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Skii's For A Person Who Has Never Skiied Before

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NyJibber09
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What's going on everyone? Like the Title says I have never skiied before. I have been Snowboarding for 9 years now and decided I want to give Skiing a try. I am mainly a park person but at the same time I still do go on runs. I am looking for an All- Mount/ Park ski. I was looking into the Line Afterbang or the Line Masterminds. I am not sure if this is a good decision or not if someone could give me some help.If you think that those ski's are both a bad decision if there is anything you could recommend please don't hesitate Even sizing I know when it comes to a board If you go in the park you want a smaller board for better mobility is this true with ski's as well?

Little description:

Height: 6'0
Weight: 188
Skill Level; Deff a beginner
Riding Style: Park
Feb 2 2011 8:28PM
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SkiTheYeast
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if your a begginer i wouldnt suggest getting into park right away. learn how to rip groomers then take your shit to the park. of the two skis your looking id say masterminds, there more of a beginner park ski. i had them and id consider my self a intermideate to advanced skier. i loved them they had a lot of pop really light weight super easy to learn on!

Feb 2 2011 8:49PM
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SeanTom
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afterbangs obviously.
Feb 2 2011 8:50PM
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FerrisBueller
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Go get some rental skis and learn to tear up the groomers and rollers, then go in a little powder and moguls for the feeling, then you can some new park style skis to begin to learn that but you deffs need the basics of skiing first. Then masterminds sounds good for you.
Feb 2 2011 8:51PM
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NyJibber09
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Alright sounds like a pair of rentals will do for now. Is it different riding twin tips rather than the regular style ski?
Feb 2 2011 9:07PM
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bgould
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rentals are expensive and a pain in the ass. if you are committed to skiing i would recommend buying equipment right away
Feb 2 2011 9:27PM
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NyJibber09
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What would you recommend for my skill level and my intentions??? I plan on going from skiing and snowboarding and once I get down the fundamentals I will be in the park a lot.

6'0
188 lbs
Beginner
Upstate New York
Feb 2 2011 9:31PM
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NyJibber09
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Also is it like with a Snowboard if you're planning on riding park should I get a smaller ski??? I am 188 lbs 6'0 so I assumed the right ski size would be 177. Is this right if not would size should I be looking for ?

Feb 2 2011 10:10PM
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Heart
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To answer your original question, either rent, or if you know skiing is what you want, buy a pair of skis. A pair of cheap directional skis at a ski swap would make a good beginner choice. Skiing with a park oriented ski makes turning a bit more difficult at slow speeds, which will make learning a little tougher.

As for park skiing, generally the ski should be about as tall as you are for park, much longer than a directional single tip ski would be for your height. A good directional length is between your chin and nose.
Feb 2 2011 10:16PM
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NyJibber09
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Thank you peter1234930. I think what I am going to do is try this place by my house call Play It Again sports, kind of a used sports store see if I can't find my self a pair to learn on. The only reason I am thinking mainly a park ski is because I know now when I go snowboarding my friends ans I always end up in the park for a couple of hours. Thanks again
Feb 2 2011 10:30PM
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bgould
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i just made the change a couple months ago and i ride a 182 at 6'1'' 200lbs so 177 would be fine for you. i would recommend if you are going to be spending the majority of your time in the park to pick up a pair of park specific skis. i got some bluehouse antics for 250 with taxes and shipping. i ski on a small east cost hill and it will only take a day or two before you will get the fundamentals down. remember that ski boots fit completely different than snowboard boots so you should go to a bootfitter. ski boots pack out a lot so at the store the should feel tight. congradulations on starting skiing i also started 3 months ago and will never go back to snowboarding
Feb 3 2011 12:16AM
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NyJibber09
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Lol.. Idk about never going back to boarding but deff going to try and finish up this season and start next season on ski's. I wasn't too sure on the whole boot thing until I read the sticky on how to fit for boots. Another big thing that I don't really know on is bindings but I'm sure I can find info on them on NS. Is it harder to ride slope if you're rocking a pair of freestyles?
Feb 3 2011 9:59AM
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_GaPeRstEEzE
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The only thing for you to buy atm are some ski lessons.

