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Pass to eliminate gapers from the park

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Balzberg
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so everywhere in CO, gapers are in the park doing idiotic stuff, and i know that winter park requires a pass to get in the park, and i was thinking it would be a good idea for the future to have a pass that gives access to all parks in colorado, and to get it you'd have to somehow show you have common sense
what you guys think of this idea?
Mar 16 2011 8:10PM
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A.Eberhard
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It's called a park pass and it's implemented at a lot of mountains...
Mar 16 2011 8:12PM
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StillGhood
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I think you should worry about you instead of worrying about everyone else.

You'd probably be a lot happier if insignificant 5hit like that bothers you

Mar 16 2011 8:13PM
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skier_boy26
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A lot of resorts have park passes. I personally think they are excellent. A little red tape goes a long way.

If you think a park pass would be good for the places you frequent, write coherent, solid letters.

But keep this in mind: a park pass is a good filter for gapers, but it does not eradicate them all by any means.
Mar 16 2011 8:13PM
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-ROY-
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^
Mar 16 2011 8:13PM
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Sklar
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you tell 'em alsberg
Mar 16 2011 8:13PM
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tripnip
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depends... if it costs money fuck no gtfo
if i have to take a class no
winter park has it because they have a gaper infestation every where you look there is a family in summit county there is even less so it all depends because some ski areas there aren't to many and like keystone they have a huge park but you dont see too many gapers over there so i think the over all answer for where i live is no
Mar 16 2011 8:14PM
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DADDYlongLEGS
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Wat if I want to bring some gaper friends to the park? Maybe a pass just for the bigger park and let the havoc ensue in the baby park(s).
Mar 16 2011 8:16PM
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zagfan5
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sounds like breck. minus the pass part.
Mar 16 2011 8:18PM
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-GL-
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this^
Mar 16 2011 8:19PM
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danimal5
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or your tall t has to be sticking out of your jacket to be allowed in
Mar 16 2011 8:20PM
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cobra_commander
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unless it costs money and/or requires a class you probably won't see any change.

I think whistler did it the best, two different parks, regular and pro, the pro park requires a pass, the others don't.
Mar 16 2011 8:32PM
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justinstlaurent
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actually, I was at bromont yesterday, and to my dissmay there were 60+ year olds WITH park passes that were skiing turns through the park, over the landings of the jumps, and right beside the rails. shit was devastating yo
Mar 16 2011 8:39PM
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terrible_skier
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YOU STOLE MY ICON! DIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Mar 16 2011 8:47PM
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suckmyjagon
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What about getting them out with a slick setup?

Put the smaller park next to the super-park. In between, put a cruisy run with old-school features...Stuff to duck under...some tiny little baby-features. Call it the family park, and put a double-black diamond with skull-n-crossbones on the big park.

