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First of all I would look at the 189 Hellbent, the copius amounts rocker will make them ski alot shorter. The Hellbents are a pure pow ski where as the Obsethed are much more of a daily driver ski. Other skis you might want to look are the Opus,Petitor (which fills the space left be the abscence of the Obsethed next year),Rocker2 122,Caylor. Check the blog quoted in my sig for reviews of next year's rocker2 122 and the ON3P Caylor.