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Hardcore Appreciation

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Nurgle
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Probally going to receive more hate, than positive responses, but heres a thread dedicated to Hardcore.














May 5 2012 5:14AM
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Nurgle
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haha TUI is super fun live, Ive seen them around 6 times now. But you've got to love Terror shows, and Scott Vogels Sayings


I wanna see all you motherfuckers come up to the front and sing along. this ones called �Keep Your Distance.�


I wanna see some stage dives... Stage dive off this monitor, off the drum monitor, off this kids face, off that light, more stage dives!
- Scott Vogel
http://www.vogelisms.com/
(just hit refresh)

STAGEDIVES STAGEDIVES STAGEDIVES!
May 9 2012 10:56PM
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Chett
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1hhsJfFntg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4N3Kd2JgvI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klgGo1oCAO4
May 9 2012 11:32PM
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_DUSTY_
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Closest thing to hardcore I've ever listened to is bury your dead, I don't really see any difference between hardcore and metalcore.


May 10 2012 3:14AM
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papermache
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Damn, some really solid content in this thread i was not expecting that! I feel like i need to comment on all of this. Polar Bear Club is one of my favorite bands ever (with an exception of their newest album), strike anywhere is pure gold. watch me rise by have hear is definitely one of my favorite songs ever. LOVE TUI ive been binging on them constantly of late.

Also, OP i noticed you posted xibalba, you listen to incendiary? they put out a split together both those bands are really sick.

Heres my contribution:

May 10 2012 3:40AM
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7-3instacall
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJiWl1D0bQI
heres my friends band

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6qtK3JgqVI
ere again without box

sorry too fucking retarded to embed
May 10 2012 3:46AM
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Nurgle
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Yeah, they are sick, and pretty good live as well. Listen to any old hardcore, such as Blood for Blood, Cro-Mags, or Warzone?
May 10 2012 4:44AM
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Jane6
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haha seeing a Czech band tonight, hopefully it will be a good show, they're playing together with a band from my town

http://talesoferror.bandcamp.com/ - czech

http://highhopeshc.bandcamp.com/ - stockholm
May 10 2012 5:59AM
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Heart
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this thread did NOT DELIVER!! where is teh pronz!?
May 10 2012 7:55AM
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neutralzombie
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why is this not here?



but seriously. it made me think of this video, when i saw this one, and i shook my head.(i thought it was awful)


i think im also confused between hardcore and metalcore. but primarlily i think hardcore belongs more to the punk world than the metal world. i find it a blurry line. i just dont know why, i dont get music categories anymore these days.


but this will never get old

i guess i can see the difference between genres

May 10 2012 12:02PM
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SamwiseTheGamgee
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vocals aside, the metal core music is IMO considerably better than hardcore. The hardcore guitar and drums just doesn't really have enough substance for it to be enjoyable, hence why I got passed the screaming of metal core because the quality of music was higher. I also don't know what you listen to that is generally just pig screams, because plenty of the metal core that I listen to I can understand what they're saying
May 10 2012 12:04PM
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SamwiseTheGamgee
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vocals aside, the metal core music is IMO considerably better than hardcore. The hardcore guitar and drums just doesn't really have enough substance for it to be enjoyable, hence why I got passed the screaming of metal core because the quality of music was higher. I also don't know what you listen to that is generally just pig screams, because plenty of the metal core that I listen to I can understand what they're saying
May 10 2012 12:04PM
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Balto
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hardcore edm?
May 10 2012 12:07PM
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Shark.
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god please no.










and something not as hard, but still really been digging lately
May 10 2012 2:17PM
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jayo.
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You're an idiot. Skinheads are a small subculture that are not accepted by the overwhelming majority of punks/hardcore kids
May 10 2012 2:17PM
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neutralzombie
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i really like emarosa, but i wouldnt have considered them hardcore
May 10 2012 3:34PM
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Shark.
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This Way Out was their more hardcore album I think, but ya definitely not nearly as gnar as some of the bands posted
May 10 2012 3:37PM
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steezbox
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As long as the hardcore dancers stay away from my death metal/ deathcore/ prog / djent (I hate using that term) shows then I will not complain. I seriously cannot stand that shit.