Then the families could roll through a park of sorts, and still watch the big guys throw down. You can't hate on the little kids for looking up to you. From what I can see, this whole site was playing pokeman and jumping off the sides of kickers 5 years ago anyway.
Mar 16 2011 8:49PM
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T.MARTIN
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correction it's called a GUN...
Mar 16 2011 8:51PM
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utt
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haha except no gaper knows how to get to freeway they all think its fenced off
Mar 16 2011 8:53PM
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Chompo.
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I think it would be best to take a short class (i mean real short because any class will deter gapers) to get a park pass and then have the pass valid for the year at all resorts.
Mar 16 2011 8:54PM
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cbeebzthasteeze
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Woah now, Poekmon battles are intense.
Mar 16 2011 8:56PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Park passes work as long as Park Crews are well funded and well staffed. If the park pass rules are not enforced and there are no employees to pull passes from idiots creating dangerous situations, theres no point in having it.
Mar 16 2011 8:58PM
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crab_pretzel
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this is a pretty good idea. im personally for park passes because the other day a guy in his upper 50s flew over a nuckle on his hip really really fast and barely missed me. that would have hurt and id be pretty pissed, so people like them should get out of the parks. this all raises how you get a park pass however
Mar 16 2011 9:06PM
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Barentine
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I went over to the small park on 9 (just past mercury) to try grabs on 3's (yeah, I'm not so good yet) and they took out the jumps. Now it's just the box's and rollers. Talked to a lifty about it and some vacationer with back issues thought it'd be fun to try and he broke his back; they took out the jumps because of liability I guess...
Mar 16 2011 9:10PM
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YoungJah
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I thought parks were designed of doing idiotic things?
Mar 16 2011 9:18PM
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terrible_skier
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no seriously im pissed. change your icon.
Mar 16 2011 9:36PM
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Bi-ShredinalGuy
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HAHA
Mar 16 2011 9:42PM
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PeterWojnar
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Or you could come to Alpine Meadows, where the big park is so fuckin' big that the gapers don't even bother trying to go near it. I don't go near it either, that shit scares me.
Mar 16 2011 9:43PM
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AWALLRUS.
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park passes help, but they definately dont work that well. the only difference is instead of gapers wandering into the park and ruining things is that with a park pass, their parents get one too so theres not just retards in the park, there is also families. still i'd rather have a park pass system then not
Mar 16 2011 10:06PM
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.spaghetticat.
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Ski in virginia then you can see gapers in the park. Once we got a chick to yell at gapers who were trying to get in the park
Mar 16 2011 10:30PM
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fratskier69
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so true, it gets rid of almost all kids who have no idea what they are doing and are going to kill themself, but hte ones that get the park pass feel like they have more of a purpose there. im not against this, i welcome everyone into the park, but when these kids have a pass, they dont take advice from anyone, like "dont stand on landings" etc.
Mar 16 2011 10:35PM
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sammy_
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we have park passes at my mountain. you have to take a quiz about the rules and stuff its so easy and its free but they only check in our main park so at the pipe and the jib park next to it so we get gapers there all the time which sucks...so hopefully next season they wil enforce it at the pipe and jib park
Mar 16 2011 10:46PM
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garrets
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we have to take a test and pay 10 bucks but it's worth it cus it keeps the park crowds way down

Mar 16 2011 10:52PM
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SPskier543
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Real skiers should support all skiers, not be fags. How about a pass to eliminate people like you from the parks? Should help roommate those negative vibes from people like you.
Mar 16 2011 10:55PM
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Randy_Quench
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haha gotta remember PEEPS
Park Etiquette and Education Program
Mar 16 2011 10:57PM
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SPskier543
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*remove not roommate. Stupid iPod auto correction
Mar 16 2011 10:57PM
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Barentine
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A good start to supporting all skiers, would be not using sexual orientation as an insult.
Mar 16 2011 11:00PM
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SPskier543
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I don't support skiers who don't support all skiers, that is the one exception. No gapers in park=no park skiers in later years. It's a cycle, people arnt born good. I agree they probably should not be in the larger parks, but if they arnt doing much wrong, why not? I can't stand some skiers attitudes like they run/own the park at their hill and they think they are in charge and can talk down to people.
Mar 16 2011 11:05PM
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Randy_Quench
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this. I want any given member on this sight to tell me that they never side jumped as a kid or took a slow noob lap through a park when they first learned to ski. Hell, THATS WHY WE ARE HERE. if my "gaper" dad never took me down a terrain park id probably not even ski. it wouldnt be worth it to me here on the east coast.

think how you react to side jumping gapers next time. kindly telling them to move, or even giving simple advice could make them into a dope park skier.
Mar 16 2011 11:08PM
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Balzberg
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I only even made this thread because of the number of dangerous/stupid things that I've seen gapers do in Steamboat's park in the last couple of days. The other day a women was sitting on the jump and I told her she shouldn't sit there, and her husband came and threatened to fight me and all kinds of stuff. They should only not let people without a pass into the big parks, they won't hurt anyone in the mini park.
Mar 16 2011 11:13PM
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sammy_
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good point.... i think you have changed my mind. its the circle of life but with skiing gapers are like the confused young lion cubs who eventually become eager to learn how to survive in the world after they are done messing around with the other cubs (other gapers) soon they have more knowledge they go off on their own......i kind of got distracted and lost where i was going with this story but from the looks of it you should get the point i think.

reading this post makes me sound stupid..
Mar 16 2011 11:45PM
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_DUSTY_
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I don't mind people who are learning park that ski in the park. However there is a shit ton of people who can't even ski that enjoy going over the rollers of the jumps and cut through the landings. This is way to dangerous and they deserve all the shit that they get from people who are actually riding park. I don't really like the idea of a park pass though, I have never skied at a resort that has one but it seems like it would slow down my park laps.
Mar 16 2011 11:49PM
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skier_boy26
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Yea I think too many people are misconstruing "gaper."

