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GBS
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So I've bought the Full Tilt Hotdogger, and they are great, the only bad thing about them is that they are to thin for my foot. I didn't feel this when I tried them on for the first time.
I can only feel it after like 20 mins and more, and it's really painfull.
Two weeks ago I got them widened out (or whatever you call it) 0,5 cm at my local ski shop, and I and the guy working there though it was gonna be enough, but it wasn't.
I've only been skiing like 10 times this winter bacause of this problem, it sucks, and it's getting pretty damn expensive.

So NS, help me, is it possible to "make them wider"  like 1 - 1,5 cm more?
Should I buy new boots?...

Thx ALOT for help :D
Jan 1 2012 6:17PM
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GBS
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And btw, a bootfitter recommended the boots for me, I got them heatmoulded and I got custom footbeds.
When I take the footbeds out, it's not that painfull...
Jan 1 2012 6:23PM
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MRoden
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they'll pack out after half the season.
Jan 1 2012 6:34PM
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GBS
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Like seriously, thats what everybody says... Should I just ignore the pain and have half a season of pain, and then they will pack out?...
It's not the inner liner boot thing, its the shell, the hard plastic. Will that pack out?.
Jan 1 2012 6:41PM
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GBS
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BUMP
Jan 1 2012 6:52PM
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Mag
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surely if he thought 0.5cm would do it you shouldn't need much more, and they should do it for free,
Jan 1 2012 7:25PM
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tomPietrowski
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First thing to cheack I think is the footbed, what type did you get? It sounds like the footbed is still alowing your foot to pronate inside the boot. Becuase your foot only hurts after about 20 min, it would show that the boot is wide enough, but becuase your foot is pronating, over time, it pronates more and more which makes your foot wider, hence why it feels to tight. If its a superfeet of surefoot footbed that is your problem. If its a sidas have a look what type of stabiliser they used, it may be badly molded or not stiff enough.

Take them back to where you got them, explain your issues and have them look at your footbeds.
Jan 1 2012 7:58PM
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RIP_leos_shack
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I'm sorry the bootfitter recommended full tilts if you have really wide feet. That's about the best I can do for you.
Jan 1 2012 8:17PM
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onenerdykid
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You can only stretch a shell so far, and to get more than 2cm is difficult. It depends on the plastic and wall thickness of the plastic. I don't think you will get that much from a FT....

Plus, liners will pack out not the shell. And packing out the liner won't help if the shell is too narrow for your foot. If the shell is causing problems, you need to address that first.
Jan 2 2012 12:30AM
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Ryno
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take out the liner and stick your foot in the shell, are your feet touching the sides anywhere in ther boot?
Jan 2 2012 11:01AM
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GBS
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Nope... Should it?
Jan 4 2012 2:45PM
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CDdesign
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shoulda gone with the SPK or Overload...

Jan 4 2012 2:51PM
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GBS
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Tried the SPK, didn't fit my foot :/
Jan 4 2012 2:58PM
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CDdesign
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and btw, my salomon ghosts were the same way, 98mm last... when i take the liners out you can see where they packed out.  they dont hurt anymore
Jan 4 2012 2:58PM
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GBS
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^ Ok, thanks =)

About how long did it take you before they packed out, so that you could ski comfy again?
Jan 5 2012 12:20PM
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onenerdykid
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So do that shell test that was mentioned above... Take out the liner again and put your foot in the shell (with ski sock). Slide your foot to the back of the shell and shift the inside portion of your foot so it contacts the inside portion of the shell. How much room do you have along the outside of your foot? You want to have about 1cm (fingertip) along the outside of your foot. If you have less or if your foot contacts the shell, the boot is most likely still too narrow for you. Then it needs to be stretched still since there is no room for a liner.

If you have 1cm of space, then the liner should back out within 10 days of skiing. Past that, your boot-fitter can also compress the foam for you with special tools.
Jan 5 2012 1:01PM
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GBS
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Nope, can't slide my indexfinger between the shell and my foot.
But I think it's about 0.3 cm...
My smallest toe's knockle is barely touching the shells wall, and below that it's pretty tight.

Think I should stretch them more?
Jan 5 2012 1:30PM
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onenerdykid
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Then this means it is not a liner pack out issue- the shell is too close to your foot. Think of it this way: with your foot in the bare shell, how much space is in there without a liner, and how thick is the liner? You need to have enough space for that liner to fit, otherwise it will be really painful.

You can try to pack that liner out all year, but it is not the liner's fault- the shell is still too close to your foot. Take them back to your shop and have them try to stretch the shell a bit more for you.
Jan 5 2012 1:56PM
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GBS
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I dont know if it's necessary, I've been wearing my boots for 4 hours straight now, and I haven't felt anything. Gonna ski in them alot this weekend, see if it's the same.
Kinda weird though, guess the just packed out or something, they are so comfertable (without the footbed, which I lost)....

But thank ALOT for the help, if the pain comes back, I'll definately take em back to the shop and let the bootfitter have a look at them.
Jan 5 2012 4:25PM
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b.utters
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I had the same problem with my boots after having them fitted. You will only notice the problem whilst skiing on them, not while you are sitting around doing nothing.

Jan 5 2012 4:33PM
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GBS
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Yeah, but I wore them before and had the same pain...
Jan 5 2012 6:06PM
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