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I got a possession, paraphenilia, and traffic ticket!!! im freaked out!!!!!

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cliffjumpers
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 i had just bought some and smoked about an hour before the ticket.  i wasnt high, i was coherent and compliant with the officer.  he said he smelled the odor, he then asked if i smoked i said i did a while ago, then he asked if i had a green card i said no.  he said he wanted to search the car.  i UNFORTUNATELY was holding a friends pipe and weed an other shit in my car.  i proceeded to give him the drugs and pipe so that i wouldnt get 6 tickets instead of 3 (i had my pipe and weed in there too).  i dont live in my hometown anymore so i told him i was a full time student, he said they would be able to make a payment plan and help me decide a court date.  he seemed non schaulant about it saying it really wasnt a  big deal, the courts these days deal with this alot... blah blah blah.  i didnt get a DUI which is good but i should have just said no to the search? idk.... i just hope this doesnt fuck me over too bad.  anybody with an idea as to how much im screwed or to how much this is going to cost please help.

-sincerely, a big idiot

Mar 28 2011 7:19PM
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cliffjumpers
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i have a clean record besides that.

Mar 28 2011 7:19PM
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CKpolicy
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youre gonna be fine. where were you?
Mar 28 2011 7:20PM
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AR7rider.
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pwned.
Mar 28 2011 7:21PM
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saranac_tortex
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You can usually get a free lawyer through your school if you go to college and then you should be fine.
Mar 28 2011 7:22PM
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hoodratz47
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dude. all that shit is way better then getting a DUI
Mar 28 2011 7:24PM
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Flying~Squirrel
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youre going to prison.
Mar 28 2011 7:24PM
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BlakeLively
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you done goofed. while the officer might have been fairly chill, courts may not. up in the air.
Mar 28 2011 7:24PM
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soulskier
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you'll be alright
is it really called a green card?
lol
Mar 28 2011 7:28PM
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skier_boy26
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Don't say no to drugs.




Say no, thank you.
Mar 28 2011 7:29PM
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californiagrown
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when its pretty obvious youre fucked, try to get on the officers goodside and just make his life easier. in turn, the officer will usually try and make your life easier. Good job.


this shouldnt fuck your life up much at all, see if you can get a deal where you do some community service, and stay clean for a while so it gets expunged from your record.
Mar 28 2011 7:31PM
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Level4
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shouldnt of told him you smoked
Mar 28 2011 7:31PM
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midwestpowhunter
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first rule of responsible pot smoking....leave ur green at home. they are prolly arent felonies however u dont want to have them on ur record. my recommendation is get a good lawyer even if it means you have to get a credit card and charge his fee to it. Then next semester use ur student loan money to pay it off. Make sure ur mail is forwarded to ur current address or else ur parents are gonna find out which means u should just tell them. good luck bro
Mar 28 2011 7:32PM
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Mr.Turtle
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26-life the mandatory minimum
Mar 28 2011 7:35PM
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Smuckers
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dont worry about shit dude i got caugh with minor amount of coke in my car(not mine) but still speeding ticket plus that i was fine, All i got was 6 years. Just kidding only a fine. Dude youll be ok just hang in there
Mar 28 2011 7:38PM
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-ROY-
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meh the cop is prolly bein pretty straight with u. Go to your court date. that shows that you actually care. mabe you will get lesser fines who knows. other that that they will probs just give you a couple fines and payment plan. no big deal really
Mar 28 2011 7:54PM
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Smuffy
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quoting this for emphasis.

every time ive had any type of run-im with police, just be polite and understanding. they will be much more likely to be nice to you
Mar 28 2011 7:58PM
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theabortionator
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You know how many times they said they've smelled it in my car, They've argued they knew I had drugs, knew I was on drugs, tried to threaten me. A lot. Knock on wood but you really have to know your rights.



Doesn't matter that he said he smelled it. Asks when you smoked. No sir, I only smoke cigarettes, or know sir I don't smoke. Mind If I look inside. Yes sir. If you've got nothing to hide why can I look through it? I know my rights sir, I haven't done anything wrong other than speed, I look like to get on with my day as quickly as possible.


Mar 28 2011 8:10PM
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californiagrown
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sounds like youve gotten real lucky that they had no k9 units available. Or it did look like you actually had your shit together and it was only a 50-50 shot that there was actually illegal stuff in your car.


moral is this: if you think that you have hidden the weed pretty well, deny the search and take your chances with k9 and fight the probable cause in court. or if you are obviously fucked, be very forthcoming and ask the cop how you can make this easiest on yourself as you are a poor student tryna pay for college on your own(or whatever sob story).
Mar 28 2011 10:12PM
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SPskier543
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Have fun trying to get any decent job in the future
Mar 28 2011 10:19PM
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sherwood4099
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Is my meter broken? gimme a break thats the oldest trick in the book
Mar 28 2011 10:33PM
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theabortionator
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It depends. A few times it was something where there wasn't going to be an easy way around it. It wasn't going to be hand me and I'll just write you a ticket. the one time they said they were calling in the dogs. Just acted calm, just sat there and waited. Acted like I wasn't going to be real real fucked if I got caught. Made sure not to move around at all/do anything that they could use as grounds for a search. After a half hour plus of waiting, got slapped with some bullshit tickets like loud exhaust plate lamp. Better than going to jail.

