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NFL lockout question..

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skia4life89
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What exactly is going on? Like what is causing so much debate? I have searched google for the reason but I cant find one that is easy to understand.
Can someone put into lamens terms so that a fellow nser can understand?
thanks.
Mar 15 2011 11:57PM
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AR7rider.
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Mar 15 2011 11:59PM
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gnarshrelpt
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Basically the owners want two more games added onto the the season so they can make more money. they also want to keep the players salary the same instead of paying them for the extra two games
Mar 16 2011 12:00AM
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saucybiscuits
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players want more money

owners do not want to pay them more

players might refuse to play,

or NFL will not allow players to play.

either way, fall this year is going to suck that much more.
Mar 16 2011 12:00AM
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bangarangmules
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There is way to much money to be made for millionaires to be bitching about their salaries.
Mar 16 2011 12:01AM
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kootenayklaus
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I am so fucking glad this is happening, if it does.
I am sick of watching football every saturday and sunday from fall to mid winter.
Mar 16 2011 12:02AM
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skia4life89
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the whole thing seems kind of stupid..Its the players job to play..and they expect to be paid for it. Why shouldnt they? If they play 2 extra games they should be paid. To a normal person that would be like working 2 days for free. It dosnt work that way.
Mar 16 2011 12:02AM
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-ROY-
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wtf is wrong wit u son?
Mar 16 2011 12:04AM
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AR7rider.
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I think they make much more than the normal person, and much more than they need to be paid in the first place. That extra money should go towards charities. This shit pisses me off so much.
Mar 16 2011 12:04AM
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skia4life89
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no i agree with you..I am just saying the owners cannot expect their EMPLOYEES to work for free. Even though they are making millions and millions of dollars a year, its still the same concept.
Mar 16 2011 12:06AM
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malonius_funk
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i agree with what you're saying, but i don't think that most players should be whining about what they are making money-wise. these athletes make SO much money, i don't see why money needs to be an issue with them. i also think that playing 18 games is WAY to long, even 16 games is WAY to long. fuck money, all it does is cause problems
Mar 16 2011 12:07AM
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AR7rider.
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I agree with you too, the whole thing is just stupid.
Mar 16 2011 12:08AM
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.brian
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You take that back.

Another major part of this is the owners told the players that they're losing money, but will not show the players the records.
Mar 16 2011 12:11AM
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pinhead_larry
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To add to this discussion, Adrien Petersen, a star running back, quoted today that the NFL player system is like modern day slavery. Making $5 Mil a year sure sounds like slavery to me.
Mar 16 2011 12:14AM
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bangarangmules
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hah! are you serious??
Mar 16 2011 12:16AM
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Durbinator
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The SuperBowl was suppose to be in Indiana!! Colts are the best!!
Mar 16 2011 12:16AM
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californiagrown
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the average career in the NFL is less than 3 years. most of these players play on the practice squad. The majority of NFL players make less than 700k per year, and they ARE NOT taught any money mgmt skills. they have large families back home in poor areas that are relying on them to pull them out of poverty. Once they are done playing football at age 26, they have no college degree, and no job prospects. Many have suffered debilitating injuries that will really affect them later on in life.

alot of the arguing comes down to the players want more money for the pension fund to help older players suffereing dementia at age 45, and chronic knee, hip, and back pain.

The players also want a rookie salary cap so the unproven rookies are not payed way more than proven veterans.


Not everyone who plays in the league becomes rich. that is the very few. The players want alot of the 9billion in profit to be funneled towards that pension fund, to protect thmselves latter in life.
Mar 16 2011 12:19AM
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kootenayklaus
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Play a real sport, rugby, hockey, something. NOT football. I swear to god I can't make it through a quarter without getting bored. Go, stop, go, stop. That's all it is.
Mar 16 2011 12:21AM
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malonius_funk
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very good argument californiagrown, very good
Mar 16 2011 12:22AM
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pinhead_larry
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Yeah here's the link http://1500espn.com/sportswire/Pelissero_Amiable_Adrian_Petersons_ignorant_words_wont_be_forgotten031511. These guys are soooooo selfish
Mar 16 2011 12:26AM
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scratchproteen
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the owners want to make it an 18 game season, while not increasing the salary of the players for the additional two games, and the players do not want an 18 game season at all.

So basically they are stuck there, and thats where it will stay until one side folds which both are so stubborn they are risking the entire season.

If the season does not happen that will cause the NFL to lose 4 billion dollars, which would be a huge hit and the NFL would never be the same for a large number of years...but the biggest toll would be on the communities that have NFL teams, game day generates so much revenue for the local economy, for local stores, restaurants, bars etc.

So they should just leave it the same. Both sides are being bitches.
Mar 16 2011 12:32AM
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scratchproteen
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the owners want to make it an 18 game season, while not increasing the salary of the players for the additional two games, and the players do not want an 18 game season at all.

So basically they are stuck there, and thats where it will stay until one side folds which both are so stubborn they are risking the entire season.

If the season does not happen that will cause the NFL to lose 4 billion dollars, which would be a huge hit and the NFL would never be the same for a large number of years...but the biggest toll would be on the communities that have NFL teams, game day generates so much revenue for the local economy, for local stores, restaurants, bars etc.

So they should just leave it the same. Both sides are being bitches.
Mar 16 2011 12:32AM
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bangarangmules
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This is a good argument, but one could say that they know the risks that they are taking playing professional football. It's a shitty situation when stuff like that happens, but they knew that it was always a possibility.
Mar 16 2011 12:35AM
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vailsux.com
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player hater.
Mar 16 2011 12:37AM
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bangarangmules
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Damn, thanks for posting me the link. +k
Mar 16 2011 12:39AM
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californiagrown
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i feel you, but these players are told since they were 10 years old that they are gods gift to football, and they will be rich off football. Many dont know the risks they are taking, all they know is that their team needs them to play through the pain to win, so they do that.

EVERY SINGLE PLAYER WHO PLAYS IN THE NFL WILL SUFFER PHYSICAL AILMENTS LATER ON IN LIFE FROM THEIR PLAYING DAYS. Why shouldnt they have a pension fund for when they are older? there is absolutely enough money to go around.
Mar 16 2011 1:08AM
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bangarangmules
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This. Actually a legit idea for all of the excessive amount of money that a professional sport such as NFL creates.
Mar 16 2011 1:09AM
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infedel_one
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clearly you are of the fairer sex. pansyass
Mar 16 2011 1:13AM
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icon1234
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Yea they should invest that cash in pension to pay the players even more money after they retire, clearly normal living expenses outweighs the millions of dollars they make.

I thought the argument was owners wanted more games, without paying athletes more, and I can understand why they (the players) don't want that.
Mar 16 2011 1:51AM
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Static
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yes they can, this is America an employer can ask just about anything of his employee, and that employee has the choice to comply or find other employment. If your boss says "Hey I need you to bust out a couple extra projects this month" you either do it or you look for another job. I can guarantee once you make it into the workforce your responsibilities will grow at a faster rate than your salary.
Mar 16 2011 2:21AM
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