Already picked up for a second season.
Eh, it makes sense. It had great ratings for a premium cable premiere and, obvious by this point, there are a ton of people stuck on Sorkin's dick willing to tolerate supreme mediocrity simply because he wrote it and it's his "style." Fuck that
^ or because not everyone has the same taste as you. So far people's main argument has been they can't keep up with the dialogue. Really? I'm assuming you hated west wing too which was very similar. It went for seven seasons so someone obviously enjoyed it. It's nice to see hbo diversifying their programming even though their shows are about vampires, medieval stuff etc they all seem very similar in how theyre shot/written. I imagine this appeals to a crowd not looking for r rated programming I guess.
also how are people complaining about 'hindsight'? its a scripted tv show, not a live broadcast, there are two choices; deal with real events of the past or create fictional events in a fictional world. I might not be wording everything like a wannabe tv critic but at least my shit makes sense
The whole show relies on hindsight. The only reason we as an audience respect Will (Jeff Daniels - the anchorman) is because he's always right about the issues. He's the first to report on the gulf oil spill and he bashes the tea party crazies before its cool. These aren't things sorkin can predict or make up because he's not creative, he has to create characters who function after the fact so they can always be right. It's the most insecure television I've ever seen. Sorkin isn't a risk taker anymore. West wing was a fantastic show with compelling storylines, whereas the newsroom is just a paycheck... Its pathetic
I think 3 episodes in may be a little soon to tell. They've essentially just spent the entirety setting up the story line. West Wing took me a minute to get into, it's very dry in the beginning. I like that he's using real events it makes it interesting. I thought real things and names were the only thing the west wing lacked.