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Mr.Panda
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So, I have been using a boil n bite for awhile and the fucking thing keeps falling out of my mouth unless I keep my jaw clamped shut so I have a question.

For any of the athletes on NS that use one for high impact sports from wrestling to football or lacrosse what do you guys use? I was looking at these two brands (considering I need one cause I get punched in the mouth) but don't know very much about mouthguards.

http://www.shockdoctor.com/product/custommouthguard.aspx

http://fightdentist.com/
Feb 8 2011 7:03PM
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1337
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have you tried pushing a boil and bite around your teeth when forming it? That worked for me when i used one for soccer
Feb 8 2011 7:05PM
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Anathema
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eh to me they feel the same. the only real difference is the dental warranty. the shock docs are apparently supposed to position your jaw a certain way when you bite down, which is supposed to help protect from concussions and that sort of shit but i dont believe it. those 2 dollar cheap ones are all ive used forever. i have no problem with it sitting in place, just need to make sure you boil it enough and when you fit it, push hold the sides of it in so it wraps around your teeth rather than just resting against them. if you fit it properly, you should have no problem with it falling out
Feb 8 2011 7:06PM
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pinhead_larry
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You can get the ones that go on your lower jaw. They are just quite a bit more expensive.
Feb 8 2011 7:08PM
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Mr.Panda
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Maybe I just need to get another.

I have read the Nike boil n bite ones are a little better than some of the more cheap ones you would find but I can never find a place that sells them.

I want something that lasts is the thing. I have had 2 boil n bites in like a year and a half and both fit well at the beginning and ended up falling apart and falling out. Knowing me I probably sized them wrong.
Feb 8 2011 7:09PM
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RubberSoul
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glad i don't have to wear those damn things anymore. smart and safe as hell, but annoying as shit to have in your mouth for a while
Feb 8 2011 7:11PM
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Anathema
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oh well in terms of durability, im not sure, but i go through the regular cheap ones like crazy. but even still, the shock docs are like $30-40 here whereas the other's are like a 1.50. i dont mind burning through one of those every month, but i've used those forever for skiing, hockey, sparring, etc. the more pricy ones are always recommended for kids who have had braces and want the dental warranty, but if i lose a tooth, i really dont care that much, hahaa. i'd just rock the hockey player look. it's all about personal comfort, but i mean, just make sure you boil em up real nice and soft and when you've got the thing in your mouth to fit it as it's cooling, bite down a bit and press the top of it against your gums so it hugs your teeth
Feb 8 2011 7:14PM
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Mr.Panda
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Yeah, I may get a Shockdoctor custom one. I know it's a 150 dollar investment but my teeth haven't been you know, cheap. Also with the Shockdoctor custom one I get a boil-n-bite to use as well.

And hearing about how to boil them from you I think I took them out of the water too fast.
Feb 8 2011 7:18PM
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SCOO-WOOP
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I got a pro form Red White and Blue one.

It works really well.


It cost me $35 bucks.
Feb 8 2011 7:22PM
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Slinger1x1
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i hated the boil and bite mouth guards.

i went to a local dentist who said she could make two different kinds. should could make this simple one, which was cheaper but did the trick made by ProForm, or an Under Armour one that was legit and super expensive. either way we would have them covered under insurance to a certain extent, less so the UA one.

So i went through the process of all the molding which was interesting, and then they sent away the molds to be done.

i got it back and it was great. i've heard of some others being a little more tightly fitting, but this one really isnt a problem. it stays in well and is very low profile. i use it for lacrosse and its great. maybe i'll get a new one for college and go with the UA one

one weird thing was that we (me and the dentist) had to lie and say it was for teeth grinding. for some reason, our insurance pays for a mouth guard for teeth grinding, but not a mouth guard for sports. its funny because sports are actually dangerous...
Feb 8 2011 7:28PM
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Turnup_swiperigh
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first boil and bite i had the same problem you did, my second one i didnt let it cool off after the boil as long ( making the mouth guard material softer) and bit down into it more, stays in.
Feb 8 2011 7:35PM
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Mr.Panda
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I have a night guard for grinding my teeth. I fucking hate that thing.


