yall seriously need to quit advertising alpental on this site. it used to be a peaceful powder filled place where the it was easy to find fresh powder and it was never all that busy. this is changing. now the second chair is full of loud obnoxious park rats that think it is ok to aimlessly follow people into the back country and then complain when they figure out they are in over there head. you ruined my favorite mountain newschoolers thanks a lot!