I have a pair definitely get them mounted back a bit, the taper tips are sweet and they are plenty wide for pow. When I first got em they were pretty stiff, but they softened up eventually. Glad I got 181, mostly just screw around in pow, small cliffs and trees. If going for more high speed super fast steep pow lines go for 191. Other than that top sheets hold out super well, and real nice bases. All around super fun ski, just wish they had rocker, rocker makes everything better.