not to start anything. i play gridiron football myself (which is not too easy in europe) and grew up playing soccer obviously.
i remember a few instances in the nfl, most recently in the steelers/broncos game this year, there was actually a "flop" on a punt return to get the other team for block in the back and/or massive "crying" towards the refs to call it.
its not as widespread, but you are obviously allowed to do more in football, so a lot of things do not warrant faking injury/diving because they are perfectly legal. its kinda hard to fake a facemask, tripping or whatever.
if you really think everything is so black and white, then please shoot yourself. i seriously think that every sport is equal, just "tough" in another way. take billard vs road cycling. or soccer vs am. football. its horseshit to "compare" them.
if youre so obsessed with "your" sport, fine. but dont act like all others are faggots. i like to do a lot of things and from my experience, every sport is fun as hell to do yourself.
^^^^this is bad obviously. but you also have to understand the rules of the game.
lets say i am 1-1 with the last defender and pass him easily while entering the box but he fouls me from behind, but not enough to make me fall, just makes me stumble a bit. i am now entering badass mode and keep running but totally fuck up my next touch and the ball gets too far away from me and the keeper picks it up easily.
not a foul. no red card. no penalty.
but if i disable badass mode and fall by the contact from behind, i get all that. and its not even a dive. i have to declare that i was fouled.
and apparently with most refs you cannot declare it any better by screaming a bit and fall to the ground. its fucked, yes. but trust me, it doesnt work if you just take the hit and ask the ref if he could blow the whistle.
on the other hand. all the "famous" divers, like recently ronaldo, ribery or whoever, are good technicians and cannot be stopped oftentimes by fair means. they get hit all the time and "diving" (in my above definition) protects them.
and while there are horribly bad dives, a lot of times there is (minor) contact which is technically a foul in A LOT of cases.
and just to come back. i play gridiron football for one of the best european teams and its not like i am a tough guy all of a sudden.
Flops may be to get the call they deserve, but what bothers me is all the time they spend faking a light tap. Sure, fall, get the call, and get right back up. What's pathetic is that they stay down WAY longer than necessary simply to waste clock in an attempt to hold their lead and win. Remember in the world cup when that player faked the injury, took up time by having a stretcher come on the field to carry him off, get to the sideline, hop off and run right back in? Yes, he got yellow carder for it, but this is the world's biggest stage and stuff like that is happening on a regulare basis.
And to an above comment, calm down man. I never said soccer was for f***ts.
I am just pointing out that there are about 100 times more pussies playing this sport than any other.
If you get hit from behind and keep going then fuck up 2 seconds after that, that sucks for you man to bad you arent that badass.... OR you could turn off badass mode and turn on hey im gonna be a pussy foot fairy mode.
I play skiing.
I play hockey. (there is diving BUT NOT LIKE SOCCER)
I played football (american) where we dont have to dive we just hit people really fucking hard. no dancing around and tripping.
I play with my balls.
I play golf.
I play race cars.
I play with your moms coot.
I play polo.
I play cliff jumping.
I play skydiving.
I play lots of stuff that dont involve being pussed out.
I do like soccer and have respect for the great players, just lots of pussy involved. thats all im sayin. I dont care if its how you show the ref there was a penalty or not. In most sports when you have to tell or show the ref there was a penalty you are called a whiner.
Depends on the situation. Usually a runback has no problem hitting people since well they run the fucking football for a living, I dont know if you have ever watch american football but usually the running back spends most of the game running straight into people twice their size. So I would have to go with intelligent for the running back.
Now for a QB you kind of have me stuck. I kind of want to say they can be pussies but then I think about it for a second. 250lb all muscle human torpedo linebacker running full speed at you ready to kill you, ya you save your brain and body and toss the ball away. This also could save you from a fumble and turning the ball over. Not really a pussy move. No one open, throw the ball out of bounds to stop the clock and not throw it into coverage possibly turning the ball over.
Soccer... 130lb player being chased from behind by another 130lb player. Player from behind breathes on the player in front and they fall over. Pussy or Intelligent?