I don't think this one would be covered by insurance (at least those two custom ones I posted) but I talked to a guy at my gym that is an amateur level fighter and also talked to two guys that are in the UFC currently and all of them say the boil-n-bites can take a height. Also, because of the amount of money my parents have put into my teeth (the teeth grinding guard thing, cavity filling and other such things) I want something that is for sure going to protect them.
Feb 8 2011 7:37PM
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Slinger1x1
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start calling dentists around the area and ask them if they make custom mouth guards. i actually used this http://www.underarmour.com/shop/us/en/find-a-dentist to find the dentist that made mine. luckily she had the two options.

and talk to them about getting it covered by insurance. they can get pricey, but they are definitely worth it. or there are some cheaper ones around the internet that you can get for more like $50 that i've found. i did a lot of looking around when i was looking for mine
http://www.protektmouthguards.com/
Feb 8 2011 7:44PM
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ElbridgeGerry
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http://www.eastbay.com/product/model:158083/sku:1223503/under-armour-armourbite-mouthpiece/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH


That's the one I used this past season, cept it was like red and yellow so I felt like ironman.




Works well, but I dunno for MMA because maybe they wear them so you don't get your teeth knocked out? in addition to stopping concussions.
Feb 8 2011 7:50PM
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Mr.Panda
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Yeah, ours are mostly for protecting the teeth and your tongue as well (one guy in Vale Tudo in the 90s almost bit of his tongue when he was kneed in the head) but also to help some with concussions.
Feb 8 2011 7:53PM
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ORDEAL
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Shockdocter. Had one for karate, and it worked like a charm. I have all of my teeth
Feb 8 2011 7:54PM
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ElbridgeGerry
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Tapout makes mouthguards with a 30,000 dollar warranty. That might be something you wanna look into, considering they're actual fight mouthguards. I used one last year, they're decently comfortable.
Feb 8 2011 7:55PM
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CMYK
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Im a huge fan of the ones that fit on your lower teeth, those never fall out.
Feb 8 2011 8:12PM
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Inbred_Redneck
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I've got a double everlast mouthguard for bullriding. Like all the forming ones, you have to pushed the edges around your outside gums and teeth to keep it in place.
Feb 8 2011 8:14PM
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Skithedeep
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i always had the dentist make mine. they make an impression wit this pink putty stuff (the dentist left it on too long once and had to pry it off of my face. not fun) but they fit like a glove and dont fall out. they form the roof of your mouth too, very comfortable, dont really know how much that will cost ya tho
Feb 8 2011 8:48PM
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Turnup_swiperigh
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my dad had a custom one made, cost him like over $200,shits expensive

Feb 8 2011 8:55PM
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soulskier
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my orthodontist made me one, it retained position very well
Feb 8 2011 9:28PM
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skithesprings
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haha, back in my lax days i had one of those 2 dollar ones and i cut the back off so it only covered my front 4 teeth. i cant breathe with those damn things in my mouth but i never had a problem with smashing my teeth together or biting my tongue.
Feb 8 2011 10:43PM
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Mr.Panda
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Well I talked with my instructors and they told me to go with this one:
http://www.mmawarehouse.com/Shock-Doctor-Custom-Fitted-Mouthguard-Impression-K-p/shk-1046.htm
Feb 9 2011 1:05AM
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B.Aussie
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I got mine made by my dentist and it was $60. Went in got a mold, picked colours and then a weeek later picked it up. It's comfortable, so much so I don't notice it and it stays in really well + protects my teeth. Have gotten a few concussions in it, but that was by hitting my head not kneeing myself in the jaw.
Feb 9 2011 4:34AM
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cobra_commander
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I had my dentist make me one, it rocked, hardly noticed it while playing.
Feb 9 2011 4:36AM
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Laurent.
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Shock doctors are marginably better then regular moldy mouth guards, I play field hockey and one of my friends wore a shock doc a couple of years ago when he got a stick against his mouth and he basically lost 8 teeth, besides that they are bulky and make your mouth look silly.

