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SIA Coverage Segments

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skiRay
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just wanted to say that i like how the SIA coverage is this year so far, i remember the last few years it was divided into days and could get confusing. This segment format on the homepage is a lot better! thanks

Jan 26 2012 4:51PM
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Leeyum
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i miss the older way personally seems like i miss half the freeskiing news lately because important stories get shuffled to the back by a blog update on skiers that aren't really professional or something. It's cool that so many people can get coverage now but at the same time I miss the homepage stories every other day (how it used to be).
Jan 26 2012 11:51PM
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.RYAN66
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i agree, i really liked how it was done last year.

i mean normally i would be freaking out since i havent seen armada yet, but i am trying to keep that a surprise for tomorrow
Jan 27 2012 7:38PM
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alev
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I will not be looking at 75% or more of the gear from SIA this year simply because how it is laid out. I also imagine that quite a few other nsers will act the same, and a lot of the gear that we would normally look at will go unnoticed
Jan 27 2012 8:19PM
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kstanz
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This. I don't like the new way, so much easier to have it all in one big post or per days posts. This way i have to click click click around and frankly im too lazy for that. sucks.
Jan 29 2012 12:07AM
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MacMahoooon
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For anyone who really just wants to see a ton of pictures we also have a running gallery where we'll be collecting all of the images as they are posted in articles

https://www.newschoolers.com/nspg/282.0/SIA-Gear-2012

We know there are some people who are less than stoked about this format. This new setup has an end goal here of being more than just a splash of pictures. We wanted to take some time, give a better rundown of a companies line, and include some information of whats new and changed. Everyone goes to these, takes one or 2 pictures of an entire wall of skis where you only get to see top sheets. We talked to the reps, found out what cool new stuff they wanted to highlight, like shape/rocker or a new tech and focused more. We want this to be a reference for you guys again later in the season when you start making decisions of what to get next year.

We try to give you both the widest coverage while at the same time making it comprehensive. We hope to keep everyone happy, and always open to suggestion
Jan 30 2012 1:35PM
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.RYAN66
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maybes its just me, but i didnt see any info in the posts about companies?

just an idea here:

still do an upload in days with a good amount of pictures, but have all of this info on the products compiled into the days post, it would take some work but i am sure you could get someone to do it.
Jan 30 2012 1:41PM
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blindside
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Please direct my attention towards said information in any of these updates..


I could go on..
Jan 31 2012 12:49PM
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Drail
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I was wondering if someone had started a thread for this. The individual "articles" are seriously cluttering the news feed. This is saying a lot considering how watered down the news feed has been already due to the changes that have been going on. Combine that with the very poor coverage, you guys might as well not even bother. Marker's coverage was horrible at best.

Feb 1 2012 11:41PM
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rudager
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Not that it's the biggest help. But for those who wanted videos

https://www.newschoolers.com/membervideos/160363.0/SIACoverage

Kinda wish the videos were included in the news coverage though.
Feb 2 2012 12:32AM
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Mike-O
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I for one liked the Day format, this just seems like a lot of impersonal clutter. Some of the brands are even only a few pictures or items and they are counted as one News item, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

If this was done as a completely separate "forum" or article section, then it could work more properly.
Feb 2 2012 12:11PM
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schmuck
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As opposed to complaining about the coverage, how about giving some props to our SIA content team who slaved away at the show for four days straight, went to over 60 booths, took thousands of photos every day that they had to go through, shot a ton of video every day that they had to edit, and barely slept, all to hook you guys up with a look at next year's gear to get you stoked.

We made the call to try something new this year by mixing up our coverage via separating the articles into brands, and I think that our team did an amazing job, and would really appreciate it if a little more respect was shown to Chris McMahon, David Peacock and Max Santeusaino for all of their hard work, because I know more so than anyone how monumental of a task it is to cover that show.

I realize that it's taken a bit longer to roll everything out this year (due to our new plan of attack, and mainly because we wanted to offer a little more technical info on the hard goods side of things than we have in years past, because you guys complained last year and the year before that we didn't...so we listened to you), which I'm sure is the main reason some of you are unhappy with it, because you want to see everything all at once and as fast as possible. I can appreciate that, because I wasn't at the show myself and am itching to see all of the new gear as well, but before ranting and complaining about our coverage, take a step back and consider how god damn hard our guys worked over the weekend and how little they slept, all to make you stoked...and show some love.




