Caylor, JJ, S7, or Opus?

If the hookup saves a bunch of cash, you gotta take it

yea, if I were to pull the trigger on the caylors I'd definitely get the Lite version. im a skinny s.o.b.

+1

I really wish they had a 186 though.

your call really, all are awesome skis for sure. it depends on how stiff you want your ski, what company you want to rep, etc

I'll put in my vote for caylor lites as well. Although, tons of people like JJ,s and the Opus sounds awesome this year. I hated the s7 when I skied it. Definitely more directional than any of the other skis you listed. I also wasn't a fan of ON3P billy goats...

However, I own 181 caylors, and they are certainly light and the build quality/durabilty is insane. So yes, once again, caylor lites would be the hot ticket imo.

Opus is good....it's real good

I did too...Until I skied the 191. It's just so.....right!

If you've got a hook-up with Rossi, i'd look into the S6/Sickle.  I keep hearing good things about that ski.

Caylor Lite for sure, the "lite" would make it perfect for your size.

The S6 is a sweet ski, check out a review here:

Dont rule out the 4frnt crj, i was debating between JJ, bentchetler, Bibby and CRJ.  Went with CRJ and am sooo happy with the choice

I'm same height and weight and have pretty much the same question, hopefully you get some good response, and good luck finding a ski

I definitely have had my eyes on the CRJ too. Thanks for bringin that up.


thanks for the replies errybody

Opus or caylor lite. did you consider the 4frnt yle? it looks fun

Anyone else wanna contribute?...

I agree on it being between the opus and the on3ps....I hear nothin but good things about on3ps quality and ride but I haven't rode em....I do have the opus and I can tell ya it's ten shades of badass....

id get the caylors

i have a pair as my powder ski and i love em, im 5 11, about 150 with a race background and theyre pretty much money

+1 for the caylors. Phenomenal ski

I weigh 15lbs more then you and ride C&D...

You need to get on the 193's.

what do you guys think?

Im thinking possibly JJ's and schizo's? or caylors and fks?

You have them listed in order of preference, ie first choice, 2nd choice. Just get your first choice. Always better than skiing a set and wishing you had a different set, even if it saves you a few bucks.

I would stay away from schizos, put fks on either of them. Caylors r good skis from what i've heard, but I LOVE the jj, skied it for two years so far as my everyday ski. U litterally can't make a bad chioce here.

Sorry to thread jack you but..

I was wondering If any one knows how light the "caylor lite" is. Coming for last years bacons will they be a good bc jump ski that i can throw around easy? or will they be more burly but manageable at the same time. I know i will love the ski but im just worried about swing weight. Im the same height/ weight as this guy.

The stock Caylor is a go everywhere do everything pow ski, the light is about 100g lighter than stock and a tad softer in flex. Its not a huge difference between the stock and the Lite, but its noticeable when you ski them back to back. At 5'10 and 170, I'd pick a 191 Lite for myself if I had to choose one ski out of our lineup.

Can someone throw a rundown or comparison of the Caylor 191 lite vs. 185 JJ.

mucho appreciated.

In a nutshell....

Caylor (even in the lite version) is going to be noticeable more stable and comfortable at speed. This is a function of the longer effective edge and larger turn radius more than anything else. Because the radius is larger and there is no taper, it will hold a turn better and feel like more of a true, driven carve. It will also be better opening it up in the open.

The JJ will be noticeably faster edge to edge, quicker to carve, and a lot lighter. The Caylor is a very capable tree ski, but the JJ will have the edge in manuverabilty due to lower swing weight, tapered tips and tails, and the tighter radius underfoot.

The caylor has much larger, more rockered tips, so you will get better float in pure powder with them. As far as the waist goes, the difference between 115mm and 120mm is going to be minor.

Weight wise, the JJ will be lighter. This is because of a few factors:
- Caylors have a 1.8mm base with a 2.5mm edge, where the Armada has a 1.7mm edge and corresponding base. Two different approached here - we prefer durability over saving weight, so we use the thicker edge and bases in everything we build. It DOES add weight, though, so the thinner edges help the JJ with the lighter weight.
- Our 181cm Caylor is going to be more similar in length to the 185cm JJ than the 191cm, due to how we measure our skis. So a 191cm Caylor is going to honestly be 7-10cm longer than the JJ.
- Caylor has no taper, JJ has taper.
- Caylor is a full sandwich, while the JJ is a half-cap (cap in the tips and tails, sidewalls underfoot), which is a lighter design.

They are both awesome skis but definitely suit a different style.

Go with the Caylor if you want:
- Better float in Powder
- Better Stability at speed and in crud
- A larger turn radius and more traditional turn shape which can really be locked into a turn
- Tend to be more aggressive
- Find yourself charging and ripping big turns rather than getting jibby off of features or hunting pow in tight trees

Go with the JJ if you want:
- Better maneuverability in trees and the air
- Lighter, more balanced swing weight
- Much smaller turn radius that is quicker edge to edge and prefers to be skied from a more centered stance
- Find yourself getting jibby of features and hunting pow in tight trees vs charging and ripping big turns.

In the end, if you were a good enough skier you could take the JJ in the cruddiest conditions and make huge, high speed turns, then take the Caylor and jib super technical features in tight trees. But the do excel in different areas, so I would decide which one you think suits you more and go with that choice.

Hope that helps.

thank you so much man! unfortunately the JJ sounds better for my needs, but i wanna support on3p sooo bad! such a sick company!

buy some t-shirts and stickers

ya, 1 will ski with decent length(caylors), and the other will feel like you are on snowblades(JJ)

unless you are skiing SUPER tight trees, or are skinning, caylors dominate JJs in every aspect

^Dude it's like 7cm. It doesn't make much length difference. They're alternatives. I'd buy Caylors (hey look I already own them) but this is one of many instances where two reputable companies make a ski that does more or less the same thing with a few subtle differences that will dictate your choice between one or the other. That, and which company you prefer to support.

Personally I think that half the people buying JJ's are probably better off on Caylors because they're buying them to shred on not to be playful on, but either model will do both things well. Not much to choose between in terms of performance, imo. As for quality On3p has an edge on just about everyone, but Armada has a good rep there as well.

such a hard damn decision.!

JJ's. No doubt best decision i have ever made. you can rip so hard with these skis and take wide turns in the bc

Is this a biased opinion? Have you skied on caylors?

Why not change it up and get the Salomon Rocker 2. I have skied most powder skis including the ones you have looked at, and these are some of the best. A lighter swing weight then the JJ, softer more jib freindly tail then the S7, better carving then the opus and to be honest I have not skied the caylor so I cant comment, but I really like the Rocker 2's defintly worth trying them out.