And +1 on the Whitechapel and BTBAM. I however hope that you did not label BTBAM as a "core" band. They are one of the most progressive and technical metal bands out right now.
May 10 2012 3:44PM
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Nurgle
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You're an idiot, the vast majority of early hardcore are skinheads, and this includes punks.

However, I believe your referring to the Nazi/Racist (bone)skinheads... In which I then agree. Please refer to them as Nazis/neonazis/boneheads.
May 10 2012 11:05PM
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steezbox
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Oh man. Not BMTH. I will not really hate on bands that much, but these guys are just bad. Every scene kid listens to them - its not even about the music (and that is almost a good thing). Even their first album, which was almost deathcore, was barely tolerable.
May 10 2012 11:25PM
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Nurgle
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I love My First Hardcore Song.

Also, no BMTH please. There are major differences between Hardcore and Shitcore.

BMTHs first album wasnt half bad, I really enjoyed For Stevie Wonders Eyes Only, but lately, this whole fake brokenhearted/emotional shit they have been doing is a definite No Go. Along with Oli fucking his vocals up a year or 2 ago, they just blow, esp live. Along with Chelsea Grin.
May 10 2012 11:35PM
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steezbox
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Chelsea Grin isn't hardcore though. I don't like being a genre nazi, but Deathcore and hardcore are VERY different.

Deathcore = Whitechapel, All Shall Perish, Winds of Plague, The Red Chord, Suicide Silence, etc.
This genre is essentially mixing the breakdowns and feel of hardcore with the vocals and (sometimes) speed of Death metal.

Hardcore = well to be honest I don't really know much about hardcore bands, but I do know the style. Hatebreed i guess? I like them.
May 10 2012 11:38PM
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Skiingsnow
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i think metal and country are the only 2 genres that i really cant stand listening too... and i have a really wide taste in music
May 10 2012 11:47PM
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walrussteeze
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prefer metalcore and deathcore but me gusta this thread
May 10 2012 11:53PM
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Nurgle
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Oh I know that Chelsea Grin isnt Hardcore whatsoever, simply using them as a example of another metalcore/experimental artist that totally shredded their vocals, and screwed it up

You essentially got the definition of Deathcore, having more screaming usually, combined with technical playing.

Because you also have Genres like Power Violence, which plays extremley fast, along with Punk, but are not Deathcore.

Example: Nails.


You've also have Hardcore Punk, which is essentially the same as Hardcore, but kept more of that Punk influence



With Hardcore, wikipedia defines it as- Hardcore is generally faster, thicker, and heavier than earlier punk rock. 1. (Music, other) a style of rock music characterized by short fast numbers with minimal melody and aggressive delivery.

When it comes to genres when comparing things such as death/metal/djent I'm a total Nazi... Hatebreed is essentially hardcore

But anyways, heres some more music.







RIP Ray..


Some Hardstyle Hardcore.



Last, and not least, gotta have some StraightEdge Hardcore from one of the hardest labels out there.









May 11 2012 12:02AM
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Nurgle
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I can see what you mean there, but I dont really care about the technicality of the guitar playing, especially since I do not play any sort of instrument. Just something about the scene, and the brotherhood drew me in from the start, and I never turned away.

I didnt mean that all bands do pig squeals, and whatnot, just that after I grew up a bit more, and developed different taste, I began to move away from the more screamo/metalcore genre. Just not a huge fan of the vocals, and fashion before passion shit.

I still goto some metalcore shows, and enjoy them, just not my main thing you know?

I mean shit, I love Emotional Hardcore, Shoeglaze, Depressive Post Black-Metal, and etc, just got over the mainstream metalcore that is around nowadays.
May 11 2012 12:08AM
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PON3
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Comeback Kid has to be my most favorite band ever and put on the best live show I have seen!!!!!