I've been using the ones which are molded by dentist for years.
Pro's:
~Low Profile
~Don't look daft
~Actually stick to your teeth.
~Don't impair speech
~Protect better (Another friend got hit against his mouth aswell wearing a mouthguard molded by the dentist. and he sustained nothing but a really big lip. Also this was in a senior year: he was hit way harder.

Con's
~Price, but common your teeth deserve better then a 5 dollar piece of plastic, theeth are for life so better protect them well.



Feb 9 2011 4:55AM
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COrider
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How much did that cost? The one I had last season was pretty annoying, stayed in my mouth but was super hard to talk with which is something I did a lot playing D. Plus it was really hard to breathe with.
Feb 9 2011 5:14AM
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Laurent.
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If I recall it correctly my Hockey club sponsored us so they went from 80 euros to around 35 euros.
But that price wouldn't really be relevant to you with me living in the Netherlands and you in the U.S.
Feb 9 2011 5:35AM
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COrider
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Gives me sort of an idea, thanks.
Feb 9 2011 5:49AM
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dispatchQ_main
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I used to buy the pro-form ones, until i realised the 2 dollar ones feel very simmilar. And i can get them in all clear so it looks that much better. As for forming with the boil and bites, ive always been told to suck in while biting down. Ive never had a problem with them falling out, so i guess it works? Im not sure what you're using it for but hockey these are fine. If your doing anything a bit more extreme i'd probably invest in a better guard.
Feb 9 2011 10:01AM
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no_steeze
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when i played hockey and lax competitively i used a custom one from the training office at my school, i forget which company did them, but you bite into this foam thing and they send it to the company and you get a super thin, good fitting mouthguard that never falls out

i also used to have success with shock doctor mouthguards if you mold them, press around your teeth, suck all the air out of your mouth, and then attack them with scissors once they've cooled off and trim all the excess and ends. you can make a minimalist guard that works well
Feb 9 2011 10:10AM
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http://nopadon.smugmug.com/Other/Blog-Images/111/140656669_exgDu-O.jpg
Feb 9 2011 10:14AM
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s.parker
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http://www.customguards.com/

Thats what i use for lacrosse/skiing

theyre wicked comfy and they dont fall out of your mouth
Feb 9 2011 10:55AM
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tuomas-p
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http://www.powrgardsports.com/index.php?pwg_extreme
I have been using these.
Feb 9 2011 11:00AM
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Bar_Down
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i use a boil and bite and it stays in there. i dunno, i just followed the instructions and it worked. i think the key part is sucking out all the air from in it while its forming around your teeth to make sure it shapes itself perfectly. then, as you're taking it out' make sure you dont change the shape and just put it under a slow stream of cold water for a bit
Feb 9 2011 12:07PM
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BrewskiJr
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there was a thread about a month ago with a lot of good responses.. but ill post mine again.

My dad's a dentist so I get custom mouth guards from him each year. there is nothing that compares to getting a custom mouth guard from a dentist. you can talk easier, breathe a lot easier, and it stays in place molded to your teeth even when your mouth is wide open.


Feb 9 2011 12:10PM
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Bar_Down
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and if anything, if it keeps falling out, you can just rock the patrick kane look
Feb 9 2011 12:13PM
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Mr.Panda
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Well, unfortunately my dentist it would cost like $500 and all the guys at the gym I go to told me to get the ShockDoctor custom one as that company was created by a dentist who checks all the custom one to make sure they are made properly. I just have to take the mold myself is all.
Feb 9 2011 5:28PM
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