I don't make any obvious lies, I don't just blatantly lie about every aspect. I just omit some stuff change some stuff. Legit story where I was coming from or heading.


Cops are generally assholes about this kind of stuff. Sometimes, sometimes you'll get lucky and the cop will be like give me what you have, doesn't give you a ticket or anything tells you to get the fuck out of there and doesn't want to see you doing it again. Most of the time they just say they'll try to make your life easier and then slap you with everything they possibly could of.

I'd rather take my chances with the possibility that the dogs won't actually come and if they do they might not hit(even though that's highly unlikely since they'll hit on anything and the cops have made them false alert plenty of times) Then somehow the chance that they still won't find it. All of that over ever just admitting it and telling the cop where it is.
Mar 29 2011 12:36AM
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theabortionator
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This is a terrible idea. NEVER NEVER NEVER let them search the car. I had a friend let the cop search the car cause he was actually 100 percent clean. The tiniest piece of a roach under a seat that had probably been there for a year got him a upm.


The world is fucked but you still do have some rights. Doesn't matter what the cop says, always refuse a search. It's you're right to refuse a search. Have the time they couldn't even get a warrant on lack of probably cause. All they need to do is convince you it's the best thing to let them in your car. If they get consent, they don't need a warrant and you're fucked. They will do everything to convince you you have to let them search it, or say if you don't have anything why do you care if I look, mind games all day.


Best bet is to keep everything out of sight and not hotbox your car 24/7. I know people that stash their bowls in their glove boxes. That's fucking brilliant when their registration is also in there. Self'd
Mar 29 2011 12:41AM
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Jahrassicpark
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It might impact you if you want to travel to other countries
Mar 29 2011 2:34AM
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jennyboots
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and should not have let him in your car.
Mar 29 2011 2:43AM
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dreadyboy
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That's why you keep your insurance and regy in your headliner pulling it back at the windshield
Mar 29 2011 2:54AM
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nigel12
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Now in canada i beleive you can deny a search aswell, but im not totslly positive any one have any experiance with dealing with police on a simmilar instance in canada, as someone who may smoke im interested in this as ive had a close call before.
Mar 29 2011 2:55AM
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theabortionator
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Yeah but they didn't think to split them up. Either keep you're nugs someplace else or keep the registration someplace else.
Mar 29 2011 3:12AM
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dreadyboy
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No real experience, but I remember reading that it's pretty similar, best thing is to be respectful, yes sir no sir, try and just get out of it that way, but if they ask keep your mouth shut, don't admit to anything. They aren't allowed to search without a reason. Unless you're under arrest or it's visible they need a warrant or consent to search, which they get out of most people.
Mar 29 2011 3:21AM
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LS.
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your life will officislly be different as of today, not better or worse exactly just different
Mar 29 2011 3:31AM
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californiagrown
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this can work against you too. If you really make the cop work for the drugs/gun/whatever, he is gonna fuck you up to the maximum he can. If you just hand it all over and are contrite, he may still fuck you over, but you have a good shot of him going easy on you too.

You have to read the situation, and think about what the best course of action is for every situation. In this kids case, i think he did the right thing, because weed, and pipe were in his hand, and it sounds like it was really obvious that they were smoking.

Also cops dont NEED probable cause to search, they just need to prove that they had it in court. "Their car reeked of marijuana smoke, and i saw him moving around in his car as i approached it"-boom probable cause to the judge, and no way you can disprove it.
Mar 29 2011 3:49AM
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theabortionator
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Well in most cases, the whole give me the drugs and I'll go easy on you is bullshit. What most can he slap you with than possession the speeding ticket and whatever else you get. Yeah maybe he could have added one more on, but cops taking it easy on people is a bullshit myth for the most part.

With out allowing them to search and knowing your rights you have a pretty decent chance of not getting arrested. With giving him the drugs and being completely honest you have a really ridiculously small chance that maybe maybe maybe, he;ll let you go with a warning or the more likely chance that he'll give you everything he would have and say some bullshit about how he took it easy on you.


And as far as the ending that's true. Cops cross the lines all the time. I'd still rather take my chances of no letting them search my car which basically guarantees me being alright unless they fake having or have probably cause to call in the dogs, the dogs hit and they search and find it, or they lie and said I did something that gave them the right, or actually gave them consent. Would rather go with that any day than be honest and hand the cops something illegal and naively think they'll just let me go with a warning.

