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Break width: how much clearance is necessary? what's too much on a park ski?

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rdr
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I've got a 83mm waist park ski, and I'm thinking about some Look Pivot 14's. (I'm 6' 4", 185lbs.)

But they come in 80mm (narrow), 95mm (wide) and 115mm (XXL).

Which break width should I buy?

Perhaps I can bend the 80's, but when this ski dies and I buy my next ski, it probably will be no thinner than 83mm (which is thin for park).

Is a 95mm break going to get caught up landing switch? What do I have to be on the look out for?

This is a park only setup. No all mountain concerns, etc.

Alternatively, I can go for a binding that comes in a 90mm, such as a STH 12 Driver or Head Mojo 12. Advice welcome and +Karma for any help!!
Mar 19 2011 9:20PM
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rdr
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Marker Griffon's have also been suggested (90mm break).
Mar 19 2011 9:22PM
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blah..
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My Sth 12's are great bindings, and if it comes with a break width that's your size all the better!
Mar 19 2011 9:27PM
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bluehouseskis
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get 80mm and bend them. 95 WILL BEND and be a pain in the butt.

Get the 80's and take a heat gun to them. But then bend them!! PM if you want some more info. I bend all my breaks!

But having them bend on the mountian is a pain in the ass.
Mar 19 2011 9:27PM
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rdr
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Couldn't I bend the 95mm brakes in closer with a heat gun too? Or is there a good reason to widen brakes and not make them narrower through bending? I could conceivably bend the 115mm breaks in too, no?

Thoughts?
Mar 19 2011 11:56PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Do 80's, not catching your pants or other brake when skiing is worth 50 bucks.
Mar 19 2011 11:59PM
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lakers2010
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yea do the 80mm as posted before. i have mojo 12's on my anthems and its an 88mm brake on a 93mm waist and mine bent decent. only thing is somethimes when my skis ice up the brakes dont go down wen i eject.....otherwise no problems and have never bent a brake funny.
Mar 20 2011 12:12AM
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cobra_commander
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I do not suggest using heat. You will weaken the break significantly. Just use a vice and a tool.
Mar 20 2011 12:18AM
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rdr
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I don't think there's any cost issue, but I agree that these matters trump $50.

That said, I'm going to need to bend the 80's to fit the 83mm waist (or more like 85mm, since the ski has side cut and the heal is not over the center) and so my new question is: why not just bend the 95mm?
Mar 20 2011 12:41AM
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rdr
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yeah but a pivot 14 narrow (80mm) would have trouble fitting a 93mm I'm guessing. If I could bend the 95mm so there's no chance of catching, then I could bend them back if I ever got, e.g., some anthems.


Mar 20 2011 12:43AM
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lakers2010
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i mean the things are 25 bucks on untracked.com if you end up gettin new skis in more than one full season its worth it just to buy a new larger break for the wider waist ski. just my 2cents.
Mar 20 2011 1:27AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Think of the brake arms. A 80 brake will fit over a 83 ski no problem.
Mar 20 2011 1:39AM
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backwardsrider
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you wont need to bend the 80s at all. it's 1.5 mm on each side...
Mar 20 2011 1:52AM
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rdr
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Ah, you're talking about getting extra brakes? I don't think the Pivot's have swappable breaks. On untracked.com
http://www.untracked.com/c82-ski_bindings_brakes.html

there are only PX and Axial breaks, no Pivot breaks. The break does come out, but I've never seen anywhere the option to buy a break on its own for the Pivot. Perhaps someone knows better than I and knows whether I can buy separate breaks that are compatible with the Pivots?
Mar 20 2011 1:52AM
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cobra_commander
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I have been bending that 80mm look break over skis up to 120mm wide for years.
Mar 20 2011 1:53AM
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bluehouseskis
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This is very true. If you don't have to use heat. Don't.
Mar 20 2011 11:57AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Nope. Pivots are fucked. You can replace the breaks, Gator has a great guide for that, but its nothing I would recommend, plus you usually have to go through Rossi or have a shop special order them for you.

I'd still go for 80's and just bend them when you move up to wider skis, or hope that by that time Rossi is selling them individually online. Bendings a bitch, but everyone did it before they came out with wide breaks for pivots...
Mar 20 2011 2:22PM
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ILLinoisance
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80mm brake on a 83mm ski is not that big of a deal to bend. I bent 80mm brake PX12's to my 93mm underfoot Rossis quite easily, but i did have to shave off the plastic on the brake arms. Go 80mm for sure, it won't be much of a bend, if any, at all.
Mar 20 2011 2:59PM
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