Come on how can you guys tell someone who never skied before to get some expensive freestyle ski's right away?
Just get buy some cheap ex-rental ski's , learn to charge groomers, learn to take sum jumps on ski's and eventually buy some real freestyle ski's. You can't go to the park when you're just starting out with skiing, it will be a complete failure.
Besides you never skied before maybe you don't like it who knows.


Feb 3 2011 11:33AM
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tall_t
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try to get your hands on some cheap skis to lkearn on. then get the line  chronics
Feb 3 2011 12:12PM
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NyJibber09
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I'm going to try a place by my house tomorrow that sells used stuff. See if I can't pick up a pair of used ones
Feb 3 2011 10:22PM
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NyJibber09
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So I went to the Ski stores by my house and asked the guys for some help.....

Store 1: The man that helped me out was older and told me that if I am looking for an all mt/ park ski I should go with this setup:

Ski: Line Prophet 90
Binding: Griffons
Boot: Salomon Kaos

He told me that the Line Masterminds are for kids not for me like me. ( I am only 19yrs old). The reasoning behind him telling me to get the Prophets is they have a wider base so If I want to go All Mt. with them this will allow for a better ride. Also the Griffons he said have a wider front for better Response.

Store 2: The guy there was a little younger and kinda understood I was looking for a Park primary and All Mt. Secondary. He recommended this setup.

Ski: Line Chronic Cryptonite 173
Binding; Salomon Z12
Boot: Dalbello Voodoo

His reasoning was Cryptonit offers more flexibility and pop. But will also let me take the ski's to the slope. Boots he said were nice and flexible yet responsive and supportive. And didn't really give any reasoning behind the Binding other than all his employees ride them and love them.

I was thinking of this.


Ski: Chronic Cryptonite 173
Binding: Griffons
Boot: Salomon Kaos.


Anyone have any thoughts on this and whether or not this is a good setup?
Feb 4 2011 1:41PM
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Balto
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1. dont get prophets, they are in no way a park ski
2. dont get z12s, pick up some look px12s online for $100
3. get fitted for boots, spend as long as possible trying on different boots and wearing them around the shop, boots are the most important part of ski gear you will own, dont let anyone recomend you a boot until you find one that fits you best, and remember, the boot will contract and stiffen up a bit out in the cold
Feb 4 2011 1:52PM
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NyJibber09
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Looking at the px 12's how does sizing work for bindings? It says M L Or XL.... Is this based off of boot size?
Feb 4 2011 2:03PM
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Balto
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the sizing is referring to break width(the little metal arms that stick down into the snow if you are not clicked into the binding), medium should be fine for most park skis, but if they are a bit too narrow, the shop who mounts the skis can easily bend them out a bit
Feb 4 2011 2:06PM
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NyJibber09
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alright thanks for you're help. I can find them for only $100??? I have been searching around the internet seems like there around 250
Feb 4 2011 2:09PM
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Balto
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http://www.geartrade.com/item/178397
Feb 4 2011 2:25PM
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EL_TIGRE
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sold out......?
Feb 4 2011 4:31PM
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.jersey
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In my opinion, get rentals for a couple times and take some lessons. It's better for you to learn the fundamentals of basic skiing before you start doing jumps and boxes because chances are you'll hurt yourself. Then if you have the money, invest of a pair of skis. Or buy a used pair for cheap and if you like skiing enough that you want to do it next season buy a new pair over the summer so it'll be a little cheaper
Feb 4 2011 4:53PM
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NyJibber09
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That's actually what I'm doing. When I went to the shops today I got a pair of rentals, and I have a bunch of friends who ski so i will be going with them these skii's are going to be bought at the end of the season
Feb 4 2011 7:51PM
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.jersey
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yeah good idea. When it comes to boots though, if you buy them dont cheap out
Feb 4 2011 11:19PM
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powerslide
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Like a lot of guys said: pay lots of attention to the boot. You can ride a bad ski with good boots, but not a good ski with bad boots - if the boot fits the rest comes along nicely.
Feb 5 2011 8:36AM
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NyJibber09
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I deff will. I haven't tried on many yet only the pair that I got for rentals. But I have read up a lot on boot fitting so I will be paying a lot of attention.
Feb 5 2011 7:48PM
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