Feb 2 2012 2:38PM
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Mike-O
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Opinions in Site Discussion are not at all detrimental to the time or effort that has gone to cover these things, they are just opinions.

I know there's passion and dedication at work here, but no one is hating on what's been done, some just stating that maybe it was not the best possible choice. You know the best as you have access to the data, how many comments, ratings and unique views compared to your previous Day style coverage, it would be good to hear and see how it compared.

Feb 2 2012 2:50PM
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schmuck
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We've received more views on this year's coverage in the last week than we have on last year's in the last year.





Feb 2 2012 3:16PM
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blindside
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Once again, I have not seen any of the aforementioned 'information' in many of the homepage updates.
Feb 2 2012 3:16PM
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MacMahoooon
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So turned out we had a memory card fail and lost about 2 dozen pictures from oakley and the following booth. We didn't find out till after the show was over, and the article guy had already posted thinking thats all there was.

We are going to try and get some additional pictures to put in there from another photographer if we can.

Sorry about that one
Feb 2 2012 3:19PM
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Mike-O
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Then it's nothing but positive, I guess. It's good to hear hard facts than can overlay opinionated views.
Feb 2 2012 3:22PM
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schmuck
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Ski dimensions, camber profiles, boot flex and DIN range in hardgoods updates...

https://www.newschoolers.com/readnews/4709.0/Salomon-SIA-2012
https://www.newschoolers.com/readnews/4702.0/Atomic-SIA-2012
https://www.newschoolers.com/readnews/4705.0/Icelantic-SIA-2012
https://www.newschoolers.com/readnews/4700.0/Volkl-SIA-2012
https://www.newschoolers.com/readnews/4691.0/Nordica-SIA-2012
https://www.newschoolers.com/readnews/4684.0/Dynastar-Lange-SIA-2012
https://www.newschoolers.com/readnews/4682.0/Rossignol-SIA-2012
https://www.newschoolers.com/readnews/4679.0/Moment-SIA-2012
https://www.newschoolers.com/readnews/4675.0/4FRNT-SIA-2012
https://www.newschoolers.com/readnews/4664.1/Klint-SIA-2012
https://www.newschoolers.com/readnews/4663.1/Liberty-SIA-2012
https://www.newschoolers.com/readnews/4699.0/Full-Tilt-SIA-2012
https://www.newschoolers.com/readnews/4701.0/Marker-SIA-2012

That's a lot of looking through catalogs before posting the updates as opposed to just uploading photos.



Feb 2 2012 3:32PM
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.RYAN66
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i dont think anyone can argue that they put a lot of work into covering the show, and i never realized how hard and tiring it is when you are at the show until i got the oppurtunity to attend the show, but i didnt have 4 days (really 3 and half) to cover all of these booths. I think that a lot more on the journalism side could have gone into this.

this isnt something one person can do, i would suggest having a team of people all taking pictures and information and then emailing them to one person to compose the article at the end of the day. I wouldnt even complain if the info was published the next day but there was a lot of great information about next years gear that could have been put out.

for example, on atomic, there new boot wasnt even covered!!! now i realize it isnt a "freestyle boot" but still it is a HUGE advancement in boot technology.

also at oakley there was no info about the new goggle, ex: 2 lenses? why did oakley differ from the outerrigger? just some questions that could have been asked.

and to macmahoon if you guys need picture from oakley i can email you some i took, i have some of the pro models but not all.

back to coverage, i dont think anyone wants what freeskier does by JUST publishing photos, but i think that people like to just browse over a vast majority of the gear in a timely fashion and this can be achieved by having all of the days info in one post, but i do agree that there can be more information shared.

what I am suggesting is A LOT of work, but i think that next year with SIA being held earlier that perhaps this would allow you, schmuck, to contribute more instead of covering x-games. seeing many of your articles i would guess that you have some sort of journalism experience? but i still dont think it would be wise for you to cover this yourself since there is such an amazing amount of work to do.

these are just suggestions that i think could help make it better, this is what i would personally really like and i would think that others would to as it covers both the people who just want to look at picture, and also the people who want to read content and information about new gear.
Feb 2 2012 6:35PM
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