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Salt on Jumps?

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gusestomp
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I've been watching lots of kids put salt on jumps to harden it. I was wondering what kind of salt to use. Like regular table salt? Rocksalt? Anything? ! I'm pretty confused about it.
Dec 10 2011 12:53PM
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OCM
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bath salts
Dec 10 2011 12:55PM
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Panda_with_Guns
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idealy ice melting salt but i heard table salt sort of works. i use bathsalts though
Dec 10 2011 1:05PM
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howlongcanausern
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Dec 10 2011 1:05PM
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Supergyro
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Syress relief ftw
Dec 10 2011 1:28PM
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Stose
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I'm pretty sure any type of salt works because it reacts with the snow to create a higher melting point so the snow wont melt.
Dec 10 2011 3:05PM
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easy.steezy
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Haha, no.  Salt creates a LOWER melting point.  Salting jumps melts the snow just a little, but because the air temperature is below freezing, it freezes into ice, solidifying the jump.
Dec 10 2011 3:10PM
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theabortionator
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Different things you can used. You can use rock salts, urea pebbles. Even super melt shit you can buy at the gas station works well.



You can turn absolute slush rock hard even in 90 degree temps. Salt is ridiculously useful. Just gotta be careful where you use it though. YOu don't want to turn your park into an ice sheet.
Dec 10 2011 3:13PM
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Stose
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yeah now that you say that, i remember
Dec 10 2011 3:13PM
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theabortionator
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You don't need an air temp below freezing to use salt.


You can firm up your take offs even in the late spring. That's really the most necessary time for using it.
Dec 10 2011 3:14PM
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theabortionator
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Also different nitrates and I believe calcium are used as well. There are a whole bunch of different products out there. Can prolly find the best information through racing sources because they've been using them for a long time.

A lot of stuff in the park came from racing anyway.
Dec 10 2011 3:17PM
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californiagrown
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we have yet to stark hosing down the park though haha.
Dec 10 2011 3:21PM
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saxon
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this, a lot of the time park crews will simply have bags of the stuff, i hear it works faster than salt.
Dec 10 2011 3:24PM
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AviadIL
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you can use plain table salt it works just fine...
and you sure don't need below freeze air temps.. i tried to hit a rail on april 2 years ago not far from where i was stationed (northern israel), 25 celsius, artificial snow, and it held up just fine..
Dec 10 2011 3:31PM
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Parks.
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Dec 10 2011 4:26PM
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chicken
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sidewalk salt works the best but you can use packets of table salt from the cafeteria
Dec 10 2011 4:28PM
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how convenient
Dec 10 2011 4:29PM
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Joonas
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I dont know what kind of table salt you guys have over there in the states, but our table salt works perfectly fine..
And only use salt if the temperatures are ABOVE freezing, so it will harden the snow up. If its under freezing, just use water because the salt will make snow sticky and slushy, kind of strange to ride on..
Dec 10 2011 4:30PM
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theabortionator
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If you're using the tiny salt packets you're in a pretty desperate situation. I mean even if you run out of the shit you use in the park and can't get anything form the race dept, a bag of that super melt shit is like 2 or 3 bucks at most gas stations.

Dec 10 2011 4:32PM
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theabortionator
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Again, no.


If you have a take off onto a rail or something that's soft you can throw some salt on it to firm it up nice. You most def can freeze shit when using salt when the temp is under freezing.

Dec 10 2011 4:37PM
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Joonas
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you can freeze shit yes, but only as long as its not too cold, the salt wont work after its under -5 in C, dunno what that makes in F.

But a fact is that, when its above freezing, salt ALWAYS works
Dec 10 2011 4:46PM
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theabortionator
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I've used it at some low temps. -5 is 23f I've def used salt colder than 23. I'm not sure how cold I've used other chemicals. But I've def gotten shit to help things firm up when it was cold.


Dec 10 2011 4:56PM
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chicken
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yeah but if you need to you can spend lunch pouring salt into a cup and it will still freeze your jump up good.
Dec 10 2011 4:59PM
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theabortionator
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Why would i spend my lunch pouring salt in a cup from little packets when I can go get some food, warm up a little and take a breather?

My friend had a buddy that would sit and do the individual ketchup things form fast food joints into a ketchup bottle. Too much effort for me. I mean I'm frugal but damn, that's too far
Dec 10 2011 5:05PM
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qualay
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doesn't salt lower water's freezing point? Hence why it is put on roads,so that the ice will melt (solid ice + salt = lower freezing point = water on roads instead of ice)
Dec 10 2011 5:49PM
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californiagrown
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yes. thhe salt melts the topish layer of snow, and then the water refreezes solidly because it is surrounded by cold snow.

why is this a difficult concept for so many people?
Dec 10 2011 6:20PM
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eheath
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This.
Dec 10 2011 6:23PM
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manutdsaol
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haha i saw some kids dumping salt on a jump today and was wondering wtf they were doing
Dec 10 2011 6:36PM
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SanchezShark
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Dec 10 2011 6:49PM
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theabortionator
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I wanted to quote this earlier.


Boofable bathsalts. SAY IT WITHOUT LAUGHING YOU CAN'T
Dec 10 2011 7:04PM
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k-fred
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i said it without laughing

btw use water when it's under -5 and use salt when it's over -5.
Dec 10 2011 10:53PM
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PJS.
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Dec 10 2011 10:53PM
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QuinnBestwick
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ive used both table and bath didnt seem differnt
Dec 10 2011 11:01PM
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broto
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just get the fuck out
Dec 10 2011 11:03PM
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AGOF
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can someone ban this guy please
Dec 10 2011 11:06PM
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theabortionator
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You're doin somethin wrong then.


Boofable bathsalts = win
Dec 10 2011 11:23PM
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dolanslebensraum
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The ice at the surface that melts due to the salt is a higher temperature than the ice that doesnt melt. The melted saltwater trickles down to the lower layers and to the ground. The snow that didnt get melted by the salt is colder, and that snow remains after the salt has leeched all the warm snow away as melt water.
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ButteredToast.
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DolanReloadedThe ice at the surface that melts due to the salt is a higher temperature than the ice that doesnt melt. The melted saltwater trickles down to the lower layers and to the ground. The snow that didnt get melted by the salt is colder, and that snow remains after the salt has leeched all the warm snow away as melt water.


This thread is 7 years old man lol
Dec 4 2018 8:34PM
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dolanslebensraum
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ButteredToast.This thread is 7 years old man lol

I know.
Dec 4 2018 8:39PM
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SofaKingSick
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theabortionatorMy friend had a buddy that would sit and do the individual ketchup things form fast food joints into a ketchup bottle. Too much effort for me. I mean I'm frugal but damn, that's too far


tell him i hate him
Dec 5 2018 12:23PM
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theabortionator
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SofaKingSicktell him i hate him


Im not even sure who that was about ao Ill just tell the next stranger I see that I hate them as a sort of surrogate.
Dec 5 2018 3:18PM
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