This isn't old school cops who just care about helping people and making a difference. For the most part now we have cops who are assholes and will try to stick you for anything they possibly can.
Mar 29 2011 4:35AM
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EastCoastPowBird
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Your a cotton headed ninny muggins!
Mar 29 2011 8:46AM
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VT_FLO
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Its their job you silly pothead. They're not assholes, they get paid to investigate and find out if you have been committing any crimes whether they sympathize or not. They can do that by playing good cop or by playing bad cop.

If you don't do your job you get fired, and if the cop doesn't do his he gets fired.
Mar 29 2011 8:59AM
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Lé.Skiing
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let me sum it up for you.. if you live in canada you're fine.  if you live in the states.. you're still probably gonna be fine, but not as fine, and by fine I mean not the ticket kind I mean the mental well being fine.
Mar 29 2011 9:30AM
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cliffjumpers
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i have the feeling im going to be fine. its just going to suck paying it back. i have friends who got MIPs, they said it sucked but their fine now. i think ill be ok just a matter of time. most of you are sounding a little pesimistic to me. but maybe your right, but i hope not. i dont think itll sceverly impact my future in any way at all to any degree.

Mar 29 2011 11:43AM
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CAPITA-DEVOURS
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well first, he would still get fucked for all thisshit he had on hijm, doesnt matter if he smokes it. idiot
Mar 29 2011 11:47AM
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CAPITA-DEVOURS
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once a cop wants in your car hes gunna get in no matter what. when they ask, or at a later date.
Mar 29 2011 11:49AM
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WikiWiki
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man up

you wanted to smoke and got caught- now you pay

pretty simple idea if you ask me
Mar 29 2011 11:51AM
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beezey
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I've turned down 2 or 3 searches.
Mar 29 2011 11:52AM
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ShredTheGnarnia
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successfully? can we get the stories?
Mar 29 2011 12:36PM
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dbstar
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your life is over
Mar 29 2011 12:37PM
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scratchproteen
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Once he smelt it, you were getting searched...they can pretty much search any time they want...just last month on our way back from Utah we had our buddies pick up with a topper packed full of luggage and skis...we got pulled over for speeding and they searched it all took it all out put it on the side of the road, found nothing and left...we had to put it all back in, that was not fun.
Mar 29 2011 12:50PM
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Alex=God
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smell is actually considered probable cause to search now, atleast in my state.
Mar 29 2011 2:29PM
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pmw
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since when does manning up include giving the government money for putting things in your own body?
Mar 29 2011 3:01PM
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WikiWiki
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it may be wrong that they ban it- but it still is the law- if you have an issue fight to change the law

lets take speeding for instance- I think that in America we should have a freeway system similar to the autobahn in non urban areas. however there are laws that limit speeding- it is my right to choose to speed- however if I get caught I dont come on NS and make a thread whining about getting caught- I man up and pay the fine/get arrested depending on the speed

lets face it- as dumb as having pot being prohibited is- it is still the law and if you choose to break the law- expect consequences if you're caught
Mar 29 2011 3:50PM
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theabortionator
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So just because they're doing their job any of their conduct is automatically acceptable? For me it doesn't work like that.

And also this isn't a, never bust anyone for anything, never take peoples drugs, laugh and smoke with people reply. They could take your drugs give you the speeding ticket and tell you to get the fuck out of there.

There are some situations like lets say your first pretty good car wreck. You're already so rattled there's a good chance you learned your fucking lesson. Getting 3 tickets on top of that by a cop who didn't even see it won't help you learn anything more, and is just fucked in general.


For me I don't care what the cops job is. I have some real issues with the way things are done these days. We keep changing laws and going farther down the tubes. Cops have a ridiculous amount of power with almost know checks.

" silly pothead." Haven't blazed in nearly 2 years. Just an issue right vs. wrong.
Mar 29 2011 5:17PM
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theabortionator
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Facepalm. Sorry but you managed to fit quite a bit of ignorance into 2 real short responses.


To Op, you'll probably be fine. I know plenty of people with upm's that are doing alright. I know some that had to get a lawyer and fight them because of financial aid issues. IT's not something that's going to completely destroy you. You should def look up your rights and get some strategy planned out for if you ever end up in a similar situation.
Mar 29 2011 5:20PM
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-ROY-
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so your saying officers can violate your rights to do their job? fuck that
Mar 29 2011 5:50PM
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beezey
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Yup both successful at getting the cops to not search my car. 1st time the cops were searching for 'guns' at bout 1 in the morning. Told him it was late my boyfriend and I broke up i've been crying I'm tired and I just want to make it home safely. 2nd time the cop had no reason at all to really check my car and I just said no, I had places to go he would be waisting his time instead of maybe catching someone that really was in trouble
Mar 29 2011 5:52PM
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Fluttershy
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ur getting kicked out of school
Mar 29 2011 5:59PM
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