they where my 1st pair of twintips and their still in great condition.. It wasn't till my 2nd pair till I really started beating the shit outta them. I switched the bindings (look P12s) over to my 2nd pair and They just got stored away in my closet. I think it be dope to throw a set of Markers on an wax'em up. I would be surprised if some of the older park rats noticed them. What do you guys think???