Park passes are great because they do a couple of things. One being: they provide a filter for people that may just roll through the park unaware of what is going on. Nothing wrong with riding the park if you aren't good, but if you are putting yourself and others who are aware of what's up in danger, then that is irresponsible. Ingrained in that is there is increased awareness of what features are for.

Prior to when my home mountain got a park pass system, it wasn't uncommon for little family groups to wedge down landings of 60ft jumps, or for people to post up on the knuckles of jumps, rails, etc. They were creating very dangerous situations, and most of the time they were completely unaware of the risk they posed.

Perhaps recent bitching about gapers led this argument the wrong way. Passes don't target beginner skiers decked out with saga. They target all, to increase safety and awareness in a fun, but potential dangerous, part of the mountain.

Mar 16 2011 11:55PM
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Yung_Gnarley
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I used to be polite to gapers and ask them to move.
But yesterday at Keystone they were fucking everywhere. Like every lip and landing.
I pretty much just yelled, "Get out of the god damn way!" while waving my arm in between every feature.
Gotta give props to the park crew though. They were yelling at anyone being idiotic too. Shit was seriously getting unsafe in there.

I would be riding up to a feature and see a whole clan of gapers traversing across the run. I had to stop multiple times to avoid running over their little fun train. Or I would go off a cannon rail, for example, and see a 40 year old lady in the landing. Just standin there. Hangin out.

These people have no regard for the rules that keep terrain parks safe. They don't bother to even take a quick look at the terrain park code. It is disrespectful to people that ride the terrain park regularly. A good comparison would be someone driving a car without knowing any of the traffic laws. Obviously that would be unsafe for them and others around them. Their lack of knowledge could very well lead to the injury/death of an innocent driver that does follow the rules. Gapers in the park show behavior of the same nature. They don't know the "laws" of the park and that, in turn, puts others at risk.
Mar 17 2011 2:41AM
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Ducky.
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You're not very smart, are you.
Mar 17 2011 2:42AM
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Banane.
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Dont work man, still have some gapers and mom. But its better rhen nothing, plus money is invested in the park.
Mar 17 2011 5:26AM
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mcswizzle
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I feel that a lot of gapers just go to the park so they can watch death defying stunts but often choose a bad place to post up. If park passes can't be managed maybe there should be a spectator area or something? Just to tell people where to be and where not to be. Might not be as effective, but it would at least reduce the amount of carnage.
Mar 17 2011 5:31AM
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.spaghetticat.
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At my park half of the money we make is all gapers if they can't get into the park they won't pay
Mar 17 2011 7:00AM
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.RYAN66
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do you know that it costs a lot of money to run a park, thats why some people on here bitch about their park but if they have to pay ten extra bucks to keep gapers out of the park and help have a better park. /end rant
Mar 17 2011 10:41AM
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Balzberg
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this.
Mar 17 2011 11:13AM
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b-ladd
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So I went to visit my home mountain, Okemo, over Christmas break, and found out they implemented a park pass system. The way it works is you take a simple test that anyone with any sort of basic knowledge of park etiquette should pass first try, and you get your pass. They have one of the park crew standing at the top of the big park checking passes. Since my friends and I lapped through so many times, we really only had to show our passes once, so it didn't slow down our park laps at all. For anyone that doesn't know, Okemo labels itself as a family mountain and prides it self on catering to weekend warriors and families on vacation. With the park pass system in place, the park was way less crowded than I've seen before, and it seemed like people rolling through who clearly weren't park skiers had a better idea of how to be safe in the park. In the smaller park, you still had plenty of little kids and gapers all over the place, but that's what that park is for.

sparknote: Park passes. I'm for 'em.

Mar 17 2011 11:35AM
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monkatizer
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dig a mote around the park, and if u wanna get in u gota grind a straight rail over it.

/thread
Mar 17 2011 12:08PM
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pink_squid
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A HELLZ NOOOO dude gapers is where i get my funnies. no but seriously bad idea. evrybodys gotta start sumwhere. stop hating and deal with it.
Mar 17 2011 12:22PM
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