May 11 2012 12:08AM
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Nurgle
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I cant even begin to describe my love for this band, and ESPECIALLY that song. Ive seen them 8 times, and at one point drove 6 hours for their show, even though I had work in the morning. Red Bull saved me.
May 11 2012 12:10AM
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PON3
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They are my band that I know every thing about. I know how every song goes, and I can play the drums to 90% of their stuff. When I went to their show I was lucky enough to get the set list and the drumstick from the drummer. Best fucking night of my life.

I seriously believe that Comeback Kid is the backbone to what modern hardcore is today. They are the most purest form.
May 11 2012 12:32AM
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steezbox
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Right. I wouldn't say deathcore necessarily has more technical playing though - there are enough bands that just play standard drop tuned power chords with a bunch of breakdowns (*ahem* Emmure). Also deathcore tends to have a lot of low growls rather than screams (hence the "death" part).

These are really just useless details though. I usually do not like to analyze bands this much just to label them as something.

Some decent songs there by the way. Not exactly my cup of tea though.
May 11 2012 12:59AM
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steezbox
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Oh dub post. Anyboady who likes prog, crazy time signatures, dissonance, and ridiculous tempo changes needs to listen to some Dillinger Escape Plan:





And their insane live shows:



They are on my list of bands to see live sometime in my life. It would be INSANE.

And Misery Signals are worth checking out too. I won't spam with vids though.


May 11 2012 1:06AM
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cliffdiverNZ
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I'm liking this thread so far. Saw ABR last month two nights in a row with my buddy in Auckland then near where I live in Wellington with a 9 hour drive each way and sleeping in the car. One of my best weekends ever. We don't get many major gigs over here in New Zealand so any chance that we get we have to go for it no matter how far away the gig is. Here's some contributions from me.
I heard these guys just got back together.
These guys are just a bunch of surfers from ozzy. They have a documentary video which is well worth watching.
I've played these guys almost every day since I found them half a year ago and I'm not getting bored yet.


Annoying that this version is censored, but oh well.
May 11 2012 3:38AM
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Nurgle
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Defeater is fantastic, I loved them live. If your really into them, you'd probally like a band called Apart.
http://apartsc.bandcamp.com/

also, check out Dopamine - chinese Depressive Shoeglaze

And if your feeling adventerous, this band blew me away
http://wearevestiges.bandcamp.com/album/the-descent-of-man
Esp this song- http://wearevestiges.bandcamp.com/track/iv

And yes, Verse is back, and it makes me so happy.
May 11 2012 4:36AM
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Mr.LemonPie
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I thought this thread was going to be about porn...
May 11 2012 5:43AM
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neutralzombie
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didnt like bmth first album much.


on another note, im going to see refused in july. :D daw nostalgias

May 11 2012 1:26PM
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vandersteeze
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At first I thought you were talking about this hardcore

May 11 2012 3:40PM
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Jane6
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maaaaan, mad jealous!
they did 2 secret shows here in sweden before they took off to the US, I missed both of them because I was busy doing other stuff.. when I think about it, how can anything ever be more important than Refused?



May 13 2012 2:34PM
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Spinoza
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At first I thought you were talking about hardcore porn
May 13 2012 2:36PM
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neutralzombie
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May 13 2012 7:01PM
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uosdwiSrjewoH
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classic



fun



most important, but can't embed, post hardcore, lifestory:monologue = the best of anything

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http://youtu.be/7ntnZVvRDXM

http://youtu.be/1ZbHuiKJ1WQ

http://youtu.be/UQKS2SFI_YE
May 13 2012 7:16PM
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PON3
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no, just no.
May 13 2012 11:25PM
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sir_drums_a_lot
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not a fan of metalcore, but i'm totally down with extreme and death metal
May 13 2012 11:29PM
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Travapple.
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i thought this thread was about porn, i am dissapoint
May 13 2012 11:31PM
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Jane6
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if you like touché amoré you might like my friends


Nov 18 2012 2:27PM
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Jane6
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seeing Touché Amoré and Converge tonight, mad stoke!
Dec 7 2012 7:47AM
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steezbox
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^ i just found out about Converge a few weeks ago, and i am loving them. Their new album is awesome. I actually came here to post about them, but i figure I won't clutter this thread with more embedded videos.
Dec 7 2012 9:15AM
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